[Official] Playstation 5

[Adam80]

1) There is a game pass $1 trick where you can convert XBL gold 36 month to game pass ultimate time.

2) yes applies to Xbox and PC

the trick dont work anymore

Spoiler

After you join Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, you can continue to redeem Xbox Live Gold and Xbox Game Pass codes. These codes will automatically convert to Xbox Game Pass Ultimate based on the following conversion table. Conversion ratio subject to change.

24 months of Gold

8 months of Ultimate

 

[shadowex]

What is more likely is probably employees helping their friends to reserve a set

I think this is okay. As long as employees/friends are not locking up all the stocks to sell. That one too much alr.

 

[xtwis7]

Xbox just announced the price of their proprietary expendable storage. 1tb for $230 usd isn’t really cheap and the fact that you must buy from Microsoft means they’re going down that path of not giving their gamers any options of buying third party.

 

[Nitrile]

Xbox just announced the price of their proprietary expendable storage. 1tb for $230 usd isn’t really cheap and the fact that you must buy from Microsoft means they’re going down that path of not giving their gamers any options of buying third party.

The technology is still inherently expensive.

The consoles themselves are also already subsidized.

PCIE 4.0 1TB SSDs run around US$200 for 1 TB now still.

 

[evildoer]

Heard from my friend .. Ps4 game play via ps5 backward compatibility do not have speed loading .. will be just as slow as Ps4

 

[Hailgod]

Heard from my friend .. Ps4 game play via ps5 backward compatibility do not have speed loading .. will be just as slow as Ps4

ssd will always load faster than hdd. its just the seamless loading things that ps5 have wont work.

 

[Recce5]

Heard from my friend .. Ps4 game play via ps5 backward compatibility do not have speed loading .. will be just as slow as Ps4

Even though it may not have PS5 instant loading feature, it will still be several times faster than loading on PS4, unless Sony specifically crippled it to be just as slow for 100% backward compatibility.

We'll have to wait and see.

 

[evildoer]

ssd will always load faster than hdd. its just the seamless loading things that ps5 have wont work.

Is there a different if u change ur hdd on your ps4 to ssd ?

 

[evildoer]

Some of the recent game do not have the reason to load so long in Ps4 .. I was playing captain tsubasa .. take 20 sec just to load a match

Even ghost of Tsushima do not load that long

 

[velcry]

Heard from my friend .. Ps4 game play via ps5 backward compatibility do not have speed loading .. will be just as slow as Ps4

My friend explained it to me this way:

Imagine you have to ride a bike to go to work/school. You identify a certain route, and every day you take your bike on that same route.

One day, you upgrade to helicopter. If you take the same route, it will be faster, but only to a certain point because you are still flying the same route just that you are now in the air. If only you changed your route completely to take advantage of the helicopter's capabilities.

PS4 = bike
Old route = software code for PS4 game
PS5 = helicopter
New route = new software code for PS5 games

 

[final1]

In my honest opinion, don't buy the PS5 at launch. And by God, that PS5 is huge and rather unsightly.

There will be a PS5 slim and then a PS5 Pro.

The 10 teraflops the PS5 can do is really not that powerful and will need to be upgraded in the future for sure. The PS4 Pro is 4 teraflops+.

And, from the launch games i have seen so far, nothing stands out as "oh this could not have been done on a PS4 Pro".

By the way, the latest nvidia graphics cards are now up to 30 teraflops already.

 

[Humster]

Heard from my friend .. Ps4 game play via ps5 backward compatibility do not have speed loading .. will be just as slow as Ps4

Not all Games actually.

https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps4-to-ps5-all-games-with-confirmed-free-upgrades

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ps5-backwards-compatibility-ps4-compatible-playstation-6300

 

[Scylla]

my harvey norman one delay until dec-march --- shud i cancel order?

 

[Deathshadow]

In my honest opinion, don't buy the PS5 at launch. And by God, that PS5 is huge and rather unsightly.

There will be a PS5 slim and then a PS5 Pro.

The 10 teraflops the PS5 can do is really not that powerful and will need to be upgraded in the future for sure. The PS4 Pro is 4 teraflops+.

And, from the launch games i have seen so far, nothing stands out as "oh this could not have been done on a PS4 Pro".

By the way, the latest nvidia graphics cards are now up to 30 teraflops already.

GCN Architecture is not equal to RDNA 2 Architecture. They're not the same, so comparing it on just Teraflops numbers doesn't tell the whole story & isn't a fair comparison.

RDNA 2 is more efficient than GCN.

PS4 - 1.84 Teraflops (GCN)
PS4 Pro - 4.2 Teraflops (GCN)
PS5 - 10.28 Teraflops (RDNA 2)

Due to the efficiency of RDNA 2 Architecture, each RDNA 2 Teraflop adds roughly an extra 25% of power. Which if compared directly with PS4 GPU on the same terms, PS5 would be close to 13 Teraflops GCN.

As for PS5 Slim, its a 100% certainty as every previous PlayStation consoles & handheld receive a Slim model down the line, maybe 3 years away from launch. Pro model with upgraded specs, it's 50/50. I think its not needed as the tech & specs of PS5/Xbox Series X is more than capable to handle 4K gaming & good enough to last the entire generation (Whereas PS4 Pro/Xbox One X exist due to the advent of 4K TV in the middle of the generation).

 

[XseanX]

My friend explained it to me this way:

Imagine you have to ride a bike to go to work/school. You identify a certain route, and every day you take your bike on that same route.

One day, you upgrade to helicopter. If you take the same route, it will be faster, but only to a certain point because you are still flying the same route just that you are now in the air. If only you changed your route completely to take advantage of the helicopter's capabilities.

PS4 = bike
Old route = software code for PS4 game
PS5 = helicopter
New route = new software code for PS5 games

Is there a different if u change ur hdd on your ps4 to ssd ?

As per velcry's explanation, there is no way instant/steamless loading as show case will happen for games that is built based on PS4's architecture unless they rebuilt the codes ground up.

Changing hdd to ssd definitely will see an improvement in loading time but you have to consider worth the investment or not since PS5 is coming out soon with inbuilt ssd, might as save the $$ for the upgrade to PS5.

 

[MakiMaki]

In my honest opinion, don't buy the PS5 at launch. And by God, that PS5 is huge and rather unsightly.

There will be a PS5 slim and then a PS5 Pro.

The 10 teraflops the PS5 can do is really not that powerful and will need to be upgraded in the future for sure. The PS4 Pro is 4 teraflops+.

And, from the launch games i have seen so far, nothing stands out as "oh this could not have been done on a PS4 Pro".

By the way, the latest nvidia graphics cards are now up to 30 teraflops already.

For sure we will see the PS5 Pro mid cycle of this console gen. Trust me, most of us who will go all out to get new gadgets like PS5 at launch, will most likely get the pro when it comes out

 

[BangBusDriver]

In my honest opinion, don't buy the PS5 at launch. And by God, that PS5 is huge and rather unsightly.

There will be a PS5 slim and then a PS5 Pro.

The 10 teraflops the PS5 can do is really not that powerful and will need to be upgraded in the future for sure. The PS4 Pro is 4 teraflops+.

And, from the launch games i have seen so far, nothing stands out as "oh this could not have been done on a PS4 Pro".

By the way, the latest nvidia graphics cards are now up to 30 teraflops already.

Thanks for your inputs. I can't wait to collect my PS5 on November 19.

 

[ArsenalGear]

my harvey norman one delay until dec-march --- shud i cancel order?

You can wait until Dec to see if you can secure a set from the second batch from another store and decide if you want to cancel.

I only cancelled my HN order when I managed to secure another set from another store.

 

[Kwein]

Yes so much faster really is paying for quality of life

Is there a different if u change ur hdd on your ps4 to ssd ?

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[Deathshadow]

While power is important, its what you do with it that matters. Talent is the main factor. A talented developer is able to optimize & squeeze more out of a less powerful hardware. Compared to a average developer with more powerful hardware.

Current gen, there's no denying Xbox One X is more powerful than PS4 Pro, at least on paper with its superior specs. Yet PS4 have the better looking games. I've seen nothing from Microsoft first-party studios that rival the technical achievement & graphical fidelity of The Last of Us Part II, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima & Death Stranding.