Pioneer Plasma Thread

[evolute8]

yup. i got at $27xx with all freebies and warranty inclusive.

which shop did u went for the 428xg ?

 

[strike55]

which shop did u went for the 428xg ?

got it at the pc show. best denki booth.

 

[sAxman_Returns]

When it comes to tv screen, BLACK is everything for best colour, contrast, details...
I hope and am sure some of you will agree on this.

Black is essential, but not everything.

Clarity and color space is as important as Black Deep Level.

 

[Blazkowicz]

Deep black level would just improve the contrast ratio. Its not the only thing that matters.

 

[petetherock]

running-in setting suggested at the Pioneer FAQ website:
http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/plasmatv.php?player=Plasma-TV&question=Running_In


To summarise those running-in settings (items in bold are most important):

Main Menu:
AV Selection: User
Contrast: 15 to 20 (this is the killer bit for running in)
Brightness: -10 to 0 (lower is better, but it's your call as to what is reasonable to watch). Brightness should be set to the point where you can't see the pixels starting to emit light in dark parts of the image. Having brightness too high is unlikely to cause any issues during run in except make the image look washed out. Contrast is the killer not brightness.
Color: -10 to -5 (lower is better, but it´s your call as to what is reasonable to watch). Most people never go below -10.
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -9 to -3


Pro Adjust:

Pure Cinema: OFF (for progressive source) & STANDARD (for interlaced source)

Film Mode: ADV
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture (Dynamic Contrast): OFF (very important)
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Gamma: 2


Color Detail:

Color Temp: MID-LOW or if you want to MID depending on preference for white balance (the default colour temp is very cyan)

CTI: Off

Color Space: 2


Other:

I-P Mode: 1


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off or Low
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off


Power Control:

Power Save Mode: Save 2


Play video games using the "GAME" mode (under AV Selection) for the screen, and try not to play them for more than a couple of hours at a time

 

[evolute8]

running-in setting suggested at the Pioneer FAQ website:
http://www.pioneerfaq.info/english/plasmatv.php?player=Plasma-TV&question=Running_In


To summarise those running-in settings (items in bold are most important):

Main Menu:
AV Selection: User
Contrast: 15 to 20 (this is the killer bit for running in)
Brightness: -10 to 0 (lower is better, but it's your call as to what is reasonable to watch). Brightness should be set to the point where you can't see the pixels starting to emit light in dark parts of the image. Having brightness too high is unlikely to cause any issues during run in except make the image look washed out. Contrast is the killer not brightness.
Color: -10 to -5 (lower is better, but it´s your call as to what is reasonable to watch). Most people never go below -10.
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -9 to -3


Pro Adjust:

Pure Cinema: OFF (for progressive source) & STANDARD (for interlaced source)

Film Mode: ADV
Text Optimization: Off

Intelligence: Off


Picture Detail:

DRE Picture (Dynamic Contrast): OFF (very important)
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Gamma: 2


Color Detail:

Color Temp: MID-LOW or if you want to MID depending on preference for white balance (the default colour temp is very cyan)

CTI: Off

Color Space: 2


Other:

I-P Mode: 1


Noise Reduction:

3DNR: Off or Low
Field NR: Off
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off


Power Control:

Power Save Mode: Save 2


Play video games using the "GAME" mode (under AV Selection) for the screen, and try not to play them for more than a couple of hours at a time

thanks !!!!

 

[daneee]

Pioneer plasma prices in Singapore

why are prices for Pioneer plama's so high here? I am from Europe, and in the past all electronics were cheaper in Singapore by a good margin.
Now prices in general are similar to Europe (which has 19-25% GST included), but for Pioneer plasma's the price here is a lot higher than Europe AND the models are released later as well.

for example the new full HD 50" PDP-LX5090 cost in Europe equivalent to S$ 6500-7000 inclucing 19-25% GST. In singapore the OLD model 5080 is priced at S$ 15000...

The tv's are made in Japan and GST here is only 7% - why and how can they get away with these prices?

Last year i looked at the 42" Pioneer 428 which was priced close to S$ 4000 here - at the same time in Hong Kong the same tv cost S$ 2400...

Can anyone explain or guide me to where to buy at decent prices in Singapore?

 

[petetherock]

Welcome

Mate
Our market is smaller
More people buy cheapo panels and small panels around 32" in this forum
Use the SEARCH button, lots of threads on places to buy and good deals here, and read the stickies.

The next COMEX show will have some good prices too. You may wish to go along with a friend if you have never been to such a show, they tend to be rather crowded and some silly chap will still bring their baby...

why are prices for Pioneer plama's so high here? I am from Europe, and in the past all electronics were cheaper in Singapore by a good margin.
Now prices in general are similar to Europe (which has 19-25% GST included), but for Pioneer plasma's the price here is a lot higher than Europe AND the models are released later as well.

for example the new full HD 50" PDP-LX5090 cost in Europe equivalent to S$ 6500-7000 inclucing 19-25% GST. In singapore the OLD model 5080 is priced at S$ 15000...

The tv's are made in Japan and GST here is only 7% - why and how can they get away with these prices?

Last year i looked at the 42" Pioneer 428 which was priced close to S$ 4000 here - at the same time in Hong Kong the same tv cost S$ 2400...

Can anyone explain or guide me to where to buy at decent prices in Singapore?

 

[sAxman_Returns]

the big show tricks doesn't really work anymore. retailers are not stupid for long term.....

but, you can try ur luck still

 

[mitaimak]

ISF Calibration

hi guys, has anyone engaged the service of a ISF-certified company to calibrate your kuro panel?
aside to pete, thanks.

 

[petetherock]

9 Generation Pionner Plasma

Its out in USA and UK...
9 Gen panel...
Maybe we will see it by year end?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1053444

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2008/08/06/Pioneer-Kuro-PDP-LX5090-50in-Plasma-TV/p1

 

[alanchia67]

Was at Best Denki at Vivo, they are selling Pioneer 5000EX at S$7999. Good deal right?!

 

[petetherock]

You should compare the price with that of a new LX 508 before you decide.
I believe this model has no TV tuner, its just a monitor. No speakers either

Cheers

Was at Best Denki at Vivo, they are selling Pioneer 5000EX at S$7999. Good deal right?!

 

[evolute8]

Is this model available in singapore ?

Pioneer KURO Elite PRO-950HD 42" Plasma TV
http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/pioneer-pro950hd.html

I'm looking for a 42" pioneer plasma..

 

[evolute8]

Is PDP-428XG the last 42" plasma from pioneer ?

http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront2/ProductDetail/default.asp?ProductId=507&CatId=6

I dun see any 9th gen plasma tv below 50"...

 

[alanchia67]

You should compare the price with that of a new LX 508 before you decide.
I believe this model has no TV tuner, its just a monitor. No speakers either

Cheers

the 508 is listed at 5-digit price.

 

[hdtvsg]

Is PDP-428XG the last 42" plasma from pioneer ?

http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront2/ProductDetail/default.asp?ProductId=507&CatId=6

I dun see any 9th gen plasma tv below 50"...

Yes it will be last 42" panel made by Pio. From 9G panels, Pio will use their own panels for 50" and above and 42" will be sourced from Panny if my memory is correct.

 

[hdtvsg]

Was at Best Denki at Vivo, they are selling Pioneer 5000EX at S$7999. Good deal right?!

It is a professional model that is why no tuner and speakers, but PQ wise it is better than LX 508 IMO. When I compared next to each other, 5000EX seemed to have less noise (read as distortion) and colour looked more natural.
For further reading what reviewers are saying

http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/review/2006/10/14/Pioneer-PDP-5000EX-50in-plasma-TV/p1

http://www.cnet.com.au/tvs/plasma/0,239035288,240091745,00.htm?feed=pt_pdp_5000ex

Not long ago, one of Sydney's HN store sold this panel for $A1799 as a clearance, think this was a display unit.

If you are after 50" Pio panel, I would wait for 509 as they are just around corner to be released.

 

[evolute8]

Yes it will be last 42" panel made by Pio. From 9G panels, Pio will use their own panels for 50" and above and 42" will be sourced from Panny if my memory is correct.

oh..ok

hope the 428xg is still available by yr end..

 

[evolute8]

i think 50" plasma is rare in hdb flats...max is usually 42"