Proposal Ring - Part 2

[Lurker_13]

Hi all, please help to give your comments on below two diamonds. i am choosing it for my engagement ring! Thanks Both Super Ideal Cut , E , VS2,.. just different in carat size. Thanks

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None
Fluorescence None
Clarity characteristics Crystal, Cloud

Depth 60.7 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.0°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.6°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 55%
Lower Half 75%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted, 3.0%
Culet None
Fluorescence None
clarity characteristics Crystal, Cloud, Needle, Feather

Bro, are there scope images of these stones? (can't see what you try to post here) Given the stats above, I would prefer the 1st stone. Need scope images to confirm though..

 

[Seraphic]

Bro, are there scope images of these stones? (can't see what you try to post here) Given the stats above, I would prefer the 1st stone. Need scope images to confirm though..

its a Missy here.
I posted the photos, but not sure why it wasn't up. Its fine when I view it at home.. but unable to view it in ofc now. i will try to do it again by tonight.. too many restricts in ofc network.

 

[Seraphic]

Hi all pro korkor,
Reload with the scope pic. pls let me know if still can't see the pic.
Kindly advise which is a better stone between this two . =)

Hi all, please help to give your comments on below two diamonds. i am choosing it for my engagement ring! Thanks Both Super Ideal Cut , E , VS2,.. just different in carat size. Thanks

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None
Fluorescence None
Clarity characteristics Crystal, Cloud

Depth 60.7 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.0°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.6°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 55%
Lower Half 75%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted, 3.0%
Culet None
Fluorescence None
clarity characteristics Crystal, Cloud, Needle, Feather

 

[collomack]

Need more info bro! Scope images will be helpful..

Anyway, you can't go wrong with JP.. they already filter their stuff for you.

Sorry my bad bros! I've requested the scope images from JP but that will take another 2 days. Meanwhile.. some other info that might help!

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted


Cheers,

 

[hollander]

Sorry my bad bros! I've requested the scope images from JP but that will take another 2 days. Meanwhile.. some other info that might help!


Cheers,

Round Brilliant

0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted

HCA score: 1.2

Is this from their Super Ideal range?

You have a very nice stone here, my only concern is the Star Length which is within the acceptable range but a bit way above the optimal range, clustering would not be an issue I supposed as the Star Length and Lower Half are both within the acceptable range.

Can't wait for the ideal scope and aset images ;-) don't forget the H&A images.

 

[Lurker_13]

Hi all pro korkor,
Reload with the scope pic. pls let me know if still can't see the pic.
Kindly advise which is a better stone between this two . =)

Confirm my preference for stone no. 1.
Indulge me, do you happen to also have the scope for the hearts?

 

[collomack]

Hi all, many thanks for the replies!

Fickle-minded me went down again today and finally narrowed down to the following 2 stones. Sorry for the lack of scope images as JP can only provide them to me in 2 days… I hope these info below will help in the meantime!

Stone 1: Round Brilliant, 0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

HCA score: 1.2

AGS
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted


Stone 2: Round Brilliant, 0.51 cts, E, VS2

Measurements: 5.10 – 5.13 x 3.16 mm

HCA score: 1.3

GIA
Cut Grade: Excellent
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Cloud Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56.0 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Medium to slightly thick (faceted) 3.5%


Both are from their Super Ideal range and I’m so vexed over choosing between these 2! Can I trouble bros here for an advise, considering that Stone 2 (0.51 cts) cost $500 more..

Many thanks once again!

Cheers,

 

[Lurker_13]

Hi all, many thanks for the replies!

Fickle-minded me went down again today and finally narrowed down to the following 2 stones. Sorry for the lack of scope images as JP can only provide them to me in 2 days… I hope these info below will help in the meantime!

Stone 1: Round Brilliant, 0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

HCA score: 1.2

AGS
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted


Stone 2: Round Brilliant, 0.51 cts, E, VS2

Measurements: 5.10 – 5.13 x 3.16 mm

HCA score: 1.3

GIA
Cut Grade: Excellent
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Cloud Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56.0 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Medium to slightly thick (faceted) 3.5%


Both are from their Super Ideal range and I’m so vexed over choosing between these 2! Can I trouble bros here for an advise, considering that Stone 2 (0.51 cts) cost $500 more..

Many thanks once again!

Cheers,

sorry bro... what is the inclusions for stone 1 ar?

 

[hollander]

Hi all, many thanks for the replies!

Fickle-minded me went down again today and finally narrowed down to the following 2 stones. Sorry for the lack of scope images as JP can only provide them to me in 2 days… I hope these info below will help in the meantime!

Stone 1: Round Brilliant, 0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

HCA score: 1.2

AGS
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted


Stone 2: Round Brilliant, 0.51 cts, E, VS2

Measurements: 5.10 – 5.13 x 3.16 mm

HCA score: 1.3

GIA
Cut Grade: Excellent
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Cloud Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56.0 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Medium to slightly thick (faceted) 3.5%


Both are from their Super Ideal range and I’m so vexed over choosing between these 2! Can I trouble bros here for an advise, considering that Stone 2 (0.51 cts) cost $500 more..

Many thanks once again!

Cheers,

For me, I will still go for the 1st stone, size wise. Color E is on the top range but Color G is really good enough. Then save your $500 for the ring settings or some other things ;-)

Side by side .53x is really bigger than .51 comparing to a flat .50 ;-)

 

[collomack]

Many thanks for your replies!

Hi bro Lurker_13, from the AGS cert it seems like there are some clusters of clouds at the side of the diamond.

Hi bro hollander, yes it was quite obvious actually when i placed the 0.534 and 0.51 side by side! The only thing I'm concern is the colour range, which falls under G for the 0.534 one.

 

[hollander]

Many thanks for your replies!

Hi bro Lurker_13, from the AGS cert it seems like there are some clusters of clouds at the side of the diamond.

Hi bro hollander, yes it was quite obvious actually when i placed the 0.534 and 0.51 side by side! The only thing I'm concern is the colour range, which falls under G for the 0.534 one.

If you are very particular with the color then go for E. Go with what your heart desires ;-)

But by the naked eye, can you see the difference between E and G? not everyday that the ring/diamond be placed side by side with a D,E or F color for it to be compared.

 

[Seraphic]

Confirm my preference for stone no. 1.
Indulge me, do you happen to also have the scope for the hearts?

Ok, will upload soon.
May I know what make you favour 1st stone than 2nd?
i tot 2nd stone hv more red = more light return ????
pls teach me.. my first time getting a diamond =D TIA!

 

[saintgtril]

Thanks Lurker! I am just concerned if i am getting a diamond that stretch my dollars.

Thanks UpperCut! Please help me to understand better, where do you see the particles?

Any other thoughts or comments will be appreciated! Just want to be certain before i commit on this diamond!

Bro, looks like a nice stone.

I would be expecting a little less particles even for a VS2.
You might wanna have a relook at the diamond itself to make sure the particles cannot be seen with the naked eye

Hi all,

This is my very first time getting a diamond and i am not certain if i am getting something that is worth its price. What do the experts think of its grade? Any comments, analysis or thoughts will be very much appreciated!

Diamond type: Super Ideal Cut
0.551 F VS2
AGS 104063713024

Damage: $3900 (include GST)!

 

[bedposthalo]

Hi all pro korkor,
Reload with the scope pic. pls let me know if still can't see the pic.
Kindly advise which is a better stone between this two . =)

In terms of Cut, both diamonds are truly super ideal cuts.. This is where you'll need to use your eyes as a deciding factor.. For the VS2, if it is eye clean, it won't be a concern

 

[bedposthalo]

Round Brilliant

0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted

HCA score: 1.2

Is this from their Super Ideal range?

You have a very nice stone here, my only concern is the Star Length which is within the acceptable range but a bit way above the optimal range, clustering would not be an issue I supposed as the Star Length and Lower Half are both within the acceptable range.

Can't wait for the ideal scope and aset images ;-) don't forget the H&A images.

For GIA, their star and lower lengths go by "5" ranges.. Eg. 45,50,55,60, etc.. If the star length is 52%, GIA rounds it down to 50% if it is 58%, they round it up to 60%.

For AGS, they don't round up or down the figures.. so far star length 53% and lower half 78%, on GIA it would become 55% star length and 80% lower half. That will still be in the star and lower optimal combo..

 

[bedposthalo]

Hi all, many thanks for the replies!

Fickle-minded me went down again today and finally narrowed down to the following 2 stones. Sorry for the lack of scope images as JP can only provide them to me in 2 days… I hope these info below will help in the meantime!

Stone 1: Round Brilliant, 0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

HCA score: 1.2

AGS
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted


Stone 2: Round Brilliant, 0.51 cts, E, VS2

Measurements: 5.10 – 5.13 x 3.16 mm

HCA score: 1.3

GIA
Cut Grade: Excellent
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Cloud Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56.0 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Medium to slightly thick (faceted) 3.5%


Both are from their Super Ideal range and I’m so vexed over choosing between these 2! Can I trouble bros here for an advise, considering that Stone 2 (0.51 cts) cost $500 more..

Many thanks once again!

Cheers,

If it helps, I know some girls are fuss over the color DEF is in the Colorless grouping and GHIJ is in the Near colorless grouping. I'm not sure if 0.02ct will have an obvious difference.. but for me, I remember I could see a difference between a E and G color

 

[zeally]

Stone 1 is definitely the top choice.
For value-added purchase, get stone 1.
Stone 1 has lower depth and higher carat weight which means larger stone with better spread. the difference in size would be noticeable by the naked eye but not obvious.

Colour wise is not important as G is still very much colourless. The gemologists would have to compare it with higher colour stones side by side to see the difference. Under normal viewing circumstances, there is no difference at all. (I never bothered about colour at all so long it is not in the K or below). The beauty of a diamond depends on its cut. In this case, both look similar on paper. I would choose the bigger one anytime, especially if it is bigger.

Spend the 500 on the ring, it is more worth-it.

Hi all, many thanks for the replies!

Fickle-minded me went down again today and finally narrowed down to the following 2 stones. Sorry for the lack of scope images as JP can only provide them to me in 2 days… I hope these info below will help in the meantime!

Stone 1: Round Brilliant, 0.534 cts, G, VS2

Measurements 5.22 - 5.26 x 3.22 mm

HCA score: 1.2

AGS
Cut Grade: AGS Ideal 0
Light performance: AGS Ideal 0
Polish: AGS Ideal 0
Symmetry: AGS Ideal 0

Depth 61.4 %
Table 55.4 %
Crown Angle 34.4°
Crown Height 15.2%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 53%
Lower Half 78%
Girdle Thin to Medium, Faceted


Stone 2: Round Brilliant, 0.51 cts, E, VS2

Measurements: 5.10 – 5.13 x 3.16 mm

HCA score: 1.3

GIA
Cut Grade: Excellent
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Cloud Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Depth 61.8 %
Table 56.0 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Medium to slightly thick (faceted) 3.5%


Both are from their Super Ideal range and I’m so vexed over choosing between these 2! Can I trouble bros here for an advise, considering that Stone 2 (0.51 cts) cost $500 more..

Many thanks once again!

Cheers,

 

[zeally]

In terms of Cut, both diamonds are truly super ideal cuts.. This is where you'll need to use your eyes as a deciding factor.. For the VS2, if it is eye clean, it won't be a concern

VS2 would be eye clean 99% of the time. Especially if your stone is <1 carats.

 

[KamiyaHaine]

IMO, I would look for a third stone if I'm not in a hurry. I can see the color in G even when it's presented alone. Mine MUST be a D-F colorless, even if it meant going for smaller stones, which I did, btw. I would rather have a stone that looks perfect visually than one which is slightly bigger & (imo) imperfect.

Sure, many people won't be able to see the color by itself when it's alone, but when the girls start comparing...... She may not mind but some people are nasty enough to harp on it & make her feel bad.

Something my godmother said last weekend really stuck me. She didn't receive a proposal ring, and when my godfather finally bought her a solitaire, he gave her one that every man & woman would envy. A 1.5ct, D, VVS or better, triple E (from HK, where they seem to really know their stuff). It is obscenely huge on her tiny fingers. She said, "He will only give me the best." I feel the same about my FI. He's giving me the best he can at this point in our lives.

In the other direction though, I would have been happy even if he proposed with a glass bead on a stainless steel ring. =) It's the person that counts, not the rock. I have to say I'm quite vainly & selfishly happy that he didn't though. He got me a rock in a size that is big for my age group & he emphasized gives him leeway for an upgrade later on. XD I chose one that is slightly under .5 for the price savings & so I can wear it on a daily basis. At my age, anything more is too much.

In other news, when I was in HK, I saw someone wearing a huge but lifeless diamond. D= The first thing that ran through my mind was what a waste of money that was! There was no fire or sparkle to it. When it did reflect light, it flashed halfheartedly in white.

 

[kippei]

Hey guys need some opinions

Just paid deposit for a 0.33cts VS1 D solasfera
I realise the GIA cert is dated October 2011 . Seemed like its a quite old diamond. Do you think I should be worried? Although I seemed to.

Was pleased with the service though so far. Will post the scope images once i receive them. Took the design reference from agete jewellery from Japan. My gf like their sleek designs with small gems.

Let me know if I should post the rest of the attributes.
Thank you