Proposal Ring - Part 2

[justme]

hmm so the big 3 in JP are Jann, casey & David?

 

[Requeroth]

hmm so the big 3 in JP are Jann, casey & David?

I'd say Jann and Paul.

When I bought my proposal ring, it was only the 2 of them

I haven't met Casey and David before, but I will soon I guess, considering I'm gonna get my wedding bands done by JP.

 

[Grizz.P]

Apparently they have a their own blog now.. Paul Hung

 

[justme]

for those who went to JP, JP allows us to customize the rings according to our own preferences?

is there extra charges for this?

or do they just charge for the diamond itself?

 

[babyjyo]

for those who went to JP, JP allows us to customize the rings according to our own preferences?

is there extra charges for this?

or do they just charge for the diamond itself?

They sell the diamonds and ring (setting/band) separately. The price of ring depends on how complicated the ring design is.

 

[skate87]

Is it possible to get a below .5ct with JP on a simple 6 prong setting for 3k?
Or would i be better off sticking to vivo and bluenile?

Anyone wanna help me evaluate this? Kinda good deal for 2k and HCA score is great at 1!

Vivo Diamonds - Singapore Diamond Engagement Rings and Wedding Bands Jeweller

Excellent/Ideal-cut, E-color, and VVS1, 0.41ct

Measurements: 4.77 - 4.79 x 2.92 mm
Carat Weight: 0.41 carat
Color Grade: E
Clarity Grade: VVS1
Cut Grade: Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth: 61.1%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 14.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted (3.5%)
Culet: None
FINISH

Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Pinpoint

 

[[GorgeouS]]

Is it possible to get a below .5ct with JP on a simple 6 prong setting for 3k?
Or would i be better off sticking to vivo and bluenile?

Anyone wanna help me evaluate this? Kinda good deal for 2k and HCA score is great at 1!

Vivo Diamonds - Singapore Diamond Engagement Rings and Wedding Bands Jeweller

Excellent/Ideal-cut, E-color, and VVS1, 0.41ct

Measurements: 4.77 - 4.79 x 2.92 mm
Carat Weight: 0.41 carat
Color Grade: E
Clarity Grade: VVS1
Cut Grade: Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth: 61.1%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 14.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted (3.5%)
Culet: None
FINISH

Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Pinpoint

Do you have the Ideal, aset, hearts and arrows scope of the diamond? A low HCA score does not mean anything without the scope pictures.. It can still be a badly cut diamond.

I saw your link. Those are stocks that are not inter inventory. They're just diamond lists taken from people all over the world.. If you try searching that diamond, a few different websites sells that diamond as well (same GIA number).

This means that they have never even seen this diamonds themselves... so its kinda like a middleman.. and you won't be able to see the diamonds with the scopes..

 

[skate87]

Oh dear didn't know that! Thanks for the info!

So it means I have to get Vivo to send me the related scope images? (assuming they even have it on hand)

Does Blue nile practice that too?

Dun really know what to do now haiz...and JP apparently has a long waiting list

 

[BoulevardLim]

Hmm.. I read on JP's blog about this scope pictures scam thing where the diamond pictures you see are not really your diamonds.
Paul Hung: Buyers: Beware

I saw some posts on flowerpod forum talking about it..
Let's Share Some Price Awareness About Your Diamond Ring - Flowerpod Forums - Beauty, Makeup, Skincare, Health, Lifestyle, Entertainment, Love & Relationships

 

[skate87]

Hmm.. I read on JP's blog about this scope pictures scam thing where the diamond pictures you see are not really your diamonds.
Paul Hung: Buyers: Beware

I saw some posts on flowerpod forum talking about it..
Let's Share Some Price Awareness About Your Diamond Ring - Flowerpod Forums - Beauty, Makeup, Skincare, Health, Lifestyle, Entertainment, Love & Relationships

Yeah thanks for that. I read that earlier in the day as well.

Guess I'll try my luck and mail JP to see if my 3k budget can get anything decent from them.

 

[sweetthinker]

This is the Tiffany i got before

I wasn't happy that the diamond was not of the best quality that I was hoping for, my wife found the diamond was too small, end up we got one more from Jannpaul.

The funny thing we both notice is that jannpaul diamond is whiter, even the color is lower. It's possible to see from the pictures too. My camera cannot capture the sparkles but in real life the jannpaul diamond is much more sparkly and looks just more clean, like you can see all the cutting much clearer.

 

[Kimmjio]

Sweetthinker, how bout doing a video under the sunlight with the 2 rings?

 

[skate87]

Just mailed JannPaul and got just about instant email confirmation for appointment! Excited! These guys are super efficient! impressed!

 

[IdunlikePhone]

This is the Tiffany i got before
I wasn't happy that the diamond was not of the best quality that I was hoping for, my wife found the diamond was too small, end up we got one more from Jannpaul.

The funny thing we both notice is that jannpaul diamond is whiter, even the color is lower. It's possible to see from the pictures too. My camera cannot capture the sparkles but in real life the jannpaul diamond is much more sparkly and looks just more clean, like you can see all the cutting much clearer.

Hi sweetthinker,

Can I know does your damage for the JP ring inculdes the setting?

 

[sweetthinker]

Sweetthinker, how bout doing a video under the sunlight with the 2 rings?

I don't know how to take a video properly though... but I can take more photos if you want..

This photo that I took was under the sun

Hi sweetthinker,

Can I know does your damage for the JP ring inculdes the setting?

The total damage for the JP ring was $4,900 including the setting.

 

[144_genting]

Hi Sweethinker whats the cutting for your ring from JP. is it triple excellent?

 

[Kimmjio]

Hi Sweethinker whats the cutting for your ring from JP. is it triple excellent?

Super ideal is triple excellent.

 

[144_genting]

Super ideal is triple excellent.

Thanks kimmjio!

btw sweetthinker, the cut is it the hearts and arrows cut?

 

[sweetthinker]

Hi Sweethinker whats the cutting for your ring from JP. is it triple excellent?

It is more than a triple excellent. They used the ideal scope to look out for light leakages in the diamond... aset scope to look out for painting/digging girdles and the hearts and arrows scope to see the symmetrical hearts. All these factors is not shown on the certificate.. so it is very risky just to buy a diamond with the certificate only.

What I like about them is that they try to teach you how to buy a diamond.. like avoiding those whole number carat size, like 0.40ct and stuff. There is alot more in buying a diamond than just the branding or certificate.

- Yeah, it is a hearts and arrows cut

 

[CeleronD]

triple ex usually will have some form of hearts and arrows cut.
its good to know the 4Cs, the HCA score, see it under the idealscope and compare it to another diamond
however, the most important bottomline is: you don't want to pay too much for a stone.
the rough "value" can be calculated in the washington diamond calculator. HCA scores will up and down the value a little.
set a budget, then go for what you want. if you like size, sacrifice some clarity or the cut. if you like nice reflectivity, you can give up a little on color. most people can't tell the difference between a D and G or an IF and VS2. But they can tell the difference between 1 and 1.2 carats

So if you diamond is worth, say 5k on the market but you paid 15k for it(profits/costs/brand names etc) then thats lousy value.
But if its worth 6k and you paid 7k for it, then thats much better.
a diamond is a STONE. there is NO difference whether you buy the same stone from Soo Kee, Larry or import from Blue Nile. Say 2 stones are the same. 1.02C, F VS2 tripleEx. One has HCA of 1.3 with a perfect H&A and the other has HCA of 1.8 with asymmetrical H&A and minor light leakage. But the first cost 17k while the second cost 12k. I would choose the second.

So before you decide on HCa, heart and arrows, idealscope and the 4Cs, ask yourself the most important question: Am I getting fair value for my money?