Proposal Ring - Part 2

[Timperial]

Thanks! Anyway what would be the best credit card to be used for payment for the ring?

Any insights?

Miles card are always the best for big purchases. I think the top 3 are DBS, citi and ANZ

 

[bedposthalo]

anyone can share their opinions on the scope images?
the forth image, the center of the diamond appears greenish. is it suppose to be full red (no light leakage)?

The fourth image (ASET) is normal. The Solasfera should not have white (full light leakage). The green (less light return) is normal.

Congrats on your diamond

 

[bedposthalo]

so which type of shine is best le ??

if i go jp there.. they will use sample show me ??

The Paul from JannPaul has a public FB https://www.facebook.com/paul.hung.779
I think it's open for diamond questions..

He kinda answered your question there.
Quoting him:
Well, to begin the super ideal is 57 facets and the solasfera has 91. The super ideal is basically an ideal cut that has more than 100 requirements to fulfill. Then again, the solasfera is also known as a super ideal because of how strict it's requirements are. I would say the super ideal 57 facets has larger flashes of fire, while the solasfera has smaller but more flashes of fire due to the higher facet count. The solasfera also does appear a tad whiter face up. Performance wise, the solasfera is scientifically the highest performing diamond for a hearts and arrows cut.But then again, some people may find it too busy for their taste, so it all boils down to what you'd like.

anyone can share their opinions on the scope images?
the forth image, the center of the diamond appears greenish. is it suppose to be full red (no light leakage)?

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The answer to your question is there too.
Quoting him:
that centre middle portion of the diamond is simply the bottom, culet section of the diamond reflecting back, the reflection of the underside of the table. A double reflection. when you have a pavilion average angle of 40.768 and above, it's receiving light at a 45 degree angle which appears Red on the Aset. If you have a pavilion angle of below 40.768, it's receiving light from under 45 degrees whereby it appears green. Sometimes, when some angles are a mix of above and under, you get a mix of green and red there is entirely no issue whether this area is red, green or mixed because there is no visual difference at all

 

[J O K E R]

Guys, care to shed some light.
Am I able to get a 0.5ct, colorless, VS range at JP with 2.5~2.7k?

Got a 0.4 vvs1 from them.damages 2.5k

 

[prayhard83]

The fourth image (ASET) is normal. The Solasfera should not have white (full light leakage). The green (less light return) is normal.

Congrats on your diamond

Thanks! So normally what should be looked out for in the images?

 

[spellman]

JP

Guys, Anything wrong with image analysis below? Is it ok?
0.53 E VS2 4k super ideal cut

 

[heruko]

Just got my scope images today. Could you guys help me take a look at these pictures and give me your comment about it?

1) http: //i43.tinypic.com/vhvl5. jpg

2) http: //i40.tinypic.com/v3nmh4. jpg

3) http: //i40.tinypic.com/2r70isj. jpg

4) http: //i40.tinypic.com/dnhzcp. jpg

 

[spLeenfuL]

Just got my scope images today. Could you guys help me take a look at these pictures and give me your comment about it?

1)http://i43.tinypic.com/vhvl5. jpg

2)http://i40.tinypic.com/v3nmh4. jpg

3)http://i40.tinypic.com/2r70isj. jpg

4)http://i40.tinypic.com/dnhzcp. jpg

Help you post

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[limited]

looks like a great diamond you got there!

 

[kaileonard]

Hi all,

I have a quick question. I have a diamond candidate in mind. It has an AGS 0 cut(ideal). However, when I enter the proportions into Holloway, it only scores a 2.5.

Any advice?

 

[Draculav]

Hi all,

I have a quick question. I have a diamond candidate in mind. It has an AGS 0 cut(ideal). However, when I enter the proportions into Holloway, it only scores a 2.5.

Any advice?

I'll pass that diamond... I will aim HCA score to be minimum 1.4 below. HCA score does have it's limitations. If diamond have very low HCA score, you still need to confirm it by using the scopes.. but if a diamond have a high HCA score, it's confirm a chui stone.. cos the basic proportion is already not so good.

Relying only on the certificate only can be a big mistake..

Anyway, for AGS Ideal Cut, that's one of the higher HCA score I've heard of.. this might be one of the bad outlier.

 

[spec116]

anybody buying birthstones?

Any reliable seller/shop/sites selling real gemstones?
not sure whether they will use fake colored stones as birthstones

thinking to get birthstone necklaces

 

[spellman]

What is the ideal diamond table size? Is 58% too high? I heard 55-57% is ideal is it true? I have 58% table size with HCA score 0.7

 

[indoboii]

hi everybody,

im a diamond newbie, really need input from experts in this forum.

went to JannPaul last week and attended by Michelle.

I chose Super Ideal Cut diamond with the following specs:

1.05 VVS2 F $16,200
1.10 VVS2 F $16,800

the questions are :

1. Is it true that price of diamond in JP is fixed (non negotiable)

2. Am I getting the right price for that spec?

hope for your replies. many thanks in advance

 

[spec116]

Hmm or u can use the specs n compare with bluenile diamonds

C worth or nt

hi everybody,

im a diamond newbie, really need input from experts in this forum.

went to JannPaul last week and attended by Michelle.

I chose Super Ideal Cut diamond with the following specs:

1.05 VVS2 F $16,200
1.10 VVS2 F $16,800

the questions are :

1. Is it true that price of diamond in JP is fixed (non negotiable)

2. Am I getting the right price for that spec?

hope for your replies. many thanks in advance

 

[Grizz.P]

Hmm or u can use the specs n compare with bluenile diamonds

C worth or nt

BN and JP are on different level though.. It won't be an accurate comparison. JP is super ideal cuts with the scopes whereas Bluenile is buy blindly with the Cert.

Though some bros have managed to buy BN diamonds from JP before for the same or lower price?? But the quality is diff.

 

[weiwei27]

Hi everyone

Made a visit to JP, white dwarf and Josi Gems over the week.

My first visit was to JP and found that they sell really good diamonds. While the knowledge sharing session is very informative, I felt that there are over-emphasizing on cuts till it seems like a marketing gimmick to me. The diamond image they showed are really impressive but I am more concern about the actual performance of the diamond. while their diamonds also sparkles a lot, I wan to know if there is significant difference in performance between their super ideal diamonds with ideal diamonds sold else where. Hence, I visited white dwarf and josi gems.

White dwarfs and Josi Gems diamonds are very nice as well. Though the aset scope image at white dwarf and the H&A image at Josi Gems might not be as nice as JP, both me and my gf cant tell any difference in performance when looking at the actual diamond at these 3 stores. More importantly, the price is much lower at Josi Gem and white dwarf. (about $1.5k difference for 0.6ct, VS2, G, H&A). Personally, I felt that JP suits people who are looking for the perfect diamond (under the scope) while Josi Gems and white dwarf are more value for money. In addition, the diamond setting at JP is also more expansive. Was quoted $1200 at JP and $800 at Josi Gem and White Dwarf for the same setting. While I can understand their diamonds are super ideal (only noticeable under the scope) and hence the premium, wasn't quite happy that their setting was 50% more ex than other shops (guess there is no such thing as super ideal setting =P)..

Have read some bad review on white dwarf, but personally I felt they served me very well. Very knowledgeable and always willing to share. White dwarf does have their WD ideal series of diamond where the aset image are comparable to JP super ideal series. However, kelvin from white dwarf is honest enough to share that there is actually not much point getting a WD ideal instead of their standard ideal diamonds because the difference in performance is insignificant at all.

Josi Gems give me a homely feeling. The owner Simon is very sincere and not pushy at all. Another good thing is Simon is open to sourcing diamond for you without any deposit.

Hope my experience might be useful to other bros.

 

[indoboii]

thanks for the replies people. can we negotiate price in JP after they quote us certain amount?

 

[Draculav]

Hi everyone

Made a visit to JP, white dwarf and Josi Gems over the week.

My first visit was to JP and found that they sell really good diamonds. While the knowledge sharing session is very informative, I felt that there are over-emphasizing on cuts till it seems like a marketing gimmick to me. The diamond image they showed are really impressive but I am more concern about the actual performance of the diamond. while their diamonds also sparkles a lot, I wan to know if there is significant difference in performance between their super ideal diamonds with ideal diamonds sold else where. Hence, I visited white dwarf and josi gems.

White dwarfs and Josi Gems diamonds are very nice as well. Though the aset scope image at white dwarf and the H&A image at Josi Gems might not be as nice as JP, both me and my gf cant tell any difference in performance when looking at the actual diamond at these 3 stores. More importantly, the price is much lower at Josi Gem and white dwarf. (about $1.5k difference for 0.6ct, VS2, G, H&A). Personally, I felt that JP suits people who are looking for the perfect diamond (under the scope) while Josi Gems and white dwarf are more value for money. In addition, the diamond setting at JP is also more expansive. Was quoted $1200 at JP and $800 at Josi Gem and White Dwarf for the same setting. While I can understand their diamonds are super ideal (only noticeable under the scope) and hence the premium, wasn't quite happy that their setting was 50% more ex than other shops (guess there is no such thing as super ideal setting =P)..

Have read some bad review on white dwarf, but personally I felt they served me very well. Very knowledgeable and always willing to share. White dwarf does have their WD ideal series of diamond where the aset image are comparable to JP super ideal series. However, kelvin from white dwarf is honest enough to share that there is actually not much point getting a WD ideal instead of their standard ideal diamonds because the difference in performance is insignificant at all.

Josi Gems give me a homely feeling. The owner Simon is very sincere and not pushy at all. Another good thing is Simon is open to sourcing diamond for you without any deposit.

Hope my experience might be useful to other bros.

Hmm.. you are looking at 2 different products though. Comparing Super Ideal and Ideal, the price for Ideal will be cheaper.. For bros who are willing to sacrifice the cut, JP does have Ideal cuts to which are cheaper.
(but I think you'll need to request for it since they specialize in Super Ideal) In the past posts, some guys even managed to buy Bluenile's Ideal range from JP at a cheaper price than Bluenile. So it really depends on the quality you want.

Cut is definitely the most important for me. To me getting a diamond is to have it bling as loud as possible (and to show off abit too ). I can see the difference in the quality of Cut for sure.. Being in my field of job, I'm very particular about numbers and performance.

Anyway, I can't say much about the numerous bad reviews about White Dwarf.. I don't think its just about the bad reviews. If you check the past posts, all the accounts that "bought" from WhiteDwarf were either new accounts, hardly any posts, or banned. That says pretty much about it. HWZ admin even posted of an account (Des126) banned because it is from WhiteDwarf. Des126 was talking good things about Whitedwarf and also talk about "how you can't see the difference, etc".

 

[Draculav]

hi everybody,

im a diamond newbie, really need input from experts in this forum.

went to JannPaul last week and attended by Michelle.

I chose Super Ideal Cut diamond with the following specs:

1.05 VVS2 F $16,200
1.10 VVS2 F $16,800

the questions are :

1. Is it true that price of diamond in JP is fixed (non negotiable)

2. Am I getting the right price for that spec?

hope for your replies. many thanks in advance

Bluenile selling their Signature Ideal 1.05 F VVS2 for about SGD 15,500 after tax. (There is a few rocks.. I took the median pricing).

That's a price difference of $700 for JP's Super Ideal Cut.

For the 1.10 F VVS2, Bluenile selling for SGD 16,991 after tax.
JP's Super Ideal 1.10 F VVS2 is cheaper by $200.

Somemore Super Ideal is higher cut grade than Bluenile.

Go for the 1.10 F VVS2 bro!

thanks for the replies people. can we negotiate price in JP after they quote us certain amount?

No harm trying la