Proposal Ring - Part 3

[NoTimeToWaitAr]

More Qns for Guru;
- Assume All hearts and arrows the same (90% ideally same)
- Assume ASET also almost same (90% ideally same)

Given the below option, what is your stand (1. All-in price prior to deduction 2. All are within budget 3. Value for $ ) ?

Gems from multiple places;
$6,192 0.71 G VVS2 (Cloud, Pin Point)
GIA 5196459116 HCA - 2.8 (All 4 Factors: Very Good)
Florescent : Faint

$5,845 0.7 G VS1 (Crystal, Cloud, Feather , Pin Point)
GIA 6191865901 HCA - 2 (3 factors: Very Good, Fire Excellent)
Florescent : Faint

$7,100 0.71 G VS2 (Crystal, Needle, Feather)
GIA 5171744271 HCA - 0.9 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$7,150 0.68 E VS1
GIA 1172835790 HCA - 0.7 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$6,100 0.67 F VS2
HCA - Below 1.5
Florescent : None

since all are within budget, i will choose > $7,150 0.68 E VS1

 

[reluctance]

More Qns for Guru;
- Assume All hearts and arrows the same (90% ideally same)
- Assume ASET also almost same (90% ideally same)

Given the below option, what is your stand (1. All-in price prior to deduction 2. All are within budget 3. Value for $ ) ?

Gems from multiple places;
$6,192 0.71 G VVS2 (Cloud, Pin Point)
GIA 5196459116 HCA - 2.8 (All 4 Factors: Very Good)
Florescent : Faint

$5,845 0.7 G VS1 (Crystal, Cloud, Feather , Pin Point)
GIA 6191865901 HCA - 2 (3 factors: Very Good, Fire Excellent)
Florescent : Faint

$7,100 0.71 G VS2 (Crystal, Needle, Feather)
GIA 5171744271 HCA - 0.9 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$7,150 0.68 E VS1
GIA 1172835790 HCA - 0.7 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$6,100 0.67 F VS2
HCA - Below 1.5
Florescent : None

Depends on what she prefers (size?) vs how sensitive to colour? I wont take the first and second. The other 3 depends on scope.

 

[dearmisterj]

More Qns for Guru;
- Assume All hearts and arrows the same (90% ideally same)
- Assume ASET also almost same (90% ideally same)

Given the below option, what is your stand (1. All-in price prior to deduction 2. All are within budget 3. Value for $ ) ?

Gems from multiple places;
$6,192 0.71 G VVS2 (Cloud, Pin Point)
GIA 5196459116 HCA - 2.8 (All 4 Factors: Very Good)
Florescent : Faint

$5,845 0.7 G VS1 (Crystal, Cloud, Feather , Pin Point)
GIA 6191865901 HCA - 2 (3 factors: Very Good, Fire Excellent)
Florescent : Faint

$7,100 0.71 G VS2 (Crystal, Needle, Feather)
GIA 5171744271 HCA - 0.9 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$7,150 0.68 E VS1
GIA 1172835790 HCA - 0.7 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$6,100 0.67 F VS2
HCA - Below 1.5
Florescent : None

On contrary to reluctance above, I would not go for 1 and 2. Florescent is an absolutely no no for me, as it will make the diamond appear milky and kinda "dirty".. loses the shine. I am quite sensitive to color so I would either go with 4 or 5, depending on how the scopes look. If both 4 and 5 are of super ideal quality, I will go with 5. Are any of these diamonds from JP? I got my octagon (0.644 F VS2) from JP for $5.6k, quite similar in specs to that last diamond you have there.

 

[mero_cwj]

More Qns for Guru;
- Assume All hearts and arrows the same (90% ideally same)
- Assume ASET also almost same (90% ideally same)

Given the below option, what is your stand (1. All-in price prior to deduction 2. All are within budget 3. Value for $ ) ?

Gems from multiple places;
$6,192 0.71 G VVS2 (Cloud, Pin Point)
GIA 5196459116 HCA - 2.8 (All 4 Factors: Very Good)
Florescent : Faint

$5,845 0.7 G VS1 (Crystal, Cloud, Feather , Pin Point)
GIA 6191865901 HCA - 2 (3 factors: Very Good, Fire Excellent)
Florescent : Faint

$7,100 0.71 G VS2 (Crystal, Needle, Feather)
GIA 5171744271 HCA - 0.9 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$7,150 0.68 E VS1
GIA 1172835790 HCA - 0.7 ( 3 factors: Excellent, Spread: Very Good)
Florescent : None

$6,100 0.67 F VS2
HCA - Below 1.5
Florescent : None

Will not select 1 or 2 because of fluorescence and high HCA.

Out of 3, 4 and 5, you need to check ASET or Idealscope images, but if they are all similar/equal, I would pick either the 0.68 E/VS1 (if you prefer a higher graded stone) or the 0.67 F/VS2 (to save some cash if you don't mind a VS2 clarity, since VS2 is almost always eye clean).

 

[marclgw]

Depends on what she prefers (size?) vs how sensitive to colour? I wont take the first and second. The other 3 depends on scope.

Alright Thanks.

On contrary to reluctance above, I would not go for 1 and 2. Florescent is an absolutely no no for me, as it will make the diamond appear milky and kinda "dirty".. loses the shine. I am quite sensitive to color so I would either go with 4 or 5, depending on how the scopes look. If both 4 and 5 are of super ideal quality, I will go with 5. Are any of these diamonds from JP? I got my octagon (0.644 F VS2) from JP for $5.6k, quite similar in specs to that last diamond you have there.

Last 3 stones are from JP. I believe your octagon was a steal then at that price.

Will not select 1 or 2 because of fluorescence and high HCA.

Out of 3, 4 and 5, you need to check ASET or Idealscope images, but if they are all similar/equal, I would pick either the 0.68 E/VS1 (if you prefer a higher graded stone) or the 0.67 F/VS2 (to save some cash if you don't mind a VS2 clarity, since VS2 is almost always eye clean).

Thanks for your 2 cents, not looking into components that eyes cannot differentiate

 

[chocolate&cookies]

Alright Thanks.

Last 3 stones are from JP. I believe your octagon was a steal then at that price.

Thanks for your 2 cents, not looking into components that eyes cannot differentiate

Hi! Just to share, I also would not take 1 and 2 due to florescent. I would not take 3 cos i can see the colour difference (maybe cos it wasnt set on a ring yet). Would take 5 instead of 4 because i think 5 is more value for money. I feel that the jump in grades whose results we may not be able to see with our naked eyes does not justify the much higher price. However, i think looking at the scope images is more impt though.

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[sharlotteweee]

BIG THANK YOU TO CONTRIBUTORS HERE!
Learnt a lot this past few months
Based on the findings from bros here, I know that JP diamonds are the best around and of good value!

Hoot a 0.71 carrot F VS2 super cut from them
This was my fiance ring the mom bought for her last time 0.51 carrot Ideal cutting also same price as my 0.71 carrot super ideal cut..

For that same price, I managed to get a bigger and much more sparkly diamond. When I compare them, the difference of 0.2ct is quite big. Maybe it's also because the 0.7ct one is a better cut.
Sparkle wise, the 0.7ct wins handsdown. Its much much more shiny.

my video =P

I din expect the difference between super ideal and ideal to be so obvious. Then again, I dunno whether my MIL kenna ketuk.. she said she was only told it was the best cut (Ideal) and wasn't shown the scopes.. oh well.

Moral of the story - Spend more $$ doesn't mean the diamond is better. Learn and check if the diamond is a good cut yourself and check them with the scopes. If I didn't come across this forum and learn from you guys, I would probably just ended buying off buying blindly from those jewellery shops.

 

[ilyanas]

BIG THANK YOU TO CONTRIBUTORS HERE!
Learnt a lot this past few months
Based on the findings from bros here, I know that JP diamonds are the best around and of good value!

Hoot a 0.71 carrot F VS2 super cut from them
This was my fiance ring the mom bought for her last time 0.51 carrot Ideal cutting also same price as my 0.71 carrot super ideal cut..

For that same price, I managed to get a bigger and much more sparkly diamond. When I compare them, the difference of 0.2ct is quite big. Maybe it's also because the 0.7ct one is a better cut.
Sparkle wise, the 0.7ct wins handsdown. Its much much more shiny.

my video =P

I din expect the difference between super ideal and ideal to be so obvious. Then again, I dunno whether my MIL kenna ketuk.. she said she was only told it was the best cut (Ideal) and wasn't shown the scopes.. oh well.

Moral of the story - Spend more $$ doesn't mean the diamond is better. Learn and check if the diamond is a good cut yourself and check them with the scopes. If I didn't come across this forum and learn from you guys, I would probably just ended buying off buying blindly from those jewellery shops.

Congratulations! What was the damage?

 

[Secretyt]

Can I ask what is your fiance's ring size?

BIG THANK YOU TO CONTRIBUTORS HERE!
Learnt a lot this past few months
Based on the findings from bros here, I know that JP diamonds are the best around and of good value!

Hoot a 0.71 carrot F VS2 super cut from them
This was my fiance ring the mom bought for her last time 0.51 carrot Ideal cutting also same price as my 0.71 carrot super ideal cut..

For that same price, I managed to get a bigger and much more sparkly diamond. When I compare them, the difference of 0.2ct is quite big. Maybe it's also because the 0.7ct one is a better cut.
Sparkle wise, the 0.7ct wins handsdown. Its much much more shiny.

my video =P

I din expect the difference between super ideal and ideal to be so obvious. Then again, I dunno whether my MIL kenna ketuk.. she said she was only told it was the best cut (Ideal) and wasn't shown the scopes.. oh well.

Moral of the story - Spend more $$ doesn't mean the diamond is better. Learn and check if the diamond is a good cut yourself and check them with the scopes. If I didn't come across this forum and learn from you guys, I would probably just ended buying off buying blindly from those jewellery shops.

 

[sharlotteweee]

Congratulations! What was the damage?

Diamond was abt $7k.

 

[sharlotteweee]

Can I ask what is your fiance's ring size?

Her ring size is 13

 

[Flaming]

Her ring size is 13

is this HK size?

 

[swalk21]

Got a .71 G vs1 carat for 6700 without settings . Super ideal.

Thanks for the information sharing in this thread.

 

[audi918]

hi! noob here and would like to get some opinion. currently helping my bro back home buy a ring, budget is max of 2.5k only, prefer between 0.3-0.5 carat only
currently considering ff rings:

citigems pure love range- 0.36 H VS1, hca =1.7 about $2k, GIA cert.
sokee true love range - 0.31 F SI, hca=1.3 about $2.1k, IGI cert

any comments, recommendation which is better?

i read that IGI cert not that strict & consistent compared to GIA, is true?

read a lot abt jannpaul here, can get anything at 2.5k there all in?

 

[dearmisterj]

hi! noob here and would like to get some opinion. currently helping my bro back home buy a ring, budget is max of 2.5k only, prefer between 0.3-0.5 carat only
currently considering ff rings:

citigems pure love range- 0.36 H VS1, hca =1.7 about $2k, GIA cert.
sokee true love range - 0.31 F SI, hca=1.3 about $2.1k, IGI cert

any comments, recommendation which is better?

i read that IGI cert not that strict & consistent compared to GIA, is true?

read a lot abt jannpaul here, can get anything at 2.5k there all in?

im sure they have something at JP for you.. just email them and let them know your budget, and let them advise what is the most feasible plan. you can try enquiring about their ideal cut vs the super ideal, which really shaves a whole lot off the price with not much visible difference in the diamond

 

[KinoChoco]

I din expect the difference between super ideal and ideal to be so obvious. Then again, I dunno whether my MIL kenna ketuk.. she said she was only told it was the best cut (Ideal) and wasn't shown the scopes.. oh well.

Moral of the story - Spend more $$ doesn't mean the diamond is better. Learn and check if the diamond is a good cut yourself and check them with the scopes. If I didn't come across this forum and learn from you guys, I would probably just ended buying off buying blindly from those jewellery shops.

Congratz! Your MIL's 'ideal' is probably just a normal AGS Ideal cut and not the JP's 'ideal' standard.

For JP's super ideal vs JP's ideal comparison in a normal photo-taking session it will look the same.

Moral of the story - wants a good and cost effective diamond, must definitely check out JP

 

[KinoChoco]

hi! noob here and would like to get some opinion. currently helping my bro back home buy a ring, budget is max of 2.5k only, prefer between 0.3-0.5 carat only
currently considering ff rings:

citigems pure love range- 0.36 H VS1, hca =1.7 about $2k, GIA cert.
sokee true love range - 0.31 F SI, hca=1.3 about $2.1k, IGI cert

any comments, recommendation which is better?

i read that IGI cert not that strict & consistent compared to GIA, is true?

read a lot abt jannpaul here, can get anything at 2.5k there all in?

Pure Love/True love is around JP's Ideal standard, I'm pretty sure you can get something around 0.35-0.4 with 2.5k for an ideal and with better color/clarity than your 2 mentioned diamonds.

 

[sharlotteweee]

is this HK size?

Should be. I know its asian size

 

[sharlotteweee]

Congratz! Your MIL's 'ideal' is probably just a normal AGS Ideal cut and not the JP's 'ideal' standard.

For JP's super ideal vs JP's ideal comparison in a normal photo-taking session it will look the same.

Moral of the story - wants a good and cost effective diamond, must definitely check out JP

Ty.. My MIL one is GIA cert but on the receipt it says ''Ideal cut''. The sales girl back then told her that this is the best cut and only they would have it. She only saw it with the hearts and arrows scope but not the aset scope.

Lucky I saw this thread and learnt about JP

 

[mero_cwj]

Should be. I know its asian size

Yup if it's JP's sizing it should be HK size (cos the ring crafting is actually done in HK).

But I've come across various size charts for which the same "HK size" corresponds to different US sizes, so if anyone is intending to give JP the ring size for crafting, better double check it and if possible, bring down a sample ring that is in the correct size for them to measure. Best if if your gf goes along and can take measurements on the spot