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hmm a couple of months? but they launch the phone really early this year. the OP12 launched in china in december last year iirc. it was released in SG in february this year? and it was at a huge price hike iirc. the CN set was way cheaper and eventually during some sales was cheaper than buying a OnePlus 12R local set iirc, so a lot of ppl got that instead. Though not sure if it will be possible to flash global ROM on CN set this time round or not since OnePlus seems to be trying to curb that in recent years. Lots of pattern like having region lock, changing the hardware slightly for global versions so that can't convert as easily (Ace3 to 12R for example).

Samsung might be interesting just because of rumours that they might use Dimensity chips. If they use D9400 for S25/S25+ instead of Exynos, it could be an interesting option too. on paper so far SD8E does seem to have a slight edge, but D9400 is no slouch either and still a massive upgrade over SD8G3 and D9300.
Dec 2023 launched, SG in Feb 2024.. Seems like the timing will be juz nice. Can easily compare the 2 phones.
Haiz.. SG price is always more expensive de.. What to do? If self control (discipline) good, then won't be bothered with all these liao.. Too bad, when comes to new phone models, I'm bad 😁
 

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Dec 2023 launched, SG in Feb 2024.. Seems like the timing will be juz nice. Can easily compare the 2 phones.
Haiz.. SG price is always more expensive de.. What to do? If self control (discipline) good, then won't be bothered with all these liao.. Too bad, when comes to new phone models, I'm bad 😁
but this does seem like a good time to look for an upgrade. this generation of chipsets from qualcomm and mediatek both got pretty massive improvements over the previous gen, which was already quite good. what used to be a very demanding game that most phones can't run well, genshin, can now easily run smoothly at higher render resolution without heating up too much. plus this year most CN phones i think will use higher density batteries already like OP13 with 6,000mAh. that plus better efficiency will help the phones last a lot longer. and with these 2 factors, small and powerful phones with minimal compromises are now doable too. will be an interesting year for phones. ;)(y)
 

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I see.. Thanks for your information. Usually how long is the global launch after China launch? Hmm.. If few months later, then can compare this with S25U le.. More choices then 😄
once global launch most will not go get unless die die need esim + $$$ not an issue cos local set is dearer

so most will get color os flash to oxygen os from shopee or lazada

n once go ah tiong phone most will not go back sammy or apple anymore
 

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once global launch most will not go get unless die die need esim + $$$ not an issue cos local set is dearer

so most will get color os flash to oxygen os from shopee or lazada

n once go ah tiong phone most will not go back sammy or apple anymore
I see.. Thank you for your advice.
Is it difficult to flash to oxygen os? I'm only good at debloating Samsung phone nia 😁
Oso, if flash to oxygen os, will get esim function?
 

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I see.. Thank you for your advice.
Is it difficult to flash to oxygen os? I'm only good at debloating Samsung phone nia 😁
Oso, if flash to oxygen os, will get esim function?
No esim, hardware limitation. You can’t flash on your own due to region lock. The seller need to put in China sim to unlock then ship to you.
 

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No esim, hardware limitation. You can’t flash on your own due to region lock. The seller need to put in China sim to unlock then ship to you.
Cannot flash on our own is due to locked bootloader, not region lock. If user knows the way about it then go ahead. The region lock solution is correct, though.
 

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Right now the biggest downside for me is the re-use of lytia 808 sensor, if the rumors are true. They should have went with at least 818 like vivo x200pro. But i was looking at op13's 8gE and it at least looks promising there
 

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but this does seem like a good time to look for an upgrade. this generation of chipsets from qualcomm and mediatek both got pretty massive improvements over the previous gen, which was already quite good. what used to be a very demanding game that most phones can't run well, genshin, can now easily run smoothly at higher render resolution without heating up too much. plus this year most CN phones i think will use higher density batteries already like OP13 with 6,000mAh. that plus better efficiency will help the phones last a lot longer. and with these 2 factors, small and powerful phones with minimal compromises are now doable too. will be an interesting year for phones. ;)(y)
i have strong feel that that this snapdragon 8 elite high power consumption despite more efficient than previous chip. that why the requirement for it min 6000mAh battery. shall wait for battery drain test. dont you find it funny they only keep emphasis on big battery capacity and 100w fast charge but nv mentioned can last how long on a full charge 😂I think what consumers are really interested is whether i bring my phone go out, can it really last a day with heavy usage without the need of power bank.
 

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i have strong feel that that this snapdragon 8 elite high power consumption despite more efficient than previous chip. that why the requirement for it min 6000mAh battery. shall wait for battery drain test. dont you find it funny they only keep emphasis on big battery capacity and 100w fast charge but nv mentioned can last how long on a full charge 😂I think what consumers are really interested is whether i bring my phone go out, can it really last a day with heavy usage without the need of power bank.
erm, there are a bunch of tests on bilibili already. just on CPU performance, 8 Elite only need like half the amount of power consumption (~5.5W) in order to achieve 8 Gen 3's peak performance (~11W)... all the gaming test show noticeably less power consumption too compared to last gen chips. and on this graph, it's clearly more efficient than 8 Gen 3 across the board, even at low power consumption, day to day scenarios.

it's not a "requirement". it's just that new battery tech that allow denser batteries in a similar size... if anything the bigger capacity battery + more efficient chip will bring noticeably longer battery life than last gen flagship. there are a ton of info and reviews out there already.

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just hoping that the denser battery pack tech is not going to repeat the Samsung Note 7 fiasco nia... and really that lytia808 reuse is pissing me off internally
haha. doubt so la. that denser battery has been around half a year liao. since vivo started using them in x fold 3 and then in a bunch of iqoo phones too like Z9 series. so far haven't heard anything crazy from Chinese users. :ROFLMAO:

talking about that, imagine the more efficient chips we get this year from 8 Elite and D9400 + a similar 6400mAh battery like in the iQOO Z9 Turbo+. that would be insane, and 2 days of actual use might be finally possible haha.
 

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erm, there are a bunch of tests on bilibili already. just on CPU performance, 8 Elite only need like half the amount of power consumption (~5.5W) in order to achieve 8 Gen 3's peak performance (~11W)... all the gaming test show noticeably less power consumption too compared to last gen chips. and on this graph, it's clearly more efficient than 8 Gen 3 across the board, even at low power consumption, day to day scenarios.

it's not a "requirement". it's just that new battery tech that allow denser batteries in a similar size... if anything the bigger capacity battery + more efficient chip will bring noticeably longer battery life than last gen flagship. there are a ton of info and reviews out there already.

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i think i happened to read this article yesterday. it kinda says even though cpu get more and more efficiency every year, it doesn't translate that battery can last you longer. it might be the same or even lower even though battery capacity improved. Maybe the efficiency improvement was used to improve on "A.I features" for oneplus or require more "power" for their ultrasonic fingerprint scanner and hence for end user like us can't really tell a difference. That why i think it's better see real battery drain test to see how long it lasts than doing 100000 tests to prove that it's more efficient than previous chips but doesn't show real battery usage scenario.

https://www.androidcentral.com/phon...e-doesnt-need-efficiency-cores-to-last-longer
 
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I see.. Thank you for your advice.
Is it difficult to flash to oxygen os? I'm only good at debloating Samsung phone nia 😁
Oso, if flash to oxygen os, will get esim function?
phone get from shopee or lazada already flash to oxygen os

actually no problem with using color os as well............u can search n read 1 user review in oneplus 12 thread using color os
 

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phone get from shopee or lazada already flash to oxygen os

actually no problem with using color os as well............u can search n read 1 user review in oneplus 12 thread using color os
Oh.. Nice to know that.
So now, the only difference between flashed and non flash is, esim? And of cos, the price difference..
 

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Oh.. Nice to know that.
So now, the only difference between flashed and non flash is, esim? And of cos, the price difference..
there may be band difference besides esim. also flash comes only with shop warranty vs official 2 years warranty.
 
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I see.. Thank you for your advice.
Is it difficult to flash to oxygen os? I'm only good at debloating Samsung phone nia 😁
Oso, if flash to oxygen os, will get esim function?
Don't attempt it yourself ba. Now flashing isn't as straight forward as before. And with the region lock in place, makes the entire process even more tedious.

Nope, esim requires hardware to work as well. So esim still can't be used even if u flash to oxygenOS
 
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