Proposal Ring - Part 2

[jhchoo85]

How abt a super ideal cut 0.7ct F Vs2 3xE at $5.5k, 0.58ct G vs1 2xE, symmetry very good at $3.6k, 0.71ct E SI2 3xE at $4.5k the flaws is at the edge... Which of this is a better buy? Thanks..

Usually SI stones have black spots and cracks that are obvious to our naked eye, strongly not advisable. Most SI stones have feathers inclusion landing near the edge of the diamond. Crystal or clouding black spots are extremely obvious in my opinion as I have seen them before and it is very distracting..

Besides, certain inclusions etc. feather involves risk of potential chip or worsening of cracks down the years. I wouldn’t take that risk.

When it comes to buying diamonds, the goal/focus is definitely to get a sparkly/brilliant one..

The Super Ideal Cut has the tightest proportions in terms of symmetry/alignments/Hearts & Arrows hence they can do a perfect job in returning immerse amount of light back to us, making the diamond sparkly and brilliant.

Personally, I wouldn’t bother looking at non Super Ideal Cut Diamonds, cause they just can’t perform. I hope this helps

 

[TurkMan]

0.48 carat Solasfera? Nice size dude!

requoting my old post:

I'll get the Solasfera if it was me... Diamond is meant to bling.. so might as well go maximum bling

but thats just me

For me is always Solasfera, no 2 ways about it.

I like how it is 100% light return and 0% light leakage

 

[shawnlau]

Just contacted Kelvin. See below for your reference

GIA 5126977073 0.76ct E SI1 3EX H&A - SGD4980
GIA 1139338641 0.75ct E VS2 3EX H&A - SGD5750

Kelvin from? Cos the 0.7ct F Vs2 3Ex is $5.5k with setting wo..

 

[BoulevardLim]

How abt a super ideal cut 0.7ct F Vs2 3xE at $5.5k, 0.58ct G vs1 2xE, symmetry very good at $3.6k, 0.71ct E SI2 3xE at $4.5k the flaws is at the edge... Which of this is a better buy? Thanks..

Sharing what I learnt from the pros here so far.

1. Avoid flat carat size diamond, if you do happen to chip your diamond, it’d fall to the 0.69 category, hence you would lose out on the value of the diamond.

2. I would not consider a VG symmtery diamond simply because a non-symmetrical diamond would not have evenly distributed scintillation despite scoring well on HCA.

More about symmetry:
Paul Hung: The Super Ideal Diamond: Symmetry

Like jhchoo mentioned, I too feel SI clarity is very distracting and it's not cool having to worry about chipping off or noticing the black spots all the time

 

[Des126]

Kelvin from? Cos the 0.7ct F Vs2 3Ex is $5.5k with setting wo..

i got my wife upgarded ring from Kelvin. He is the manager from White Dwarf. Very friendly and nice guy.

White Dwarf

I also agreed with Boulevardlim that it is always advisable not to get 0.7ct for the same reason highlighted by him.

I am not sure if the price of SGD5750 already inclusive of setting. Perhaps you can call him to verify.

I checked the price from Bluenile for reference and found that the difference between 0.7ct F VS2 3Ex and 0.75ct E VS2 3Ex can be difference by SGD1k. Based on this i personally feel that 0.75ct E VS2 3EX is more worthy compare to 0.7ct F VS2 3EX.

 

[shawnlau]

i got my wife upgarded ring from Kelvin. He is the manager from White Dwarf. Very friendly and nice guy.

White Dwarf

I also agreed with Boulevardlim that it is always advisable not to get 0.7ct for the same reason highlighted by him.

I am not sure if the price of SGD5750 already inclusive of setting. Perhaps you can call him to verify.

I checked the price from Bluenile for reference and found that the difference between 0.7ct F VS2 3Ex and 0.75ct E VS2 3Ex can be difference by SGD1k. Based on this i personally feel that 0.75ct E VS2 3EX is more worthy compare to 0.7ct F VS2 3EX.

Thanks for your help..

 

[babyjyo]

Hi guys,

my colleage just brought a 0.61 vs1 G 3EX HCA1.3 for 5k and is thinking of letting it go. Is it a good deal?

Thanks in advance!

I find this on a high side. Perhaps, check with some private jewellers in Singapore on their current price?

 

[Des126]

I find this on a high side. Perhaps, check with some private jewellers in Singapore on their current price?

Agreed. The price is steep.

I guess the price should be less than 4k if get from private jewellers.

 

[1000smiles]

Hey guys i chanced upon this forum and gotten myself the scopes to test out my diamonds but i can’t make out anything from these images, it is way far off from the pictures that can be found on web and here

Couldn’t find anything that is similar to these images for comparison at all
i think i’ve gotten myself a lousy diamond? …ugh…
Any pros can help?

 

[Des126]

Hey guys i chanced upon this forum and gotten myself the scopes to test out my diamonds but i can’t make out anything from these images, it is way far off from the pictures that can be found on web and here

Couldn’t find anything that is similar to these images for comparison at all
i think i’ve gotten myself a lousy diamond? …ugh…
Any pros can help?

Do you have the certificate number? This is definitely not a Ideal H&A.

Where did you get this diamond from?

 

[Des126]

Do you have the certificate number? This is definitely not a Ideal H&A.

Where did you get this diamond from?

If this is a 57 facet round brilliant then the lower girdle facet % must be close to 90% instead of Ideal % of 75 - 78%

 

[Des126]

He said he got it from JP for 5k+ including the settings recently and is not making any profit from me as something went wrong in his R/S. So it is not a good buy for me?

In this case this is JannPaul Super Ideal H&A. I think the combination of F VS2 would be better compare to G VS1.

I thought he supposed to give some discount instead of "Not making any profit"

 

[Des126]

lol, he is quite emo so I didn't ask for discount. He told me it is already discounted at a price of 5.3k as he got it for more. The specs cant be change as he has already got the ring.

0.61 G VS1 Super Ideal HCA 1.3.

If 5.2k is a good buy I may get it. Please help.

I dont think this is a good buy unless you really want to help him.

I agreed with babyjyo that we should always check with a few private jewellers for the price and quality first.

 

[Des126]

Even if it is a JP super ideal? How much would be gd? 5k? Furthermore, I am only interested in the diamond, not the setting.

If i'm not mistaken our bro here did mention that the setting itself already cost about SGD600 plus for a classic 18k white gold. Did he sell you the stone only? i doubt so.

If you really like JannPaul Super Ideal, i would advise you to pay them a visit to know in detail about the current price. Furthermore you can choose your own setting you like.

If you are looking for bigger size for the same budget then you can visit a few more private jeweller for price & quality comparison. I would only recommend those provide aset scope for inspection unless you have your own set of aset scope. You might be able to get an Ideal H&A for a much lower price than Super Ideal.

 

[Des126]

So, 4.9/4.8k for that stone is not worth it at all? given the current pricing for Super Ideal diamonds? Thanks. maybe he kana Chop at JP. now even sadder buy a stone for nth.

If i'm not mistaken, the current price is lower compared to 3 months back.

I like the ideal of one of our bro here that make JP as the last stop of viewing as the chances to get from JP is the highest. After you have visited some jewellers then you will know if it is worth for what you have paid for a Super Ideal at JP.

 

[swirlsurfer13]

So, 4.9/4.8k for that stone is not worth it at all? given the current pricing for Super Ideal diamonds? Thanks. maybe he kana Chop at JP. now even sadder buy a stone for nth.

TBH, I doubt he got chopped at JP. Many bros have bought their stones from them and you can be assured of the quality of JP's diamonds. Browse through the thread and you will find numerous images of the ASET scope and H&A analysis of JP diamonds. All look pretty darn good IMO.

As suggested by Des126, you should head down to JP yourself to check out the prices of the diamond. Furthermore, you're only interested in the rock alone, might be more worthwhile to get it straight from them with your own preferred setting.

 

[jhchoo85]

TBH, I doubt he got chopped at JP. Many bros have bought their stones from them and you can be assured of the quality of JP's diamonds. Browse through the thread and you will find numerous images of the ASET scope and H&A analysis of JP diamonds. All look pretty darn good IMO.

As suggested by Des126, you should head down to JP yourself to check out the prices of the diamond. Furthermore, you're only interested in the rock alone, might be more worthwhile to get it straight from them with your own preferred setting.

Like what swirlsurfer13 had mentioned, JP's quality control is assured.
I think it'll be good for you to have an appointment with JP to get a clearer picture on the prices before any decision made.

Afterall you're not getting any discount from your friend.

 

[paulgian]

quote:Hey guys i chanced upon this forum and gotten myself the scopes to test out my diamonds but i can’t make out anything from these images, it is way far off from the pictures that can be found on web and here

Couldn’t find anything that is similar to these images for comparison at all
i think i’ve gotten myself a lousy diamond? …ugh…
Any pros can help?[/QUOTE]

i was informed of this post when someone bumped me to view this picture.

sorry dude, this most probably isn't a diamond. get it appraised and you'll get answers. Where did you buy this "diamond"?

 

[DawnMin]

Hey guys i chanced upon this forum and gotten myself the scopes to test out my diamonds but i can’t make out anything from these images, it is way far off from the pictures that can be found on web and here

Couldn’t find anything that is similar to these images for comparison at all
i think i’ve gotten myself a lousy diamond? …ugh…
Any pros can help?

What you have here is a top heavy super high crown angle diamond with a slightly high pavilion angle
Which is sort of the same as a steep deep but instead of leakage at the centre you have the over contrast

The large culet and the way its cut, I'm going to bet this is a very old resold diamond passed down many years

Edit: I think the pavilion angle is extremely high too now that I noticed there's blues around the edges as well. So either the both or pavilion is very high and a small crown. But all indicators of a really poor probably old cut

 

[DawnMin]

If this is a 57 facet round brilliant then the lower girdle facet % must be close to 90% instead of Ideal % of 75 - 78%

Whoever mentioned that was an ideal % for lower girdles? It depends on the table as well as the proportions, brands like hearts on fire favor small lower girdles for higher fire lower brightness