[Official] Nanoblock Thread

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This is a way to save shipping cost which in the case I assume it's the transportation part from supplier > seller (nothing the buyer needs to bear, duh). Resellers sometimes will reduce shipping fee (in volumetric weight) by flattening box and separate content. However, this situation is always ethically mentioned in any sales/deal because they are not longer in its original packaging.

Scenario: Supplier flattened boxes and removed contents to ship to reseller. Reseller repackaged everything back together with scotch tape. (In this case boxes may suffered damage)

Scotch tape cut to double check contents, but what did he meant when he meant transportation when the box is intact?

Unless seller can keep them like original conditions, with original seals/perfect box, then no one would know it's transported that way (or even opened in the first place). This case obviously doesn't seem to be the case since seller has already mentioned it's opened and transported, and even cut -.-....

The seal is fool-proof, an owl even knows the box is opened even you tried resealing back.

Trying to sell as BNIB is really deceiving the buyer. PUrePLS might not be the first victim of this scam.


Honestly for me (or most collectors I know), even when tapes lose their stickiness, it's still supposed to remained as it is. It's generally a proof that it's "Brand New"..

Shop keepers who are ignorant in using scotch tapes are to bear the degradation cost themselves, not the buyer. When we are in store, it's only up to us to see/look the conditions before buying. That's willing seller, willing buyer. But for online selling, it's a case of seller trying to mislead a buyer when it's mentioned as "Brand New" yet it's cut/repacked/open/resealed (with no mention in sale description) and refusing to refund when found out. It's definitely not a "willing buyer" anymore, though looking like a "really willing seller".

I spoken to another fellow Nanoblock collector who mentioned that this "scotch tape" issue might just be an...I-have-no-idea-about-it. However, this is no only-1-nanoblock-item seller, this is a specialized Nanoblock seller. There's no reason for ignorance that this item is not in its original packaging and seal.

Like as though it's all the buyer fault that the box was damaged during repackaging...or that the seal is no longer original. :eek:

I'm still thinking whether the seal falling off can be highlighted to Kawada so the team will take note of it....

If the box seals fall off in a room and no one is around to see them, does it still retain the market value?
 

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Ohmy, just when I thought maybe I'm the only "suay" one since they were trustable. The box was torn in what ways? I understand if there're dents if mailed in envelope but....torns?

No bubble wrap, I assume...You give the carton a good toss down the hill, you surely get dents.
 

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Well, you could have demanded an explanation or refund as the seller has misled you. If you posted your story, maybe the collectors would be more cautious by now.:s22::s22:

hmmm... i guess it's my fault too that i assumed every on9 collectables sellers r careful w their stock:s22::s13::s8: if u c their site, e pics of the rila look fine...so yar...

i didnt request specifically to check on the condition of the items, merely asking them to check for defects and to bubble wrapped. to me, the box dents n tears would count as defects, but apparently not to seller, since no mention of them in their email.

so when received the items after 1wk+, they took 5days to mail out my items:s8:, super busy w work n all, really cant be bothered to write complain email to follow up, just LLST:s13:

besides, i did ask whether they can be trusted, and a few bros here said ok de, so i went ahead n ordered :s13:

oh well. my 2c.

correction: e bro that i pmed didnt get his rila v1 from SN.
 

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Ohmy, just when I thought maybe I'm the only "suay" one since they were trustable. The box was torn in what ways? I understand if there're dents if mailed in envelope but....torns?

all 6 surfaces of the box have dents :s13::s22: and yar, my box got those dirty scotch tapes at both opening ends.

at the top left corner of the back, there is a ~2cm torn.

given the age of the pdt, i wasnt expecting those tip-top mint condition, but when i received the item, i was appalled at the extent of the condition the box was in. looks more like 2nd/3rd-hand item then bnib :s13:

at e end of the day, just consoled myself that at least i got the v1 rila that i hv been looking high n low for, albeit the chop-carrot price.
 

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Try Eslite, they have quite a collection of Nanoblock.

2nd place which I recently found, but I have to say first..
I've never been there so I am not sure whether it's good, or can be easily located. But from the prices I read from their posts, all are quite decent. :)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nanoblock-Taipei-金萬年-微型積木專賣店/547278958638401?fref=ts

I went to the second place before I got interested in nanoblocks. It's a whole building full of model kits and collectibles. You should pay there a visit if you like toys(incl nanoblocks of course).
 

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I'm still thinking whether the seal falling off can be highlighted to Kawada so the team will take note of it....

If the box seals fall off in a room and no one is around to see them, does it still retain the market value?

In Lego world, fallen off seals can be very subjective. But because Lego seals don't usually fall off, so it becomes a willing seller willing buyer situation.. And they are more than often flaps even glued, so..haha. But that's Lego....

In Nanoblock, I personally rather have the seal fallen off and leave it as it is then having a scotch tape on them. I was quite...annoyed when TBS has price tag directly on them, and their price tag stickers are.......not even easy to peel off. My Rilas are from them, super heart pain when I have to peel off the price tags and leave stains on them.

Right now my issue with the seal is only because box condition is not good, and there are a lot of doubts on whether the box is even properly handled. If the box condition is in tiptop shiny condition, I can't really be bothered if it's sealed or not. Given the fact that I will cut the seal anyway, but I would definitely still not damage the box as much as I can. But that's on me after receiving the item, not before.


hmmm... i guess it's my fault too that i assumed every on9 collectables sellers r careful w their stock:s22::s13::s8: if u c their site, e pics of the rila look fine...so yar...

i didnt request specifically to check on the condition of the items, merely asking them to check for defects and to bubble wrapped. to me, the box dents n tears would count as defects, but apparently not to seller, since no mention of them in their email.

so when received the items after 1wk+, they took 5days to mail out my items:s8:, super busy w work n all, really cant be bothered to write complain email to follow up, just LLST:s13:

besides, i did ask whether they can be trusted, and a few bros here said ok de, so i went ahead n ordered :s13:

oh well. my 2c.

at e end of the day, just consoled myself that at least i got the v1 rila that i hv been looking high n low for, albeit the chop-carrot price.

Pats.. I was highly surprised by this situation as well, given the fact I did quite some recommendations for them. Now I too know what to "recommend" next time....

At least now...we know. And looking at the fact this is not an isolated issue...we know even better. From the replies we got, I have to just believe that...someone actually doesn't even care about our peanut sales. So much for "real hobbyist" no?

Aside.. Take it.. Build it...then give it to your friend in a display case! :o
 

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I went to the second place before I got interested in nanoblocks. It's a whole building full of model kits and collectibles. You should pay there a visit if you like toys(incl nanoblocks of course).

If...only I get a chance to go to Taiwan!!
I would probably spend like water there HAHA..
 

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If...only I get a chance to go to Taiwan!!
I would probably spend like water there HAHA..

HAHA. The shops there totally look like those on the top level of plaza singapura. The only difference? Theirs isn't just that few. It's floors!
 

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In Nanoblock, I personally rather have the seal fallen off and leave it as it is then having a scotch tape on them. I was quite...annoyed when TBS has price tag directly on them, and their price tag stickers are.......not even easy to peel off. My Rilas are from them, super heart pain when I have to peel off the price tags and leave stains on them.

Right now my issue with the seal is only because box condition is not good, and there are a lot of doubts on whether the box is even properly handled. If the box condition is in tiptop shiny condition, I can't really be bothered if it's sealed or not. Given the fact that I will cut the seal anyway, but I would definitely still not damage the box as much as I can. But that's on me after receiving the item, not before.

At least now...we know. And looking at the fact this is not an isolated issue...we know even better. From the replies we got, I have to just believe that...someone actually doesn't even care about our peanut sales. So much for "real hobbyist" no?

Aside.. Take it.. Build it...then give it to your friend in a display case! :o

The TBS tags are indeed annoying especially on boxes. Got the guys there to take out for me and they used a lighter 😱 ended up "overburn" and abit turned black. Oh well better than sticky residue. The best tags come from kinokuniya. Till now 100% success without damaging anything.

As for my case for the rila blocks, I'm gonna see how the seller is going to deal with it. If he insist on getting them back to me, I may consider to engage CASE in this since this is a clear case of an unsatisfactory product. In the meantime, shall wait and see what's his decision.
 

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The TBS tags are indeed annoying especially on boxes. Got the guys there to take out for me and they used a lighter 😱 ended up "overburn" and abit turned black. Oh well better than sticky residue. The best tags come from kinokuniya. Till now 100% success without damaging anything.

As for my case for the rila blocks, I'm gonna see how the seller is going to deal with it. If he insist on getting them back to me, I may consider to engage CASE in this since this is a clear case of an unsatisfactory product. In the meantime, shall wait and see what's his decision.

eh chill la bro.
this kinda thing...don't escalate till like that la.
I understand it's probably the principle behind it and not the $$
 

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eh chill la bro.
this kinda thing...don't escalate till like that la.
I understand it's probably the principle behind it and not the $$

Good that you understand. The thing now is they still think that their items are in brand new condition when we all already have eyes to see their definition of new. I don't know how busy they are but I think the least they can do now is to reply here so as to clarify the doubts. If they really care that much, I bet they would've replied here long ago when others are questioning their ethics.

And If they were to soften their approach on their sales, I think I won't even bother feedbacking them here and just let it go.
 

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Good that you understand. The thing now is they still think that their items are in brand new condition when we all already have eyes to see their definition of new. I don't know how busy they are but I think the least they can do now is to reply here so as to clarify the doubts. If they really care that much, I bet they would've replied here long ago when others are questioning their ethics.

And If they were to soften their approach on their sales, I think I won't even bother feedbacking them here and just let it go.


CASE ah.... You still have to be its member and pay a goddamn fee to get any **** going. The website is rather ****. Still a long way to go before consumer rights can match with Australia.

We better pray no stupid media will pick this one.
 

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Good that you understand. The thing now is they still think that their items are in brand new condition when we all already have eyes to see their definition of new. I don't know how busy they are but I think the least they can do now is to reply here so as to clarify the doubts. If they really care that much, I bet they would've replied here long ago when others are questioning their ethics.

And If they were to soften their approach on their sales, I think I won't even bother feedbacking them here and just let it go.

I think just to clarify to everyone else...I believe shearerleong is from simply.nano.
(I think some people are still blur)

aiyah...not everyone so free to surf edmw every minute la..cut them some slack la...it's the weekend. :s13:

I agree with you, it's definitely not brand new, provided we are looking at it from a COLLECTOR'S POV. But from a MERCHANT's POV, so long as they did not open it to use it, it's considered brand new. Some BUYERS are fine with that...because they aren't collectors.

You did mention that they are hard ball about this, but perhaps look at it on their end, you were also hard ball about it. (I can understand this...I was hardball with AmiAmi...end up they lose a customer...I lose a source to buy nanoblocks lol)


Treat it as you suay, and don't buy from them again. Not worth the hassle. And unfortunately for them, word of mouth is a powerful tool.

I personally have never purchased from them, but I have recommended them as one of the sources to purchase simply due to their stocking up. (unfortunately)

I personally don't think they are trying to push the blame, just a matter of perspective of the term "brand new". For all we know, the stock could have bought it from a shop that re-packaged it in JP (which explains the taping)

As I said, I would encourage simply.nano to accord a discount for the item.
 

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Pats.. I was highly surprised by this situation as well, given the fact I did quite some recommendations for them. Now I too know what to "recommend" next time....

At least now...we know. And looking at the fact this is not an isolated issue...we know even better. From the replies we got, I have to just believe that...someone actually doesn't even care about our peanut sales. So much for "real hobbyist" no?

Aside.. Take it.. Build it...then give it to your friend in a display case! :o

yeah man. i m appalled by their replies to Pure too. at the price they are selling, one definitely has high definitions on the items, no?

or maybe cos i ocd, esp on stuff meant as collection :s22::s13:

The TBS tags are indeed annoying especially on boxes. Got the guys there to take out for me and they used a lighter 😱 ended up "overburn" and abit turned black. Oh well better than sticky residue. The best tags come from kinokuniya. Till now 100% success without damaging anything.

As for my case for the rila blocks, I'm gonna see how the seller is going to deal with it. If he insist on getting them back to me, I may consider to engage CASE in this since this is a clear case of an unsatisfactory product. In the meantime, shall wait and see what's his decision.

kino's tags used to be an horror. haha. till they changed to this current one that is super easy to peel off. iirc, the most horrible is their that small blue price tags, like those u c in provision shops. then they changed to those big squares with barcode, but still difficult to peel off. and finally to the current one:s12: used to avoid buying books from them b4 that, cos of the price tag issue. haha. ocd :s8:

I think just to clarify to everyone else...I believe shearerleong is from simply.nano.
(I think some people are still blur)

aiyah...not everyone so free to surf edmw every minute la..cut them some slack la...it's the weekend. :s13:

I agree with you, it's definitely not brand new, provided we are looking at it from a COLLECTOR'S POV. But from a MERCHANT's POV, so long as they did not open it to use it, it's considered brand new. Some BUYERS are fine with that...because they aren't collectors.

You did mention that they are hard ball about this, but perhaps look at it on their end, you were also hard ball about it. (I can understand this...I was hardball with AmiAmi...end up they lose a customer...I lose a source to buy nanoblocks lol)


Treat it as you suay, and don't buy from them again. Not worth the hassle. And unfortunately for them, word of mouth is a powerful tool.

I personally have never purchased from them, but I have recommended them as one of the sources to purchase simply due to their stocking up. (unfortunately)

I personally don't think they are trying to push the blame, just a matter of perspective of the term "brand new". For all we know, the stock could have bought it from a shop that re-packaged it in JP (which explains the taping)

As I said, I would encourage simply.nano to accord a discount for the item.

i guess not every on9 sellers realise that cust svc is very impt nowadays, esp for on9 biz. with more than 1 shop selling exact same thing, maybe with slightly different price, more often than not, i rather pay more to deal with one with better svc and attitude ;)
 

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I think just to clarify to everyone else...I believe shearerleong is from simply.nano.
(I think some people are still blur)

aiyah...not everyone so free to surf edmw every minute la..cut them some slack la...it's the weekend. :s13:

I agree with you, it's definitely not brand new, provided we are looking at it from a COLLECTOR'S POV. But from a MERCHANT's POV, so long as they did not open it to use it, it's considered brand new. Some BUYERS are fine with that...because they aren't collectors.

You did mention that they are hard ball about this, but perhaps look at it on their end, you were also hard ball about it. (I can understand this...I was hardball with AmiAmi...end up they lose a customer...I lose a source to buy nanoblocks lol)


Treat it as you suay, and don't buy from them again. Not worth the hassle. And unfortunately for them, word of mouth is a powerful tool.

I personally have never purchased from them, but I have recommended them as one of the sources to purchase simply due to their stocking up. (unfortunately)

I personally don't think they are trying to push the blame, just a matter of perspective of the term "brand new". For all we know, the stock could have bought it from a shop that re-packaged it in JP (which explains the taping)

As I said, I would encourage simply.nano to accord a discount for the item.

I understand and won't be that extreme with it if I'm having the blocks for my own collection. But since I'm having them for gifts, at least for me, I will never give such items in such conditions to my friends. Will see if they reply here, or else I'm going to email them.

yeah man. i m appalled by their replies to Pure too. at the price they are selling, one definitely has high definitions on the items, no?

or maybe cos i ocd, esp on stuff meant as collection :s22::s13:

kino's tags used to be an horror. haha. till they changed to this current one that is super easy to peel off. iirc, the most horrible is their that small blue price tags, like those u c in provision shops. then they changed to those big squares with barcode, but still difficult to peel off. and finally to the current one:s12: used to avoid buying books from them b4 that, cos of the price tag issue. haha. ocd :s8:


i guess not every on9 sellers realise that cust svc is very impt nowadays, esp for on9 biz. with more than 1 shop selling exact same thing, maybe with slightly different price, more often than not, i rather pay more to deal with one with better svc and attitude ;)

I wasn't expecting it to be of the same high standards as kino(they actually extra wrapped some of their more ex collections). But the tapes are the killer. And, I'm OCD too :s22: Of course, stocks aside, the good thing about simplynano is their efficiency in emails. Perhaps if they're not gonna to reply here, I'm going to email them.

Really? Luckily I started collecting only when kino changed to this kind of tag. :s13:

CASE ah.... You still have to be its member and pay a goddamn fee to get any **** going. The website is rather ****. Still a long way to go before consumer rights can match with Australia.

We better pray no stupid media will pick this one.

CASE is really the final of the final of the final...resort already. Dont want to go that extreme also.
 
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