Proposal Ring - Part 2

[Grizz.P]

Hello guys, JP just sent me e images of e 0.53 E VS2. Similarly, there is inclusion on this piece too.
Btw e prices:
0.53 G VS2 - $3,550
0.53 E VS2 - $3,950
0.55 F VS2 - $3,950

Which one you getting?

 

[kendrick272]

If i have to choose, at least a E or F.

 

[S1rius]

Which one you getting?

Hmm.. Still considering, more slanted towards e 0.55 but e inclusion kinda makes me feel uneasy. Ha! Guess that i will make a trip down to JP to take a look.

 

[limited]

Ya me too.. I would choose the .55 one if the scope images are good. Can't really tell the difference between a E and F. Unless you're really sensitive to shades of colours. And well.. Since you're already paying for a super ideal.. Might as well make it visually pleasing too! =p

 

[ange1yn]

I wonder if Ange1yn would honor us with some images of the diamond showing its fluorescence. Maybe some shots in direct/indirect sunlight and some in UV light? I'm sure other members would love to see it

I don't have the diamond yet. Will share the flourescence when it has been presented to me

 

[wacko]

before taking the plunge, will be nice to know what the more knowledgeable think of this...

Proportions
Depth 62.0 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 55%
Lower Half 75%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet None

 

[phamth]

Need advice

Hi experts,

Today i went to to look for a ring and there are two choices that i'm considering:

1) 0.41 D VS2 GIA 5156235755

2) 0.40 F VS2 GIA 5156533592

The second one is $200 cheaper. May i have your advice which ones is better?

Thanks.

 

[Grizz.P]

Hi experts,

Today i went to to look for a ring and there are two choices that i'm considering:

1) 0.41 D VS2 GIA 5156235755

2) 0.40 F VS2 GIA 51565335592

The second one is $200 cheaper. May i have your advice which ones is better?

Thanks.

I would avoid the 0.40 one.. A 0.39 can cost much cheaper and you won't be able to tell a difference for a 0.01 diff. If I had to pick one, I'll take the 0.41 D VS2. For $200, u can upgrade to the best color..

 

[phamth]

I would avoid the 0.40 one.. A 0.39 can cost much cheaper and you won't be able to tell a difference for a 0.01 diff. If I had to pick one, I'll take the 0.41 D VS2. For $200, u can upgrade to the best color..

Thanks for your advice, but I'm kind of confuse here. The first one has HCA score of 1.7 Ex/Ex/Ex/VG while the second one is 1.5 Ex/Ex/VG/VG. So HCA score cannot be used to compare the light performance, right?

 

[dixonmason]

Hi guys.. would like to know what makes JP diamond engagement rings so popular in this forum. Cuz i saw the rings from bluenile and bluenile (in my opinion of cuz) seems cheaper yet the settings and diamind specs are compareable if not a little bit better than JP. Of cuz dont talk abt the free washing and resize the rings since JP is physical store and brick. But bluenile is online. What makes JP stand out here? Their diamonds are also certified same as bluenile's. Would appreciate any expert comments cuz its a big investment here for our special one. Your comments are much appreciated

Ps: for the price of a 0.45 vs1, g from jp I can get a 0.56 vvs1, d or f from bluenile. Both same est pricing, excellent cut and decent settings.

 

[Draculav]

Hi guys.. would like to know what makes JP diamond engagement rings so popular in this forum. Cuz i saw the rings from bluenile and bluenile (in my opinion of cuz) seems cheaper yet the settings and diamind specs are compareable if not a little bit better than JP. Of cuz dont talk abt the free washing and resize the rings since JP is physical store and brick. But bluenile is online. What makes JP stand out here? Their diamonds are also certified same as bluenile's. Would appreciate any expert comments cuz its a big investment here for our special one. Your comments are much appreciated

Ps: for the price of a 0.45 vs1, g from jp I can get a 0.56 vvs1, d or f from bluenile. Both same est pricing, excellent cut and decent settings.

There is a difference in term of the quality both places offer. Bluenile only sells Ideal diamonds whereas JP sells Super Ideal. When making a comparison, you need to compare the same quality too.

From a past quotation, a Super Ideal from JP 0.41ct F VS1 is about $2.5k.
If you compare with Bluenile's Signature Ideal cut 0.56 E VVS1 that you used an example, it is SGD3,910.. after factoring GST it's $4,180. That's about a $1.7k different bro.

Unless it's not a triple Excellent diamond with Excellent in Cut only? or Fluorescence?

Either way, when you buy from Bluenile, you can only make your judgement based on the certificate. And there's tons of things the certificate doesn't reveal.. Eg. light leakages, symmetrical hearts/arrows, etc. Some diamonds can be brown, which won't be reflected on the certificate too.. these are part of the risks when buying online.

If you factor in the free re-sizing and re-plating services JP offers, it actually comes up to a good deal. Not to mention the customization works of design JP does.

 

[Draculav]

Hi experts,

Today i went to to look for a ring and there are two choices that i'm considering:

1) 0.41 D VS2 GIA 5156235755

2) 0.40 F VS2 GIA 5156533592

The second one is $200 cheaper. May i have your advice which ones is better?

Thanks.

Thanks for your advice, but I'm kind of confuse here. The first one has HCA score of 1.7 Ex/Ex/Ex/VG while the second one is 1.5 Ex/Ex/VG/VG. So HCA score cannot be used to compare the light performance, right?

Are those the only 2 diamonds you're considering? I would try to go for one that has HCA score minimum 1.4 with EX/EX/EX/VG

 

[dixonmason]

There is a difference in term of the quality both places offer. Bluenile only sells Ideal diamonds whereas JP sells Super Ideal. When making a comparison, you need to compare the same quality too.

From a past quotation, a Super Ideal from JP 0.41ct F VS1 is about $2.5k.
If you compare with Bluenile's Signature Ideal cut 0.56 E VVS1 that you used an example, it is SGD3,910.. after factoring GST it's $4,180. That's about a $1.7k different bro.

Unless it's not a triple Excellent diamond with Excellent in Cut only? or Fluorescence?

Either way, when you buy from Bluenile, you can only make your judgement based on the certificate. And there's tons of things the certificate doesn't reveal.. Eg. light leakages, symmetrical hearts/arrows, etc. Some diamonds can be brown, which won't be reflected on the certificate too.. these are part of the risks when buying online.

If you factor in the free re-sizing and re-plating services JP offers, it actually comes up to a good deal. Not to mention the customization works of design JP does.

Hi Draculav, ok I see it from your point of view. Thanks for replying and sharing

 

[S1rius]

Hello guys, JP just sent me e images of e 0.53 E VS2. Similarly, there is inclusion on this piece too.
Btw e prices:
0.53 G VS2 - $3,550
0.53 E VS2 - $3,950
0.55 F VS2 - $3,950

Went to JP today & was shown a 0.51 F vs1. In e end, it was e 0.53 vs2 E, VS e 0.51 F vs1. I choose e 0.53 cause of its color, it does has a slight inclusion, which don't seem visible to e naked eye.

Thx everyone for e help & advices! Appreciate much!

 

[plushcatcher]

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[pinkpink86]

Are u guys particular whether the diamond is GIA or AGS certified? Are there any differences between the 2?

And for those who went JP before, I can ask them to send the scope pictures to me for free?

TIA

 

[limited]

There is a difference in term of the quality both places offer. Bluenile only sells Ideal diamonds whereas JP sells Super Ideal. When making a comparison, you need to compare the same quality too.

From a past quotation, a Super Ideal from JP 0.41ct F VS1 is about $2.5k.
If you compare with Bluenile's Signature Ideal cut 0.56 E VVS1 that you used an example, it is SGD3,910.. after factoring GST it's $4,180. That's about a $1.7k different bro.

Unless it's not a triple Excellent diamond with Excellent in Cut only? or Fluorescence?

Either way, when you buy from Bluenile, you can only make your judgement based on the certificate. And there's tons of things the certificate doesn't reveal.. Eg. light leakages, symmetrical hearts/arrows, etc. Some diamonds can be brown, which won't be reflected on the certificate too.. these are part of the risks when buying online.

If you factor in the free re-sizing and re-plating services JP offers, it actually comes up to a good deal. Not to mention the customization works of design JP does.

Unless you're not too particular about the actual looks of a diamond I'd say Bluenile will provide you with a good deal. Considering it can be cheaper. In any case, the term "super ideal" its a marketing standard created by JP to market their stones which have gone through a rigorous selection process. Similarly claimed by Bule Nile and their Signature series. But we won't know Blue Nile's cause we haven't really seem them before. Well if you've gone through enough of the forum, you would have seen multiple scope images of JP's diamonds.

Let your eyes be the better judge on quality. =]

Are those the only 2 diamonds you're considering? I would try to go for one that has HCA score minimum 1.4 with EX/EX/EX/VG

Any HCA score less than 2 would be worth considering, cause the HCA tool is used as a gauge from Tolkowsky Ideal Cut. So therefore there is a range. Going with the HCA tool and the grading from GIA or AGS can give you a multitude of combinations!

I think scope images would be the best to determine the quality of the diamonds.

Are u guys particular whether the diamond is GIA or AGS certified? Are there any differences between the 2?

And for those who went JP before, I can ask them to send the scope pictures to me for free?

TIA

I think they only send scope images when you pay a deposit. No reason to send you scope images I think, cause that would kinda spoil their business if people just undercut them for equal quality gems. But I may be wrong.

GIA and AGS are just two separate grading associations. Only thing to note is that they are consistent and provide reasonably accurate gradings. The more important thing to note is the range of each their categories to fully understand the impact on your diamond!

 

[pinkpink86]

GIA and AGS are just two separate grading associations. Only thing to note is that they are consistent and provide reasonably accurate gradings. The more important thing to note is the range of each their categories to fully understand the impact on your diamond!

Thanks for the reply. Any suggestions on what type of Clarity characteristics i should avoid?

 

[d3vilstarz]

Hi Guys ,

Cant decide on my mind

JP Quoted

0.51 F VS2 Price: $3650 (inc GST, exc setting)
0.47 G VS1 Price: $3650 (inc GST, exc setting)

For Super Ideal diamonds

Stress

 

[hollander]

Hi Guys ,

Cant decide on my mind

JP Quoted

0.51 F VS2 Price: $3650 (inc GST, exc setting)
0.47 G VS1 Price: $3650 (inc GST, exc setting)

For Super Ideal diamonds

Stress

Bro that's two different diamond having the same price

Definitely I will go for the .51 F VS2 ;-)