Proposal Ring - Part 3

[smileedee12]

Based on my understanding, white spots are better than black spots, and yes, they are definitely able to spot the inclusions if asked, it's just that it's an mutual understanding that ALL ideal cut will have flaws, only Super Ideal would be flawless in terms of scopes and performance.

Yes, there are Ideal cuts without such obvious black spots however, those that are 'clean' usually have other flaws that makes it an ideal instead of super ideal, e.g. the arrows might not be as aligned etc.....hence for ideal cut, you definitely need to compromise on some area.

Super Ideal generally cost about 15% more than Ideal of the same specs, so for a 6k ideal, a super ideal probably is 7k?

As for whether it's worth it, it really depends on individual and it's best if u compare both side by side in person to see if you can notice the extra bling and if u feel it's worth it.

I wonder if it's too much to ask lol.. But might u have a sample of a scope with white spots instead of black? So I kinda know what to look out for :X

What's the difference in terms of performance? Actually, white/black spots just mean light leakage is it?

 

[ilovetoeat]

My colleague just ordered from JP very recently, his is .41 Super Ideal, he says it's 4k? You can call to get a ballpark.

For this carat size I think round or octagon won't look very different so you can consider saving the top up to octagon

Wow 4k Hmm... besides super Ideal, what are the rest of the Cs? A bit out of my budget

 

[KinoChoco]

Wow 4k Hmm... besides super Ideal, what are the rest of the Cs? A bit out of my budget

4k sounds like a super ideal 0.4 with a ring setting with side diamonds, i dont think a 0.4 super ideal diamond alone come close to 4k, more like 3k.

 

[CutiePie84]

Would need some help here. been looking around the internet for awhile and came across this diamond. Any good fellas down here that can help me analyse if its worth the dollar n cents.

GIA cert: 1288787925, 1287007366, 6282807656, 2181357723

Thanks as always.

Can't really analyze the diamonds just like that. It'll be more useful if you have the scopes of them. The cert doesn't wont tell us much about the diamond besides the normal 4Cs and basic proportions. The 4Cs is your individual preference and which you're comfortable with.

From the cert, the diamonds are abit all over the place leh. Some is not triple exc, some got fluorescence, some have v bad proportions. I suggest you research more about the diamonds then decide what you want first. What I can suggest is skip those round number carats like 1.00ct. Try to aim for the 0.9+ or 1+. Some of those diamonds have serious inclusions problems also. Don't get those with inclusions on the sides. Your 1.00ct diamond if chip will fall into the 0.9ct range and lose alot of value.

 

[ilovetoeat]

Anyone ever considered single cut diamonds or diamonds with lesser facets?

My gf maybe interested in a square shaped diamond with less facets and paired with a simple 4 prong rose gold ring with engraving.

Anyone has any ideas on if JP provide such options or where can I go for these types?

 

[theblueark]

Anyone ever considered single cut diamonds or diamonds with lesser facets?

My gf maybe interested in a square shaped diamond with less facets and paired with a simple 4 prong rose gold ring with engraving.

Anyone has any ideas on if JP provide such options or where can I go for these types?

With less facets, you won't get the typical diamond sparkle. What gives the diamond it's special sparkle is it's high refractive index, and the angles it is usually cut to is designed to maximize it. If you don't use the right angles, diamond doesn't look too different from glass, just much more scratch resistant.

If that's what you want then go for it, but seems a bit of a waste of the high refractive index property of diamond, you might as well get something like white sapphire instead.

 

[ilovetoeat]

With less facets, you won't get the typical diamond sparkle. What gives the diamond it's special sparkle is it's high refractive index, and the angles it is usually cut to is designed to maximize it. If you don't use the right angles, diamond doesn't look too different from glass, just much more scratch resistant.

If that's what you want then go for it, but seems a bit of a waste of the high refractive index property of diamond, you might as well get something like white sapphire instead.

I think I am not aiming more for the refractive-ness per say, I fully understand that they might sparkle less but my gf is not looking that much of the bling but more of the elegant and simplistic design. She doesn't like overly fancy or bright stuff.

Would a white sapphire be a significant downgrade in terms of clarity etc?

Again, a total noob in this haha so please expect noob questions.

Thank you for the education!

 

[ilovetoeat]

Okay,

I think I found what I am speaking about. Further, they are man made diamonds which is much more ethical and appeals to my gf Anyone bought an engagement ring from them?

https://www.diamondfoundry.com/collections/engagement-ring-the-emerald-18k-rose-gold

 

[theblueark]

Okay,

I think I found what I am speaking about. Further, they are man made diamonds which is much more ethical and appeals to my gf Anyone bought an engagement ring from them?

https://www.diamondfoundry.com/collections/engagement-ring-the-emerald-18k-rose-gold

Nice, I like the modern design. To answer your question about clarity, the advantage of diamond is that it is ultra scratch resistant, compared to sapphire or cubic zirconia which will likely turn cloudy over time.

Man made diamond usually more clear than natural cos clean lab environments help avoid the creation of natural inclusions.

Another option is silicon carbide (moissanite) which is 2nd in hardness to diamond. They are actually much rarer than diamond (doesn’t occur naturally on earth, only in meteorites), but cheaper (cos of diamond marketing and monopoly). There are a couple of labs making them but not sure if they have in that shape you want.

Edit: I went to check the website of the lab I bought my stone from. They do have the emerald cut you looking for.

 

[ilovetoeat]

Nice, I like the modern design. To answer your question about clarity, the advantage of diamond is that it is ultra scratch resistant, compared to sapphire or cubic zirconia which will likely turn cloudy over time.

Man made diamond usually more clear than natural cos clean lab environments help avoid the creation of natural inclusions.

Another option is silicon carbide (moissanite) which is 2nd in hardness to diamond. They are actually much rarer than diamond (doesn’t occur naturally on earth, only in meteorites), but cheaper (cos of diamond marketing and monopoly). There are a couple of labs making them but not sure if they have in that shape you want.

Edit: I went to check the website of the lab I bought my stone from. They do have the emerald cut you looking for.

Hi, Thanks! Which lab would you be referring to then? Thanks!

 

[throwawaygrad]

4k sounds like a super ideal 0.4 with a ring setting with side diamonds, i dont think a 0.4 super ideal diamond alone come close to 4k, more like 3k.

My bad, he confirmed that it's 3k

 

[theblueark]

Hi, Thanks! Which lab would you be referring to then? Thanks!

I pm you ba.

 

[musicfeng]

Hi all, Anyone bought from Ling Jewellery before? Any idea of their cuts and prices?

 

[mero_cwj]

Anyone ever considered single cut diamonds or diamonds with lesser facets?

My gf maybe interested in a square shaped diamond with less facets and paired with a simple 4 prong rose gold ring with engraving.

Anyone has any ideas on if JP provide such options or where can I go for these types?

Not very common in sg but you can have a look at step cut diamonds like the Asscher, Emerald and Baguette cuts.

If you want a traditional hearts and arrows diamonds, JP has the Brellia

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[bishybashy]

is the ring worth it?

0.61 Carat / D / VS1 / Triple Excellent / HCA score 1.7

4.1k inclusive of setting

 

[1000smiles]

is the ring worth it?

0.61 Carat / D / VS1 / Triple Excellent / HCA score 1.7

4.1k inclusive of setting

No scopes hard to tell bro. The HCA under 1.4 will be better

 

[justbehappy]

Hi guys,

I just got offered by jann paul on the following,

$6K
SIC
Carat 0.61
VS1
E
HCA 1.4
triple excellent
Inclusive of settings

waiting for scope

Is the above spec worth it? thanks!

 

[ilovetoeat]

Not very common in sg but you can have a look at step cut diamonds like the Asscher, Emerald and Baguette cuts.

If you want a traditional hearts and arrows diamonds, JP has the Brellia

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I have decided on these cuts but they aren't readily available in Singapore. Possibly might look at overseas options instead!

Thank you for the heads up!

 

[mero_cwj]

I have decided on these cuts but they aren't readily available in Singapore. Possibly might look at overseas options instead!

Thank you for the heads up!

IIRC house of hung carries some step cut diamonds

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[BlackCube]

is the ring worth it?

0.61 Carat / D / VS1 / Triple Excellent / HCA score 1.7

4.1k inclusive of setting

Hi guys,

I just got offered by jann paul on the following,

$6K
SIC
Carat 0.61
VS1
E
HCA 1.4
triple excellent
Inclusive of settings

waiting for scope

Is the above spec worth it? thanks!

Look at both spec. almost the same.
Price difference of 2k.

Lol.

Quite sure the 4k scope will be chui.

6k from jp sounds about right I think. Super ideal? octagon?