Proposal Ring - Part 2

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The diamond i bought do have a laser imprint on the diamond itself. When i collect the ring, they will show me the imprint before i make the final payment to ensure that the diamond is the one i paid
 

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The diamond i bought do have a laser imprint on the diamond itself. When i collect the ring, they will show me the imprint before i make the final payment to ensure that the diamond is the one i paid

I mean in the airport le? When you claim GST then need to show the ring. How will they know the ring you show is the correct ring? :s13:
 

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Hey guys. I would like to get a sensing of market prices here.
I got quoted 4.5k for a E colour, vs1, O.63ct GIA cert with triple excellence its from Josi
Sounds like quite an OK deal right? Brilliant cut BTW. Thanks in advance!
 

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Hey guys. I would like to get a sensing of market prices here.
I got quoted 4.5k for a E colour, vs1, O.63ct GIA cert with triple excellence its from Josi
Sounds like quite an OK deal right? Brilliant cut BTW. Thanks in advance!

Did you see the diamond under the other scopes? Cos Triple excellent doesn't guarantee a good diamond.
 

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I mean in the airport le? When you claim GST then need to show the ring. How will they know the ring you show is the correct ring? :s13:

MY friend used his mother ring to make the claim before :s13:
His parents was visiting and he just pass the receipt and gst form to his parents to help him claim, and the mother just show her own ring and just say this was the one bought.. Apparently it works... lol
 

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MY friend used his mother ring to make the claim before :s13:
His parents was visiting and he just pass the receipt and gst form to his parents to help him claim, and the mother just show her own ring and just say this was the one bought.. Apparently it works... lol

Lol... very good idea. :s13:

Anyhow, spent my time at Soo Kee Orchard just noe for a good 1.5hour to know about the basic things in buying diamond. The salesperson shared about Brilliant Rose and Polaris Ice. Due to my GF prefers: not too big diamond, not too high claw, with small diamonds on the ring, I decided to focus on:
- 0.3-0.5ct
- color range G-I
- VS or VVS.

My questions are:
1. I know that Brilliant Rose is established brand (CMIIW). How about Polaris Ice? The salesperson told me that it has stopped producing.

2. What is the reasonable price for above specs? I was given these prices:
Brilliant Rose-0.3ct,F,VS1 costs $2,700 and Polaris Ice-0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc costs $1500.

What do you think guys? Thanks in advance for your opinions. :)
 

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Lol... very good idea. :s13:

Anyhow, spent my time at Soo Kee Orchard just noe for a good 1.5hour to know about the basic things in buying diamond. The salesperson shared about Brilliant Rose and Polaris Ice. Due to my GF prefers: not too big diamond, not too high claw, with small diamonds on the ring, I decided to focus on:
- 0.3-0.5ct
- color range G-I
- VS or VVS.

My questions are:
1. I know that Brilliant Rose is established brand (CMIIW). How about Polaris Ice? The salesperson told me that it has stopped producing.

2. What is the reasonable price for above specs? I was given these prices:
Brilliant Rose-0.3ct,F,VS1 costs $2,700 and Polaris Ice-0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc costs $1500.

What do you think guys? Thanks in advance for your opinions. :)

Polaris Ice Diamonds are mined under extreme conditions deep beneath the magnificent Arctic Lake, Lac de Gras unlike most of the diamonds which from South Africa, Canada or Belgium. To me it is nothing special as the most important thing is still the CUT. If i'm not mistaken they are just common GIA triple excellent diamond.

As for the Brilliant Rose, i do not think it is worth to spend for $2700 for just a 0.3 F VS1. You should be able to get a better spec if you get a Solasfera from JP for the same price if you really like Modified Round Brilliant Cut.

If you are looking for 57 facet Ideal H&A, i believe you should be able to get a much better spec from some private jewellers as recommended in this forum.
 

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Lol... very good idea. :s13:

Anyhow, spent my time at Soo Kee Orchard just noe for a good 1.5hour to know about the basic things in buying diamond. The salesperson shared about Brilliant Rose and Polaris Ice. Due to my GF prefers: not too big diamond, not too high claw, with small diamonds on the ring, I decided to focus on:
- 0.3-0.5ct
- color range G-I
- VS or VVS.

My questions are:
1. I know that Brilliant Rose is established brand (CMIIW). How about Polaris Ice? The salesperson told me that it has stopped producing.

2. What is the reasonable price for above specs? I was given these prices:
Brilliant Rose-0.3ct,F,VS1 costs $2,700 and Polaris Ice-0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc costs $1500.

What do you think guys? Thanks in advance for your opinions. :)

1. The Brilliant rose is a modified round with 66 facets. It's also called the Leo diamond in other countries. If you're looking at the Brilliant Rose, you can try finding the Leo diamond, which is priced much cheaper in other countries.

The polaris Ice is more like a marketing concept.. The selling point is that its mined from Canada.. but there are other diamonds are mined from Canada too. And whether the diamond is from under the artic or dessert, makes no difference. What you want to focus more on is the Cut.
Btw, not all Polaris Ice are triple Exc.

2. IMO, both are overpriced for the quality. You can get a much better quality diamond at the same or even lower price else where. You're paying more for the branding in this case.
 

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Tiffany proposal ring Vs Cartier ring

I shortlist these 2 rings from theses 2 store

Tiffany - 0.72carat, F color, VVS1 (side diamond total about 0.33 carats) = $15,500

Cartier - 0.70 carat, H color, VVS2 (side diamond carats unknown) = $14,000

Which 1 you think is a better buy, considering the brands and diamond spec?

Secondly, would you think is it worth to get a 0.86-0.88carat, either G or H color, VS1 or VS2 for a similar price of around $15k for the Tiffany ring... ( sacrificing the color and clarity to achieve about a 0.13-0.16 carat in diamond size )

Anyone here bought Tiffany engagement ring before?

Do you think it is safe to bring the ring to propose overseas (like to France and Italy), is it able to insure your jewel from theft from travel insurance? Or other kind of insurance.

Thanks.
 

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Hi haven't come in here for a long time since I got my engagement ring fron JannPaul about a year ago.

Just wondering does JannPaul do 4 dian jin or in my case 4 dian zuan. Both my parents and my husband's family aren't picky about it being yellow gold so they told us to get whatever I want. I haven't seen JannPaul made a set yet but since I have seen them making earrings and necklances, can it be done?

Budget around $5-6k.
 
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I shortlist these 2 rings from theses 2 store

Tiffany - 0.72carat, F color, VVS1 (side diamond total about 0.33 carats) = $15,500

Cartier - 0.70 carat, H color, VVS2 (side diamond carats unknown) = $14,000

Which 1 you think is a better buy, considering the brands and diamond spec?

Secondly, would you think is it worth to get a 0.86-0.88carat, either G or H color, VS1 or VS2 for a similar price of around $15k for the Tiffany ring... ( sacrificing the color and clarity to achieve about a 0.13-0.16 carat in diamond size )

Anyone here bought Tiffany engagement ring before?

Do you think it is safe to bring the ring to propose overseas (like to France and Italy), is it able to insure your jewel from theft from travel insurance? Or other kind of insurance.

Thanks.

For that amount of $$, you can easily get a 1ct diamond ring in a non-branded shop. Your paying about 200% more for the brand name. I've bought a 0.4 carat Tiffany ring before for $8.6k. For my upgrade diamond, I managed to get a Super Ideal 0.6 carat diamond somewhere else and nearly half of that price. Plus, my 0.6ct looked more brilliant.. and no one is going to know that is a Tiffany or Cartier ring unless you tell them.

If you're choice is only between those 2, I would avoid the 0.70ct one.
 

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1. The Brilliant rose is a modified round with 66 facets. It's also called the Leo diamond in other countries. If you're looking at the Brilliant Rose, you can try finding the Leo diamond, which is priced much cheaper in other countries.

The polaris Ice is more like a marketing concept.. The selling point is that its mined from Canada.. but there are other diamonds are mined from Canada too. And whether the diamond is from under the artic or dessert, makes no difference. What you want to focus more on is the Cut.
Btw, not all Polaris Ice are triple Exc.

2. IMO, both are overpriced for the quality. You can get a much better quality diamond at the same or even lower price else where. You're paying more for the branding in this case.

Thanks for the response. The Polaris Ice diamond showed to me was triple exc according to the GIA cert. Hope that this cert is reliable.

What would be the reasonable price for this spec: 0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc?
 

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Thanks for the response. The Polaris Ice diamond showed to me was triple exc according to the GIA cert. Hope that this cert is reliable.

What would be the reasonable price for this spec: 0.32ct,H,VVS1,triple-exc?

The GIA cert is reliable.. but a triple exc doesn't mean it's the best Cut. You will need to see the diamond with the scopes to truly tell. I'm wary about diamonds with stories behind them. You end up paying more for the story rather than the quality of the diamond. They're selling point is where the diamond is from, rather than the quality.

I'd recommend going for a higher colour and drop the clarity..
 

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Hi,

I have been looking around a bit. I saw a 0.9ct round brilliant GIA, VS2, VG cut, EX polish and symmetry, no fluorscence, going for $54xx. Its a H color though. Is this worth a closer look?
 

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Please help me to advise on this ring please =)

Hi can I get the pro here to help me check if the specs of this diamond is ok?

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For that amount of $$, you can easily get a 1ct diamond ring in a non-branded shop. Your paying about 200% more for the brand name. I've bought a 0.4 carat Tiffany ring before for $8.6k. For my upgrade diamond, I managed to get a Super Ideal 0.6 carat diamond somewhere else and nearly half of that price. Plus, my 0.6ct looked more brilliant.. and no one is going to know that is a Tiffany or Cartier ring unless you tell them.

If you're choice is only between those 2, I would avoid the 0.70ct one.

I though of that also (paying 200% more, but the I compare those diamond and the setting in lee hwa, SK and gold heart, like not as nice as Tiffany one. If I were to custom made, they can't produce the ring exactly like Tiffany one (crafting of the design)

And for me, I am not so well verse in diamond knowledge.. Scare kena ripped off by those no brand jeweller.


Guys, would you take a 0.86carat diamond with about H color and VS2 is or a 0.72 carat with F color and VVS1 if the price is almost same? Or rather what will the girl like?
 

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Hi,

I have been looking around a bit. I saw a 0.9ct round brilliant GIA, VS2, VG cut, EX polish and symmetry, no fluorscence, going for $54xx. Its a H color though. Is this worth a closer look?

Most of common GIA Triple Ex do have some light leakege if it is a steep and deep cut and you should expect even more light leakage in VG cut. Most of the VG cut have thick girdle, steep crown and deep pavilion which make the diamond looks smaller. For instance a 0.9ct VG cut may have the same diameter size with 0.85 Ideal Cut.

I don think it is worth for consideration. Furthermore it is a H color which will exhibit some yellow tinge due to bad light return.
 
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I though of that also (paying 200% more, but the I compare those diamond and the setting in lee hwa, SK and gold heart, like not as nice as Tiffany one. If I were to custom made, they can't produce the ring exactly like Tiffany one (crafting of the design)

And for me, I am not so well verse in diamond knowledge.. Scare kena ripped off by those no brand jeweller.


Guys, would you take a 0.86carat diamond with about H color and VS2 is or a 0.72 carat with F color and VVS1 if the price is almost same? Or rather what will the girl like?

To be safe try to look for G color at least as most of the time H color do exhibit some yellow tinge especially when compare to colorless diamond like D/E/F.

Have you tried visiting some of the private jewellers as recommended here before? You should visit as many as possible as some of them do have many nice settings which may meet your requirement.
 
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