Proposal Ring - Part 2

[Des126]

Hi can I get the pro here to help me check if the specs of this diamond is ok?

Based on the spec and images, this is definitely a Super Ideal H&A diamond.

 

[Des126]

Thanks for the response. The Polaris Ice diamond showed to me was triple exc according to the GIA cert. Hope that this cert is reliable.

What would be the reasonable price for this spec: 0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc?

GIA Triple Excellent does not guarantee the performance of the diamond. You must always ask for Aset Scope image to further confirm if it is an Ideal Cut.

I don think you should go as high as VVS1 unless you are very particular in clarity. Even some of VS diamonds looks as clean as VVS1 under the loupes. Color wise, i always stick to colorless (D/E/F) diamond.

 

[Des126]

Thanks for the response. The Polaris Ice diamond showed to me was triple exc according to the GIA cert. Hope that this cert is reliable.

What would be the reasonable price for this spec: 0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc?

I always check from Bluenile as reference. This 0.32 H VVS1 3EX should not be more than SGD1000 for the loose diamond.

 

[Draculav]

For that amount of $$, you can easily get a 1ct diamond ring in a non-branded shop. Your paying about 200% more for the brand name. I've bought a 0.4 carat Tiffany ring before for $8.6k. For my upgrade diamond, I managed to get a Super Ideal 0.6 carat diamond somewhere else and nearly half of that price. Plus, my 0.6ct looked more brilliant.. and no one is going to know that is a Tiffany or Cartier ring unless you tell them.

If you're choice is only between those 2, I would avoid the 0.70ct one.

You got 2 rings in the end? Out of curiosity, what did you do with your old Tiffany ring then?

Hi,

I have been looking around a bit. I saw a 0.9ct round brilliant GIA, VS2, VG cut, EX polish and symmetry, no fluorscence, going for $54xx. Its a H color though. Is this worth a closer look?

I'll take a pass on this one.. You should take a look at a VG Cut diamond in person and compare it to a better cut.. big big difference..

 

[firewalker85]

For that amount of $$, you can easily get a 1ct diamond ring in a non-branded shop. Your paying about 200% more for the brand name. I've bought a 0.4 carat Tiffany ring before for $8.6k. For my upgrade diamond, I managed to get a Super Ideal 0.6 carat diamond somewhere else and nearly half of that price. Plus, my 0.6ct looked more brilliant.. and no one is going to know that is a Tiffany or Cartier ring unless you tell them.

If you're choice is only between those 2, I would avoid the 0.70ct one.

Saw your old comparison post. +1

This is the Tiffany i got before

I wasn't happy that the diamond was not of the best quality that I was hoping for, my wife found the diamond was too small, end up we got one more from Jannpaul.

The funny thing we both notice is that jannpaul diamond is whiter, even the color is lower. It's possible to see from the pictures too. My camera cannot capture the sparkles but in real life the jannpaul diamond is much more sparkly and looks just more clean, like you can see all the cutting much clearer.

 

[ventisg]

Based on the spec and images, this is definitely a Super Ideal H&A diamond.

I have change it to a 0.54 F VS 1 Solasfera =)

 

[teqrise]

I though of that also (paying 200% more, but the I compare those diamond and the setting in lee hwa, SK and gold heart, like not as nice as Tiffany one. If I were to custom made, they can't produce the ring exactly like Tiffany one (crafting of the design)

And for me, I am not so well verse in diamond knowledge.. Scare kena ripped off by those no brand jeweller.


Guys, would you take a 0.86carat diamond with about H color and VS2 is or a 0.72 carat with F color and VVS1 if the price is almost same? Or rather what will the girl like?

If price the same, I'll pick the bigger 0.86carat one and try to upgrade for the G Color minimum

 

[Amplif1er]

Hi all,

I'm totally new to diamonds, and I thought it would be great to gain some knowledge here.

Are private jewelers much value-for-money as compared to jewelry houses like Cartier?

What about brands like Forever Mark as compared to private jewelers?

I am unsure as to where should I get the proposal ring, so would like to seek opinions as such. Thanks!

 

[kohorok]

Can some one tell me if this is good?

Is this good?

Is it true the more Reddish area the better?

 

[kohorok]

Hi Guys,

is Clarity Characteristics "Feather" something I should avoid?

 

[Des126]

Hi Guys,

is Clarity Characteristics "Feather" something I should avoid?

Feather is one of the most common clarity characteristics that can be seen on a diamond grading report. It can be found in diamond range from VVS1 to I3.

Whether you should avoid the feather, it depends on their size and position. Generally, if a feather does not create an opening on the surface of the stone, if it does not reach the girdle edge, or if it does not connect to other feathers near the surface, then it should not be a durability issue.

If a diamond has survived mining and faceting, then it is unlikely that a feather will worsen with wear. Generally, feathers in VVS1 to VS2 or even SI1 do not pose a durability risk during normal wear, but each stone must be judged individually.

 

[Des126]

Is this good?

Is it true the more Reddish area the better?

The HCA is used to eliminate lesser performers as one of the first steps of evaluation. The aim is to score less than 2 in most cases, then such diamonds are considered a " pass pending further evaluation". Meaning to say you still need ASET image to further analyse the performance of the diamond even it has passed the HCA test.

 

[Des126]

Hi all,

I'm totally new to diamonds, and I thought it would be great to gain some knowledge here.

Are private jewelers much value-for-money as compared to jewelry houses like Cartier?

What about brands like Forever Mark as compared to private jewelers?

I am unsure as to where should I get the proposal ring, so would like to seek opinions as such. Thanks!

If you are looking for diamonds that value-for-money for sure private jewellers will be your choice. If possible, try to look for those who provide ASET image for analysis.

As long as a diamond is given a brand name, you should expect a premium to be charged to the price as well. ForverMark carrys VG to Ex cut diamonds which make me believe the brand do not focus on Cut like Hearts On Fire.

 

[bedposthalo]

Is this good?

Is it true the more Reddish area the better?

The diamond has a Very Good scintillation and an Excellent spread. This means that the diamond is cut wider and too shallow which causes the diamond to have less scintillation. It's very hard to see the difference between a Very Good and Excellent spread since the visual difference is very minimal. But for a difference between a Very Good and Excellent scintillation, it will be a bigger difference since the diamond would be less sparkly. It's a bad trade off if you ask me.

I noticed the proportions of the diamond and it's almost a 60/60 diamond. Plus the crown angle and pavilion angle is wayyyy to high. This shows that it is a shallow cut diamond and it's not going to have a high scintillation. This is one of the cases where the HCA score can be very misleading. Looking at the proportions alone, I won't classify this as a good diamond at all. It's very likely that this diamond would look terrible under the scopes.

Hi Guys,

is Clarity Characteristics "Feather" something I should avoid?

Feather inclusions are fine.. just avoid those that are on the girdle.

 

[bedposthalo]

Hi all,

I'm totally new to diamonds, and I thought it would be great to gain some knowledge here.

Are private jewelers much value-for-money as compared to jewelry houses like Cartier?

What about brands like Forever Mark as compared to private jewelers?

I am unsure as to where should I get the proposal ring, so would like to seek opinions as such. Thanks!

Forever Mark is a brand name, just like Lazare, Hearts on Fire, etc. In terms of value for money, you won't find any in these brands because you're already paying for their names. I would suggest reading the past pages and doing some research on how to buy a good diamond. If you want a shortcut, you can go to Jannpaul. They give a long education about diamonds. They seem to be the only open and honest company which bothers to fully educate their customers. Most other companies I visited either don't know their stuff or try to feed me nonsense.

 

[Amplif1er]

If you are looking for diamonds that value-for-money for sure private jewellers will be your choice. If possible, try to look for those who provide ASET image for analysis.

As long as a diamond is given a brand name, you should expect a premium to be charged to the price as well. ForverMark carrys VG to Ex cut diamonds which make me believe the brand do not focus on Cut like Hearts On Fire.

What are ASET images? What are the things that I should be looking at in the images?

May I ask what are the popular cuts around now?

 

[bedposthalo]

What are ASET images? What are the things that I should be looking at in the images?

May I ask what are the popular cuts around now?

Welcome to the wonderful world of ASET technology!

Edit: Think I should explain alittle more for your benefit

To tell how sparkly your diamond really is, you will need to use the ASET and Ideal Scope. These are the only 2 known light performance scope available to analyze a diamond. Alot of people blindly buy a diamond by just looking at the certificate and proportion. But there still can be alot of problems with the diamond that you won't be able to detect just by looking at the certificate. So this is where all these scopes comes in handy, to show you the light leakages in the diamond, etc.

To put it in simple terms, when you see 2 diamonds, but one sparkles alot more than the other, but they are both are Triple Excellent diamonds. The ASET scope reveals why.

 

[Des126]

What are ASET images? What are the things that I should be looking at in the images?

May I ask what are the popular cuts around now?

As recommended by "bedposthalo", pay a visit to JannPaul for a free education on diamond.

57 facet H&A Round Brilliant is still the most popular now. If you are looking for something extraordinary, "Solasfera", "Cushion Brellia" or "Angel Cut" from JannPaul migh be able to satisfy you.

I would always advise to visit as many jewellers as possible for price, quality and service comparison.

 

[Des126]

What are ASET images? What are the things that I should be looking at in the images?

May I ask what are the popular cuts around now?

The sample image of High Performance is the one that you should look for.

 

[Amplif1er]

Welcome to the wonderful world of ASET technology!

Edit: Think I should explain alittle more for your benefit

To tell how sparkly your diamond really is, you will need to use the ASET and Ideal Scope. These are the only 2 known light performance scope available to analyze a diamond. Alot of people blindly buy a diamond by just looking at the certificate and proportion. But there still can be alot of problems with the diamond that you won't be able to detect just by looking at the certificate. So this is where all these scopes comes in handy, to show you the light leakages in the diamond, etc.

To put it in simple terms, when you see 2 diamonds, but one sparkles alot more than the other, but they are both are Triple Excellent diamonds. The ASET scope reveals why.

Thanks for the concise sharing! I learnt something new today!

As recommended by "bedposthalo", pay a visit to JannPaul for a free education on diamond.

57 facet H&A Round Brilliant is still the most popular now. If you are looking for something extraordinary, "Solasfera", "Cushion Brellia" or "Angel Cut" from JannPaul migh be able to satisfy you.

I would always advise to visit as many jewellers as possible for price, quality and service comparison.

Thanks, will take note. Any idea what is the best ring specifications that I can get with a budget of $7k ?

Forever Mark is a brand name, just like Lazare, Hearts on Fire, etc. In terms of value for money, you won't find any in these brands because you're already paying for their names. I would suggest reading the past pages and doing some research on how to buy a good diamond. If you want a shortcut, you can go to Jannpaul. They give a long education about diamonds. They seem to be the only open and honest company which bothers to fully educate their customers. Most other companies I visited either don't know their stuff or try to feed me nonsense.

Noted with thanks! Appointment needed or I can just drop by?