[Official] Playstation 5

[Deathshadow]

Someone dug out something about PS5 Boóst mode for PS4 games, so could be enabling of fast load with PS5 SSD, upscale of games to 1440p/4K and/or 60fps constant framerate etc.

Looks exciting indeed.

Hopefully PS5 can match Series X performance for backwards compatibility.

Digital Foundry did some test. Xbox One games which offers either Resolution/Performance Mode. When choosing 4K Resolution Mode on Series X, it's framerate is automatically bump to 60fps without any patches (with very minor drops). Games tested include Sekiro: SDT, Final Fantasy XV, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Hitman, Monster Hunter World, COD: MW, No Man's Sky, Dead or Alive 6.

All running at 4K 60fps.

 

[Deathshadow]

Tempted to buy sackboy now just because the special edition got a cute plushie

Special Edition only for PS4 (Though the game have free upgrade from PS4 disc to PS5 digital version).

 

[XseanX]

Awfully quiet on the PS5 side, with launch in just a few weeks time.

I wonder could it be the Bethesa buyout, not because of Elder's Scroll or Doom possibility of exclusivity but because now they're MS owned meaning the PS5 development hardware and tools and technical details are now all available to MS.

Nah, just that not much exciting news now expect to wait for the console and games to come out on Nov. Anyway, cant really control the buyout tactic etc., but if want to cover all exclusives, then own a gaming PC to cover for MS games, PS5 and switch for consoles.

Tempted to buy sackboy now just because the special edition got a cute plushie

Look nice, where can pre-order this special edition?

 

[Radecx]

Awfully quiet on the PS5 side, with launch in just a few weeks time.

I wonder could it be the Bethesa buyout, not because of Elder's Scroll or Doom possibility of exclusivity but because now they're MS owned meaning the PS5 development hardware and tools and technical details are now all available to MS.

In other words MS could be paying 7.5 billion just to get the PS5 interal docs and dev kits which obviously already at the hands of the developers before the buyout as a way to fight in the new generation, free exclusives are an added bonus. Now they basically know what are the exact pros and cons of the PS5, what it can do or cannot do. It's obviously underhanded, but money makes the world go around.

Sony probably deciding what they're gonna do now, forfeit the games from now MS-owned studios?

I think the best course of action for Sony is to have a close exclusive partnership with all other Japanese companies. MS is a western company so they buying up Western game studios is not out of the ordinary, and Japanese companies should likewise counter that by doing something similar. No money to buyout but still can have close collaboration.

Having MS dominate the video game industry is NOT beneficial to the world. They're already a monopoly in the PC OS and business software, it will be very bad for gamers if they buyout the console game industry too.

The anti-competitive law in US specifically prevents such buyouts so lets hope the US government can look into this. I hate to see my gaming hobby for past 35 years being destroyed by MS.

What? It doesn't matter if MS have ps5 devkits lol.

Both systems will produce great looking games.

Sony will be fine

 

[Recce5]

Hopefully PS5 can match Series X performance for backwards compatibility.

Digital Foundry did some test. Xbox One games which offers either Resolution/Performance Mode. When choosing 4K Resolution Mode on Series X, it's framerate is automatically bump to 60fps without any patches (with very minor drops). Games tested include Sekiro: SDT, Final Fantasy XV, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Hitman, Monster Hunter World, COD: MW, No Man's Sky, Dead or Alive 6.

All running at 4K 60fps.

Should work the same way.

The PS5's high throughput bandwidth for storage basically allows the SSD to be as fast as accessing from RAM, making it act like an expanded RAM memory.

 

[Recce5]

What? It doesn't matter if MS have ps5 devkits lol.

Both systems will produce great looking games.

Sony will be fine

Just throwing out possible reasons for the buyout. Also, rumor has it that MS is still looking to buy even more studios.

As the saying goes, if you can't beat them, buy them out! In this case buy out all 3rd party studios so no 3rd party left to develop for your competitor.

 

[Deathshadow]

Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/30/marvels-spider-man-remastered-detailed/

PS5 vs PS4 screenshot comparison

 

[d5dude]

Hopefully PS5 can match Series X performance for backwards compatibility.

Digital Foundry did some test. Xbox One games which offers either Resolution/Performance Mode. When choosing 4K Resolution Mode on Series X, it's framerate is automatically bump to 60fps without any patches (with very minor drops). Games tested include Sekiro: SDT, Final Fantasy XV, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Hitman, Monster Hunter World, COD: MW, No Man's Sky, Dead or Alive 6.

All running at 4K 60fps.

Sekiro cannot hold 60fps at 4k, I think hitman also cannot hold 60.

Even PC master race got difficulty doing 4k/60 at high settings for some titles, I knew 4k/60 was always going to be a pipe dream for next gen console.

 

[Deathshadow]

Sekiro cannot hold 60fps at 4k, I think hitman also cannot hold 60.

Even PC master race got difficulty doing 4k/60 at high settings for some titles, I knew 4k/60 was always going to be a pipe dream for next gen console.

These current/cross-gen titles have been confirmed to run at 4K 60fps on PS5/Series X.

Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Borderlands 3, COD: BO Cold War, Rainbow Six Siege, Observer: System Redux, Dead by Daylight, Destiny 2, Dirt 5, Maneater.

 

[Elysium87]

Cannot deny MS's xbox game pass' value proposition is more compelling now with the acquisition of bethesda. With their cloud gaming platform, you can game on any device.

yes xbox game pass is good but also not that godly. they rotate their games on pass, how fast/often can you play games to clear? by the time u wanna play yr favourite game, it may be taken off from the pass, some games also cant play full on pass like fifa 21.

cloud gaming for singapore will still be quite a while as there's no access yet.

PS do have similar with game pass but i dont know why they are not promoting towards more country and big on this. i guess is because they wan console sales

 

[charleslin]

Awfully quiet on the PS5 side, with launch in just a few weeks time.

I wonder could it be the Bethesa buyout, not because of Elder's Scroll or Doom possibility of exclusivity but because now they're MS owned meaning the PS5 development hardware and tools and technical details are now all available to MS.

In other words MS could be paying 7.5 billion just to get the PS5 interal docs and dev kits which obviously already at the hands of the developers before the buyout as a way to fight in the new generation, free exclusives are an added bonus. Now they basically know what are the exact pros and cons of the PS5, what it can do or cannot do. It's obviously underhanded, but money makes the world go around.

Sony probably deciding what they're gonna do now, forfeit the games from now MS-owned studios?

I think the best course of action for Sony is to have a close exclusive partnership with all other Japanese companies. MS is a western company so they buying up Western game studios is not out of the ordinary, and Japanese companies should likewise counter that by doing something similar. No money to buyout but still can have close collaboration.

Having MS dominate the video game industry is NOT beneficial to the world. They're already a monopoly in the PC OS and business software, it will be very bad for gamers if they buyout the console game industry too.

The anti-competitive law in US specifically prevents such buyouts so lets hope the US government can look into this. I hate to see my gaming hobby for past 35 years being destroyed by MS.

Bethesda isn't even a PlayStation exclusive studio, the tools they work with, are tools ANY of Microsoft owned studios can have access to.

I personally doubt they are going to force them to be XBOX Exclusive, but more likely to buy up big studios, and add them to Game Pass service.

Imagine a future where PS owners also can subscribe to Game Pass due to Microsoft's huge library and nego power. Microsoft can chill on console hardware war then, as Microsoft is pushing for services AROUND gaming, rather than Sony's direction on the gaming hardware itself.

And unlikely for Microsoft to fully dominate console itself as well, as Sony's brand loyalty and global reach is still stronger. MS has bad local support for non North America and selected Europe zones.

 

[Trueblue82]

Spoiler

Awfully quiet on the PS5 side, with launch in just a few weeks time.

I wonder could it be the Bethesa buyout, not because of Elder's Scroll or Doom possibility of exclusivity but because now they're MS owned meaning the PS5 development hardware and tools and technical details are now all available to MS.

In other words MS could be paying 7.5 billion just to get the PS5 interal docs and dev kits which obviously already at the hands of the developers before the buyout as a way to fight in the new generation, free exclusives are an added bonus. Now they basically know what are the exact pros and cons of the PS5, what it can do or cannot do. It's obviously underhanded, but money makes the world go around.

Spoiler

Sony probably deciding what they're gonna do now, forfeit the games from now MS-owned studios?

I think the best course of action for Sony is to have a close exclusive partnership with all other Japanese companies. MS is a western company so they buying up Western game studios is not out of the ordinary, and Japanese companies should likewise counter that by doing something similar. No money to buyout but still can have close collaboration.

Having MS dominate the video game industry is NOT beneficial to the world. They're already a monopoly in the PC OS and business software, it will be very bad for gamers if they buyout the console game industry too.

The anti-competitive law in US specifically prevents such buyouts so lets hope the US government can look into this. I hate to see my gaming hobby for past 35 years being destroyed by MS.

Need meh..Microsoft can just buy a ps5 themselves and reverse engineer it.....

Got so conspiracy theory ah...


And basically PS5 is just an upgrade to PS4....not much of an innovation in it, looks like they are also marketing it as an upgrade for ps4 with so many ps4/ps5 compatible games.

 

[d5dude]

These current/cross-gen titles have been confirmed to run at 4K 60fps on PS5/Series X.

Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Borderlands 3, COD: BO Cold War, Rainbow Six Siege, Observer: System Redux, Dead by Daylight, Destiny 2, Dirt 5, Maneater.

According to DF, some games have trouble holding 60. Targeting 60 is not the same thing as 60 locked.

 

[MakiMaki]

Bethesda isn't even a PlayStation exclusive studio, the tools they work with, are tools ANY of Microsoft owned studios can have access to.

I personally doubt they are going to force them to be XBOX Exclusive, but more likely to buy up big studios, and add them to Game Pass service.

Imagine a future where PS owners also can subscribe to Game Pass due to Microsoft's huge library and nego power. Microsoft can chill on console hardware war then, as Microsoft is pushing for services AROUND gaming, rather than Sony's direction on the gaming hardware itself.

And unlikely for Microsoft to fully dominate console itself as well, as Sony's brand loyalty and global reach is still stronger. MS has bad local support for non North America and selected Europe zones.

Actually is there really any "XBOX Exclusive" being announced? Most if not all the games announced for Xbox can be played on PC through Microsoft store/ Game pass. The fact that Xbox Series X is being sold out everywhere, including SG makes me wonder what exactly am i missing out from not buying an Xbox Series X? Unlike PS5's exclusives that can only be played on PS5, all the "Xbox exclusives" will be playable on our PCs too correct? Hope to have clarification/advice on this, thanks.

 

[d5dude]

Actually is there really any "XBOX Exclusive" being announced? Most if not all the games announced for Xbox can be played on PC through Microsoft store/ Game pass. The fact that Xbox Series X is being sold out everywhere, including SG makes me wonder what exactly am i missing out from not buying an Xbox Series X? Unlike PS5's exclusives that can only be played on PS5, all the "Xbox exclusives" will be playable on our PCs too correct? Hope to have clarification/advice on this, thanks.

Series x is cheaper than PC of comparable specs.

 

[MakiMaki]

Series x is cheaper than PC of comparable specs.

Ok, then it confirms that if we already have a gaming PC where we can play all the exclusives Xbox has. Thanks for confirming as Xbox Series X sales' were so good i started to doubt if there's something that an Xbox Series X has which a PC doesn't. Thanks!

 

[Deathshadow]

According to DF, some games have trouble holding 60. Targeting 60 is not the same thing as 60 locked.

Most games have difficulty running at 4K 60fps, especially visually impressive games prioritizing graphics.

But that doesn't mean PS5/Series X is not capable of 4K 60fps. Both hardware can do it. All depends on the developer's choice & the game they're making.

Some games having difficulty with locked 60fps is expected without optimization/patch. However that doesn't mean no game is capable of 4K 60fps on PS5/Series X hardware.

According to DF, they haven't even test the games I listed: Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Borderlands 3, COD: BO Cold War, Rainbow Six Siege, Observer: System Redux, Dead by Daylight, Destiny 2, Dirt 5, Maneater. These games have been confirmed to run at 4K 60fps by the developers themselves. The people behind creating the games. Comparing a public statement from the developers vs an opinion of a unknown random person on a forum, it's obvious which one holds more weight & is more valid.

At least wait for DF videos in November, before immediately jumping to conclusion that PS5/Series X can't run the above-listed optimized titles at native 4K, locked 60fps.

 

[Elysium87]

Ok, then it confirms that if we already have a gaming PC where we can play all the exclusives Xbox has. Thanks for confirming as Xbox Series X sales' were so good i started to doubt if there's something that an Xbox Series X has which a PC doesn't. Thanks!

yea, if u get game pass, u can play on pc instead of xbox. xbox focus is on their game pass, not console mainly. is only ang moh more intersted in xbox.

but there are some games like fifa where u can only play 10 hours on game pass, have to purchase the game instead.

 

[Deathshadow]

As for Ray Tracing, it is very taxing. Not even the 2080ti can run it and maintain 60fps. What was the expectation here?

 

[Deathshadow]

Some people have a crazy misconception & unrealistic expectations about what consoles are capable of.

The PS5/Series X is powerful and its crazy good for the money but that doesn’t nullify the fact that it is essentially a standardised PC in a box.

Just because you whack a Sony/Microsoft logo on it doesn’t make it magically capable of things that even several thousand dollar PCs can’t do.