[Poll] For $200,000 course fees; Would u take a 3 year biz degree in Australia or a airline transport pilot licence?

Which course would u take in Australia?

  • Biz degree course -3-4 years

    Votes: 7 8.5%
  • Flight training leading to ATPL, can join airlines as 2nd or 3rd officer, as co-pilot (ard 2 years)

    Votes: 75 91.5%

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cosmothecat

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Save your money

Work for 3 years, earn $200k more

In total you are up by $400k, instead of down $200k
 

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Pilot of course...high earner and got loads of air stewardess to pika pika...:s34:
 

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TBH, if you intending on getting pilot license, at least get a degree, it is a form of job security.

Nowadays pilot is not a glamorous profession. Having a degree is a backup.
 

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I felt a lot of such professional jobs have very high bar in costs to be certified and also the qualifications made it anti competitive, this can also be said for legal or medical field to practice in sg.

the correct way is to get certified overseas, in this case get the overseas pilot qualifications, work overseas then if you want to come back, you are well qualified.

the answer is the authority has already considered that and most won’t return to work so effectively they either look for 3rd world or reserve the lucrative ones for their own.

a disgrace if you ask me, shutting paths for many with skills and dreams but no $$$. Nope those 1 or 2 CSR cadets in the class don’t count.

If you were a Singaporean and you decided to self fund your foreign licence and fly for a foreign airline, chances are you won't return to fly for Singapore Airlines. I should also mention the risks are high that you may not be hired by foreign airlines and you end up working as a flight instructor that doesn't pay much.

The Singapore Airlines route is safer because you don't have to invest your own personal money on flight training.

There's nepotism in SIA pilot pool. Some are nephews of existing pilots. Some are sons of existing senior staff. It is what it is.
 

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Pilot course no brainer. Flying will be in demand and be increasing unless another round of covid.
 

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If you were a Singaporean and you decided to self fund your foreign licence and fly for a foreign airline, chances are you won't return to fly for Singapore Airlines. I should also mention the risks are high that you may not be hired by foreign airlines and you end up working as a flight instructor that doesn't pay much.

The Singapore Airlines route is safer because you don't have to invest your own personal money on flight training.

There's nepotism in SIA pilot pool. Some are nephews of existing pilots. Some are sons of existing senior staff. It is what it is.
Yes because you will work overseas, it is 50-50% whether you will land a job but you can always apply other countries nearby as their benchmark may not be high.

how many you know actually made the SIA route? Is it that easy to get in if you are not someone? It is similar to tanker or higher office in banking where the role is passed on to their offsprings.

This is actually the truth because I have met a few cases, here and even overseas.

so I put it 50-50 oveseas, here lesser than 50.
 

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Lets say u got $200k for the course fees, and u r fit to take flying lessons

which course would u choose if goin overseas to study?

P.s Australian flight schools are not competitive, meaning if u got money, certified fit, u can enrol
Pilot jod will go the way of NEL MRT driver jod.
 

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If you need to ask this kinda of question. It means you don't know what you want to do in your life la...
 

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Lets say u got $200k for the course fees, and u r fit to take flying lessons

which course would u choose if goin overseas to study?

P.s Australian flight schools are not competitive, meaning if u got money, certified fit, u can enrol
Please take note that NO GURANTEE they you airlines will take you. The chances are very low. It is better to join Scoot as self funded cadet pilot and at least it comes with job once you get the wings.
 

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I wouldnt waste the $200k..
Degree must be less than 50k.
Best is those 3 years or less degree.
Nowadays degrees holders from India, Philippines, Myanmar, China, etc are working here...I guess they are recognized I Singapore....at a fraction of the cost...
 

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Yes because you will work overseas, it is 50-50% whether you will land a job but you can always apply other countries nearby as their benchmark may not be high.

how many you know actually made the SIA route? Is it that easy to get in if you are not someone? It is similar to tanker or higher office in banking where the role is passed on to their offsprings.

This is actually the truth because I have met a few cases, here and even overseas.

so I put it 50-50 oveseas, here lesser than 50.

Base on my experience, during flight training in Australia, my flight instructor was accumulating hours for ATPL, he only got into Qantas on the 2nd attempt.

My other flight instructor happened to be a Singaporean tapped on his networks in Singapore Airlines, couldn't get in, went to Australia to become flight instructor and cannot get into Qantas. The chances are very slim because when you look at the vast number of Flight instructor accumulating hours waiting to get a seat in Qantas.

As for nepotism, my friend back then when I knew him as a cadet pilot (now A350 Capt) told me while waiting for his interview, he saw a Captain and a person in formal wear walked in, opened the door. The Captain was greeted by name by quite a lot of interviewers in the room. The Captain put his hands around the person's shoulders and said, "My nephew ah". :s39:

I'm not saying SIA is a bad company. Nepotism exist in all industries.
 

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Base on my experience, during flight training in Australia, my flight instructor was accumulating hours for ATPL, he only got into Qantas on the 2nd attempt.

My other flight instructor happened to be a Singaporean tapped on his networks in Singapore Airlines, couldn't get in, went to Australia to become flight instructor and cannot get into Qantas. The chances are very slim because when you look at the vast number of Flight instructor accumulating hours waiting to get a seat in Qantas.

As for nepotism, my friend back then when I knew him as a cadet pilot (now A350 Capt) told me while waiting for his interview, he saw a Captain and a person in formal wear walked in, opened the door. The Captain was greeted by name by quite a lot of interviewers in the room. The Captain put his hands around the person's shoulders and said, "My nephew ah". :s39:

I'm not saying SIA is a bad company. Nepotism exist in all industries.
That nephew is oso interviewee?
 

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2nd is more niche and applicable, compare to a general business degree which is a dime a dozen
its a no brainer

even a helicopter pilot license is better than a biz degree
 

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TS is giving an imaginary scenario. assuming you are 'fit to fly'.

Then yes, I want to Opt for pilot course too.
 

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Nowadays degrees holders from India, Philippines, Myanmar, China, etc are working here...I guess they are recognized I Singapore....at a fraction of the cost...
Their degree also cheap n short duration one.
 

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Base on my experience, during flight training in Australia, my flight instructor was accumulating hours for ATPL, he only got into Qantas on the 2nd attempt.

My other flight instructor happened to be a Singaporean tapped on his networks in Singapore Airlines, couldn't get in, went to Australia to become flight instructor and cannot get into Qantas. The chances are very slim because when you look at the vast number of Flight instructor accumulating hours waiting to get a seat in Qantas.

As for nepotism, my friend back then when I knew him as a cadet pilot (now A350 Capt) told me while waiting for his interview, he saw a Captain and a person in formal wear walked in, opened the door. The Captain was greeted by name by quite a lot of interviewers in the room. The Captain put his hands around the person's shoulders and said, "My nephew ah". :s39:

I'm not saying SIA is a bad company. Nepotism exist in all
I say there are many airlines in many countries. No need to always aim for amdk places. Can be also get in and be a qualified pilot say if you apply elsewhere, say Philippines, Myanmar or even Indonesia airline.

Key is get all the experience first then u decide want to go amdk.

that is why we locals lose out always must comfort zone
 
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