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This ex-Muslim has been spreading misinformation about Islam and ridiculing Muslims and the Prophet.




Proof 1:



Proof 2:

He's still alive and kicking despite being an ex-Muslim.


https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ome-share-yours.6868231/page-3#post-146087423
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ome-share-yours.6868231/page-9#post-146090925
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...really-arm-chio.6713638/page-9#post-140388082
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...law-taliban-spokesman.6580708/#post-136042927

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-muslim-law-act.6566706/page-4#post-135609284
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ican-troops-by-sept-11.6581886/post-136099140
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...tment-of-islam.6400955/page-10#post-130537830
 
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Maybe the mods can answer this.

is there a reason why we have additional watcher to repeatedly patrol edmw to flag posts from 2020 and beyond?

We have a reporting limit daily in place to discourage uneccessary reporting

feedback forum is for raising other concerns.

but if ts keeps raising additional topics on a such a frequent basis that only means that he is circumventing the limit then why bother to even limit reporting?

everyone would abuse the feedback forum and goes back to sq 1 of don’t need reporting limits.

also we definitely don’t need an extra pseudo mod to repeatedly monitor forums
 
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Isn't repeated and habitual reporting in feedback forum an active circumvention of the reporting limit?

TS should decide which posts he finds more offensive or inappropriate and report those accordingly while adhering to his reporting limit, like how all members have to strictly adhere to forum rules.
 
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Orionz said:
Isn't repeated and habitual reporting in feedback forum an active circumvention of the reporting limit?

TS should decide which posts he finds more offensive and report those accordingly and adhere to his reporting limit, like how all members have to adhere to forum rules.
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No such rule
 
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factuup said:
No such rule
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What rule? I did not refer to the reporting limit as a rule. But members should adhere to the forum functionalities as they are intended and not attempt to circumvent it.

If i recall correctly, I read that recently people got infracted for circumventing the censorship filter.
 
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Orionz said:
What rule? I did not refer to the reporting limit as a rule. But members should adhere to the forum functionalities as they are intended and not attempt to circumvent it.

Similar to how I read recently people got infracted for circumventing the censorship filter.
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I am adhering.
 
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For the uninitiated, the past years' posts are attached to show that said member has a history of such behaviour.

I've long known that only the past six months' posts can be infracted.
 
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Orionz said:
if that is the case, admin should think about what is the point of having a reporting limit
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Whatever the case, this is what matters:

This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts.

This feedback of mine is posted in the feedback forum.

Reporting limit works in reducing the number of reports because not many want others to know that they reported.
 
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factuup said:
This ex-Muslim has been spreading misinformation about Islam and ridiculing Muslims and the Prophet.

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Anyway, I'm not a muslim nor ex-muslim but after googling, i think punishment of apostasy in islam as well as the practice of Rajm (stoning) is not necessary always a matter of fact but often that of opinion and interpretation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajm

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There is disagreement among modern Islamic thinkers as to the applicability of stoning for adultery. While religious texts often give examples both with and without stoning, the Quran does not prescribe stoning as a punishment for any crime, mentioning only lashing as punishment for adultery. However most[1] scholars maintain that there is sufficient evidence from hadiths to derive a ruling. The vast majority of Muslims consider hadiths, which describe the words, conduct and example set by Muhammad during his life, as a source of law and religious authority second only to the Quran. They consider sahih hadiths to be a valid source of Sharia, justifying their belief on Quranic verse 33.21,[39] and other verses.[40][41][42]
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Death for apostasy in Islam is indeed practiced in some parts of the world.

1920px-Apostasy_laws_world_map.svg.png

There is also the matter of public opinion.
In some countries (especially in Central Asia, Southeast Europe, and Turkey), support for the death penalty for apostasy was confined to a tiny fringe; in other countries (especially in the Arab world and South Asia) majorities and large minorities support the death penalty.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
 
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factuup said:
1) That's all I need to know.

2) Debating this topic here will be reported as derailing. Actually, there's nothing to debate. This is conclusive:

https://www.muis.gov.sg/officeofthe...-on-Freedom-of-Religion-and-Apostasy-in-Islam
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I think you misunderstood here. There is no attempt at debate and certainly no derailment here.

I am simply providing my view as a forum user as mods and admin have repeatedly mentioned that the views of all users on controversial posts will be considered.

I think the said user and post was an expression of his experience and opinion of his (ex) religion, and not an attempt to spread falsehood. I was trying to show that this topic is often a matter of opinion.

As you provided your feedback on this post, I am also providing mine.

Thanks for the link, it goes to show that even MUIS is only providing advisory and i quote "OPINION OF OFFICE OF THE MUFTI". Not going to go further because that would then certainly lead us to the realm of debate and derailment. :)
 
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Orionz said:
I think you misunderstood here. There is no attempt at debate and certainly no derailment here.

I am simply providing my view as a forum user as mods and admin have repeatedly mentioned that the views of all users on controversial posts will be considered.

I think the said user and post was an expression of his experience and opinion of his (ex) religion, and not an attempt to spread falsehood. I was trying to show that this topic is often a matter of opinion.

As you provided your feedback on this post, I am also providing mine.

Thanks for the link, it goes to show that even MUIS is only providing advisory and i quote "OPINION OF OFFICE OF THE MUFTI". Not going to go further because that would then certainly lead us to the realm of debate and derailment. :)
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Well, MUIS is under the purview of a Minister, who is part of the government.
If you - a citizen - disagree with their opinion, by all means let them know of yours.

Besides, the Mufti of Singapore is always someone who attended years of Islamic school and has the paper qualifications that triumph any user who relies on Wikipedia.

The fact of the matter is that I've proven that said member made false statements that disparage Islam. As such, my opinion is that his account here be banned for good.
 
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factuup said:
Well, MUIS is under the purview of a Minister, who is part of the government.
If you - a citizen - disagree with their opinion, by all means let them know of yours.

Besides, the Mufti of Singapore is always someone who attended years of Islamic school and has the paper qualifications that triumph any user who relies on Wikipedia.

The fact of the matter is that I've proven that said member made false statements that disparage Islam. As such, my opinion is that his account here be banned for good.
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Since u insist what he said is so false, did you report police n have them get the right resources to investigate?
 
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