[Official] Playstation 5

[LiLAsN]

OK, enjoy your PC gaming then. But I've this to say based on experience. Most of the time, console games have less issues on game release compared to PC. Yes, PC gaming is superior in terms of graphical resolution and frame rates, but users have to tweak settings to find the performance-stability balance. New PC games upon release, especially AAA titles, tend to suffer more game crashing and low FPS issues related to driver & software issues. It also takes a longer time for the developer to resolve these issues due to a variety of different user hardware configurations.

For consoles, it's just simple insert disc (or download) and play. Most of the time, there're no issues. Any issues will most likely affect all users of the same platform. Because the hardware is standardized and both CPU & GPU are integrated together in a single SOC, it's much easier and faster for the developer to patch.

Don't believe me? For example, google the number of issues & complaints related to Watch Dog: Legions on the PC platform compared to the console versions.

The trade-off for console users is resolution and frame rates, and higher game prices. So yes, the PC master race can laugh at console users for enduring 30fps gameplay at worst, 60fps as a blessing, and 120fps as a godsend. But I'll take that in return for more consistent, stable gameplay on large screen TV with all keys mapped to a single controller than having to deal with intermittent crashes, poor performance because of new unavoidabe Windows updates or GPU drivers, or having to juggle mapping so many gameplay control functions to multiple keys on the keyboard.

BTW, most console gamers also own a gaming PC.

Actually, don't forget that Nvidia GeForce Experience helps you with the settings for people who don't know how to optimize their PC game.

Just click on the game and click optimize. Done.

I wonder what problems those people are having. I played my Watch Dogs Legion at launch and have completed it without any problems with Ray Tracing. Similarly, I am now playing Assassin's Creed Valhalla which doesn't have ray tracing but I do enjoy both games with VRR on the TV.

Notice I never mention specs. You can play on whatever you want. You are willing to pay $729 for a PS5, you get the RTX 3070 or the AMD RX 6800XT(or is it 6700?). As long as both are priced at the same price as the console. CPU, who cares. Even an i5 can run since most games depend on GPU. So I'm not going to delve about specs. It's unnecessary.
Just use Geforce Experience to optimize it if you don't want to waste time tinkering. It's a one click kind of thing.

VRR is always On when you turn on G-Sync and have a compatible TV.
Been playing all these games on the TV with my PS4 controller. In Assassin's Creed Valhalla, if you connect your PS4 controller, it will show the PS4 button layout in the game. Talk about convenient.

So following the trend of a console, if you stick to your $729 graphics card for the same length of a console generation, then you will not be adding on to any cost.
Then it all comes down to the game pricing as well as any mandatory services like PS Plus to play online games and a storage upgrade which looks to be a must from that miniscule storage space on the PS5.
Which platform has more ongoing sales? PC.

I only started PC gaming halfway through the PS4 cycle.
I do use my PS4 for exclusive games and watching my old HD Blu-rays.
Was hoping to get the PS5 for the UHD BDs. But lack of Dolby Vision support. Goodness.

When buying, we want things that complement one another.
PC for 3rd party games, Epic Game Store free games, Media Streaming, Xbox games
PS4 for exclusive games, Blu-Ray player, PS Plus free games
Switch for Exclusive games, gaming on-the-go
Xbox, uh... Just buy it on PC since most are available there. No need to waste $700 on a box that can be played on PC as well as pay for Xbox Live just to play multiplayer. Gears of War? On PC as well.

PS5 is really blowing it. Was really expecting VRR available on all games as well as Atmos support for games for that added immersiveness and knowing if the enemy is above you.

And relax. I'm a console gamer. Started all the way back with Nintendo and the Sega Megadrive. I've had the OG Xbox, PS3 and PS4 and then PS4 Pro. Just that when value drops but prices remain high, remember the Xbox One vs PS4 launch where the Xbox One was less powerful and is more expensive along with releasing a year later, it is a recipe for disaster. PS5 hits 2 out of those 3 points.
Sometimes the hardest way is to teach these companies with our wallets. Thus, starve them of the only thing they care about, money, and we'll get a better machine like the PS4 was after the PS3 era.


Oh! This is a direct reply to you. If you have a PCIe 4 NVMe SSD, take note. Microsoft confirms its Xbox Series DirectStorage API works on Windows 10 to help streamline and optimize high-speed PCIe 4.0 gaming SSDs. So game loading time is about to be improved to PS5/XSX level of load times provided they are using the DX 12 Ultimate API in these newer games.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7489...ze-gen4-ssds-for-windows-10-gaming/index.html

 

[Recce5]

Lol, anyone up for a trade? PS5 for top of the range PC hardware.

https://youtu.be/iKPiup8h8Ys

 

[Recce5]

Actually, don't forget that Nvidia GeForce Experience helps you with the settings for people who don't know how to optimize their PC game.

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PC don't have the games that a PlayStation owner wanted to play, so all the arguments are moot.

You buy a game system because you wanted to play the games that are available on it, not because it has a RTX3080, or a 20 core CPU or 128GB of RAM or whatever.

Just enjoy the games you like on a system that runs them and be happy with it. There's no point in comparing a PC to PS5 cause they have different game egosystems.

I play games on BOTH PC and Playstation, the former mostly retro RPG games and Elder's Scroll series etc. Both have their places in my house.

 

[LiLAsN]

PC don't have the games that a PlayStation owner wanted to play, so all the arguments are moot.

You buy a game system because you wanted to play the games that are available on it, not because it has a RTX3080, or a 20 core CPU or 128GB of RAM or whatever.

Just enjoy the games you like on a system that runs them and be happy with it. There's no point in comparing a PC to PS5 cause they have different game egosystems.

I play games on BOTH PC and Playstation, the former mostly retro RPG games and Elder's Scroll series etc. Both have their places in my house.

Yup. As I've mentioned in my post, throughout the PS4 life cycle, these 2 devices along with the Switch complement each other.

Thus why, like you have also mentioned, I use my PS4 for its exclusives too and as a Bluray Disc player. God of War, Persona 5, many superbly fantastic games that justifies getting the PS4 just for the exclusives. Just like the Switch.

Didn't I already mention it is not about the specs. It is about the price comparison and what you get on the alternate platform.

"PC don't have the games that a PlayStation owner wanted to play, so all the arguments are moot."

Stupidest statement I've ever seen.
Clearly you didn't bother to read and just reply for the sake of replying. If you don't read, don't reply with something that I've already pointed out on it.

 

[Recce5]

"PC don't have the games that a PlayStation owner wanted to play, so all the arguments are moot."

Stupidest statement I've ever seen.
Clearly you didn't bother to read and just reply for the sake of replying. If you don't read, don't reply with something that I've already pointed out on it.

You're ****ng joking right?

If I'm saying the same thing as you, that also makes your own statement the stupidest as well?

 

[rollbread]

Just got sms from TOG on arranging collection date!

 

[melvinlee.yk]

Just got sms from TOG on arranging collection date!

Nice! mind to share if your pre-order was done on first or second round?

 

[LiLAsN]

PC don't have the games that a PlayStation owner wanted to play, so all the arguments are moot.

You mean they don't play Assassin's Creed? Watch Dogs? Cyberpunk 2077? Call of Duty? Fortnite? Overwatch? GTA?


Like I said, you didn't read. And just randomly spew words you think are right.
I've played a lot of games on the Playstation and have been invited to GameTest exclusive Playstation games behind closed doors before they were even out during the PS4 era.
My PS4 library alone is in the hundreds.

Just because Playstation becomes a bit too cocky and letting us, the consumers lose out, you want to defend a faceless company? Stop the fanboyism.
I spoke of value and how money talks and that's how we can make sure the next PS iteration, be it the Pro model or 6, will be better. Because if they can get away with charging a high price for less features, you can bet our purchase is a sure sign that they can continue going down this path.

When I worked for a certain game company, I made sure to make it known that consumers do not like the lootbox aspect. The game is too grindy and all. I made sure they know that as most gamers get older, the time they have in the games get shorter. Thus, it's better to not let the game's grindy aspect be a barrier to those gamers. Gladly, they changed and took in my advice.
Look at the alternative; EA games. To know what happens if they just get testers who are in the same wavelength as them and not open to accepting game tester feedback. The joke that is Anthem.(that I was paid to play to test that game just so you know) And now, Square Enix's Avengers.

Here, I am trying to do the same for the Playstation which I've been playing on for more than 10 years and you think I am here to just roll myself in some pathetic fanboyism fight? Sorry. I've no time for that. I've given my long rant as a feedback/opinion/2 cents and whatnot. You can take it for what it is. I am not here to be biased. I am giving you what I see in the value of the product.

And as for the PC talk, it's about my experience as a long time console gamer all the way back from the Sega era to jumping into PC gaming in the last 4 years (thanks to my game testing opportunities in these game companies being on PC most of the time but using the said controllers of your own platform that you are playing on if you really need to know) and how there's an alternative. If you genuinely want to know whether it is easy, I can guide and give you my advice. Such as I've mentioned, if rummaging through the settings menu is too tiresome, you have Geforce Experience. A 1-click optimization solution that will optimize the game specifically to your GPU card that you have.
That is all.

 

[LiLAsN]

Just got sms from TOG on arranging collection date!

You mean there's a specific time to come down and collect?
That's weird. The shop that I went to, I was given the choice to either opt for same-day delivery or come down personally to collect. But no mention of timing of when I can come down to collect was given. I thought it should be a whole day collection thing. Goodness. I hope to not receive any SMSes regarding this so I can easily collect 1st thing in the morning.
Been saving the next few days just for the PS exclusive games.

Trying to keep myself busy now with Assassin's Creed Valhalla and Call of Duty just so that I won't miss the urge to play Spiderman Miles Morales until the PS5.

 

[Recce5]

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That is all.

It's not just PS, XB as well. People buy it to play the games that are available on it, same goes for the Nintendo system. People like Nintendo games so they buy the system to play those games.

So, agree to disagree with you.

 

[rollbread]

Nice! mind to share if your pre-order was done on first or second round?

Mine was done first round in the morning at the shop. The sms is a link to select 3 date & time slot starting from 19 Nov onwards, then next will inform us again on the confirmed timeslots.

It says we can't just walk in to collect on other timing other than the timeslots allocated to us.

 

[melvinlee.yk]

Mine was done first round in the morning at the shop. The sms is a link to select 3 date & time slot starting from 19 Nov onwards, then next will inform us again on the confirmed timeslots.

It says we can't just walk in to collect on other timing other than the timeslots allocated to us.

I see, I did mine on the 2nd round (16th Oct), hope to get sms from them soon

 

[Radecx]

Just got sms from TOG on arranging collection date!

Same. 6 more days

 

[rza29]

relak guys...just a console....diff people have diff opinion about it...I have been a console guy for the longest time since Atari (not mine) -> Nintendo. Of course before console started get popular, I was still playing PC games like Alley Cat, Lode Runner, Dune etc. No longer play PC games except Jackbox which I purchased to play with friends remotely, other than that nope. I guess it is the loading time to start up the PC and launch the game which makes it a hassle and also the constant upgrading of hw and sw which in my opinion is a bit troublesome. I am just glad to lay my hands on the latest PS5 but it would have been great if we got have RT and play it with higher FR.

 

[zorrus]

anyone got any updates from Hachi (Challenger) launch day pre-orders?

 

[MakiMaki]

anyone got any updates from Hachi (Challenger) launch day pre-orders?

No indication on my order yet..been refreshing every day haha... but I believe XseanX and others in Facebook checked with their CS and seems like they will start delivery from 19/11. I believe they will start delivery of 1st preorder batch before proceeding with 2nd preorder batch..

 

[Nitrile]

no update from hachi here. hopefully they deliver on launch day like they did with xbox series x. bought some stuff from them before and their usual delivery takes days. zzz

 

[jedi5diah]

PC always master race and ahead that's how console can be cheaper because of adopting mature tech. They have their roles.

Also the good news for console gaming is FOV is coming to many games, some shooters already have.

Sent from X3 using GAGT

 

[MilgaussSC]

lol why even bother arguing. Console and PC have their different uses and users. No point arguing which is better. The price of a console is the price of a 3070. Cheaper even. Buying playstation is usually for their outstanding portfolio of games from their worldwide studios. Same with Nintendo. You could argue eh im not interested in any of their games. Thats fine. Go to where interests you then. For some its nintendo and for some its playstation. Simple as that

Pc games though tend to be cheaper due to steam sales. But as someone who has been disconnected from steam since 2014, I am shocked to see the prices of games on steam now in SGD. PS sales have been as good if not better sometimes vs steam. Not all the time but there were many times where i saw a game on steam thats 54 SGD vs PS4 thats 24 SGD. sometimes its the other way round. It makes sense that Sony would put their games on sale more often due to the ps4 console generation coming to a close. So i wonder if Sony would still be aggressive with their sales when the PS5 generation starts. Games are unfortunately getting expensive once again on consoles. Though in Singapore with lazada, shopee, etc. Its very very easy to never pay full price for these games.

 

[eslayer09]

guys, let's jus focus on PS5 related.

if u like PC then play on PC, if u like console then play on console, no need to try to prove anything

cheers