Official Shiny Things thread—Part III

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livingcharsiew

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it's already opened -.-

u can't buy when they are not open..
the underlying shares eg AAPL MSFT are not trading

There are references such as indices futures which open on sunday

E.g before LSE opened today, spy futures already drop 4.7% on sunday night, this drop can be easily seen in iwda opening price
but theres a chance that the anticipated drop may be less or more than the actual drop right? if I buy now and the US market drops less than what is reflected in IWDA underlying holdings, I can gain from that arbitrage?

eg CSPX drop 5% but actual s&p500 drop 4% only

Of course there is. Just like how you can lose money if US drops more than what the futures anticipate
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but theres a chance that the anticipated drop may be less or more than the actual drop right? if I buy now and the US market drops less than what is reflected in IWDA underlying holdings, I can gain from that arbitrage?

this is not arbitrage. you are simply betting on how US market is going to open.
 

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Shiny and all experts, is this drop only temporary, ie rebound expected soon...or is this a beginning of a long bear market?
 

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... Those tickers u mentioned can already be traded

I mean the underlying
CSPX holds AAPL MSFT V MA etc
all of these are not open for trading until us stock markets open so CSPX price is not tracking the actual price
 

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Ah yes, my strategy to time the market and wait for a crash is finally paying dividends.

When is a good entry point for you? I will start DCA when IWDA falls below $50
 

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Ah yes, my strategy to time the market and wait for a crash is finally paying dividends.

When is a good entry point for you? I will start DCA when IWDA falls below $50

you enter back first then we talk.
the strategy is not "paying dividends" before you actually enter back into the market
 

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i actually did my monthly dca last week, tonight activated warchest just bought another round.
 

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Hi guys, if I wanna buy in, let's say $1000, into STI ETF, what's the cheapest platform?

I saw FSMOne RSP the fee is only $1 minimum or 0.08%, but won't be able to start until next month's 8th..

FSMOne RSP is the cheapest, yeah.

Enter now or stick to the monthly date?
Hi Shiny, make I know whether you have any guidance as to when to deploy how much of the warchest, in this type of crazy market. Say for scenario where you have warchest of different sizes.

I'm going to answer both of these questions at once.

If you already have a nice regular schedule going, stick to it. That's the most important thing.

But if you were lurking on the sidelines because "oh I'm waiting for a crash": it's time to start investing and get into that regular investing schedule. Stuff is cheap. Take advantage of that.

I found Shiny's no no advise on leveraged ETF in (Part 2 of this series). However, I am not sure what is the technical term to use to search for Shiny's view on :

a) Borrowing in SGD to invest in STI ETF
b) whether borrowing in any currency to invest in STI ETF, S&P500 or any of the global ETFs makes sense

The technical term you're looking for is "no, don't be insane".

Borrowing to invest is (almost) always a terrible idea.

Standard chartered doesn't combine the transaction fee multiple trades of the same day right?

They do, in fact. Consolidating the transaction fee for multiple trades is very unusual; it's a weird thing that the Singaporean brokers sometimes do, but it's not a thing anywhere else. Stanchart's practice is closer to how it's normally done.

all in

tmr will go up

can sell next week quick for fast $$

You seem to have missed the point of this thread. You're not going to trade the market, and if you do you're going to lose money. You don't know whether the market's going to be up or down next week; and even if it's up you don't know whether you'll be strong enough to hold on through the swings and roundabouts between now and then.

But if you're patient, you have a huge advantage—you can ignore all the swings and roundabouts in the market for months or years or even decades. You don't need to get whiplash from every market move.
 

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you enter back first then we talk.
the strategy is not "paying dividends" before you actually enter back into the market

Wait till it hits $50 and I win then.

It's still a better strategy than buying in over the past couple of years.
 

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Guys, is IBKR down right now? =|

Also, what happened to the DIY insurance site? All posts about it on MoneyOwl has been deleted also =O
 

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Hi Shiny Things, what are good ways to evaluate index funds besides these reasons?

1) Ireland Domiciled ETFs vs US Domiciled ETFs
2) Daily Volume / Liquidity
3) Basket of stockets / market index that they track (i'm looking for a tech focused ETF that tracks FAANG)

Any other factors i missed out?
 

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IBKR is up, just log in with my Android phone.
Apparently some people have issues, others (me for example) don't have any issue logging in and placing orders.

Probably depends on the server you have been assigned to... Luck / no luck.
 

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IWDA now at $54.70 and most likely will be below $50 before end of this year. :s13:
People nowsaday always assume that stock prices will recover, but this is not cast in stone though, just look at Japan, or US in the after-math of 1929 where it takes a long time to recover.

Except it might go lower than $50, and the market never recovers.

Crystal ball much?
 
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