Proposal Ring - Part 3

[marcus_88]

I won't suggest going for D color unless it's dictated by your wife-to-be lah, cause you're paying a higher price for something you can't really tell.

How much are these for?

The Octagon is going for 3.3k, while the SIC is going for 4.5k.

Guess it is time to revisit JP.

 

[GrimReaperAdvant]

Hi,

would like to know if anyone would like to sell off their aset scope and ideal scope.

You can try to DIY http://theandychang.com/diyscopes or buy directly from AGS https://www.americangemsociety.org/page/newhandheldaset

I managed to get mine from carousell then sold it off after using. From my experience, if you're looking for a good light performing one, its very hard to find one from shops that dont have those scopes even if you bring your own.

When I did my rounds, I realized that actually all the shops do know about the ASET scope. But they will either say they dont have it, its not accurate or outdated (funniest excuse) or pretend they don't know what it is. Then when I bring out my own, they get shocked and hesitant to let me use to check their diamonds. Alot of them failed.. some were barely decent but none was the Super Ideal quality.

There's a reason why they dont have or use the scopes. If the diamond is good, they will be more than happy to use the scope to prove that its good.

 

[Mooxie]

Lol the plastic and stuff must be confusing

It's a staff only sales..

Not sure about JP, but based on my knowledge, a pair of PT wedding bands with a 0.2ct uncertified diamond on each band should be around 3K (for a pair).

If you prefer certified, F VS1 will bump up the price to about 4K (for a pair).

 

[Mooxie]

The Octagon is going for 3.3k, while the SIC is going for 4.5k.

Guess it is time to revisit JP.

Yeah, see if they have F colour ones! If you're going for a rose/yellow gold ring, can even consider G. Should be able to get a bigger size for that price.

 

[behling]

Hope this post will help fellow bros (and sis) in their quest for their engagement rings. Without needing to read 1500 pages.

I am following up on my previous post #6455 and #6458

I returned back to JP with the requested specs similar to the diamonds Poh Kim showed me. To make a comparison in viewing.

Take note these (HOH, Poh Kim) are not super ideal cuts. But ideal cuts.

Poh Kim

0.55 E VS2 $3000
0.59 F VS2 $3150
0.61 F VS2 $3400

House of Hung (JP’s branding is their SIC and signature cut diamonds. for the purpose of differentiation, I’ll use HOH’s name instead)

0.53 F VS2 $2950
0.59 E VS2 $3400
0.58 G VS2 $3200

JannPaul (Super Ideal Cut)

0.58 E VS2 $4550

As you can see the ideal cut prices are more or less in the same price range. i managed to view the ideal cut diamonds at HOH with all the necessary scopes and different lighting. ideal, ASET, H&A, Fluorescent/LED/Natural Sun lighting.

Disclaimer: this is my own personal experience, i am not bashing or promoting anyone, neither am i an expert diamond selector or reviewier, im merely a regular joe looking for a diamond for my engagement ring. so before you flame me please take my words as a subjective view rather then biblical truth.

At Poh Kim, only ideal scope and H&A scope instruments are avalible, you will be given the scopes and can see/view all you want arrows, hearts, ideal. however there are no ASET scopes. i did the scopes viewing on a black background. On hindsight i should have done it on a white background as forumer Smileedee12 suggested. reason is because ideal scope done on a black background can mask the quality of the diamond. if there are light leakages the ideal scope image on a black background will show the leakages as a different shade of red rather than white in color thus "hiding" the poor light performance. i am not saying poh kims diamonds have poor light leakages. im just saying i should have done it on a white background.

Went back to HOH/JP was shown the ideal cut diamonds that i requested in comparsion with a similar spec super ideal cut 0.58 E VS2. Each of the ideal cut diamonds has a certain draw back in one area, its either the H&A are not perfect, or the ideal scope arrows are not as contrasting. but to my eyes its only 97/98% compared to a 100% super ideal cut. HOH was very generous to give me all the time i needed to view all the scopes of all diamonds against the SIC one. hoh has also offered to send me all the scope images of the ideal cuts and the SIC one.

After maulling over all the images, going back and forth with my decisions. i finally settled on the 0.59 E VS2 Ideal Cut. $3400. to my eyes i could only find a flaw in the H&A scope with 1 heart being 3% smaller then the rest of the hearts. the ideal scope, ASET scopes were all near flawless very very good. hence i could not bring myself to pay 34% ($1150) more for a Super ideal cut diamond with the same specs when i only see 3% difference in the cut quality of H&A scope difference. Scopes aside unless you tell me which is the SIC i can barely tell them (0.58 SIC vs 0.59 IC) apart. i will not be posting the scopes of my 0.59 E VS2 ideal cut diamond here in public as HOH told me they do not usually take scope photos of their ideal cut, but am grateful they did it for me to make a conscious decision. those who are still interested in how the scopes look for my ideal cut can PM me but I would appreciate you view the scopes for educational purposes I helping you make a decision and not for circulation.

for those who are still in the search for your diamond. i would advice you to first know what you want in terms of clarity carat and color so the store you visit can give you a shortlist of wats avalible. As Forumer GrimReaperAdvant has said get a ASET/ideal/H&A scope so you can make a objective decision yourself.

If after viewing all the scopes and you still cant make a decision, i would just suggest just bite the bullet and pay the premium (if you can afford it lol) to have the peace of mind knowing it has the best of the best cut out there so you wont look back and have any regrets of "wat if...." after making your purchase.

i think we can all agree there is no longer a need to post "help me pick which SIC diamond has a better cut" scope images here already. ALL JP's SIC cut are already 99.9999% 100% perfect in terms of cut. it all boils down to the color clarity and carat that you want. For example if u are left with a decision to pick a 0.8 D VVS1 or 0.97 G VS2 both super ideal cuts both similarly priced, It’s basically a decision of trading color+clarity for carat size or vice versa. I do however know there will be some people who have their preferred table size/ CA / PA. But that’s another story for another post.

I hope this post will be helpful to others in the future.

Cheers all and good luck to all.
Peace.

edited: proper paragraph

 

[H0cusP0cus]

Wow the prices for your HOH diamond is really good! I got offered ideal cut 0.47 G VS1 for $2950 about 3 months ago.

Seeing your price make me regret my decision sia.

 

[behling]

Wow the prices for your HOH diamond is really good! I got offered ideal cut 0.47 G VS1 for $2950 about 3 months ago.

Seeing your price make me regret my decision sia.

cannot compare paper specs. have to see the diamond for yourself. maybe your 0.47 has a better cut and less inclusions.

Regardless, like all things in life, its about timing as well.

cheers

 

[firevn]

Diamond spec

Hi all...........

Can I have your feedback on below diamond please?

imgurdotcom/a/27dJTld

 

[iori12]

so you bought the ideal cut diamond at HOH, i thought HOH setting is 750 instead of 550? they qoute me 750. may i know if i buy e ring from HOH, the, the e ring box will be HOH or jann paul?

I will elaborate further in my future review post. But the short answer is no. Poh Kim is not necessarily cheaper for the diamond price. But the setting is 50% cheaper at Poh Kim.

 

[behling]

I think the setting prices differ between a simple and elaborate or custom design? U could probably ask the sales executive on that. With regards to the box I’m not sure about that.

so you bought the ideal cut diamond at HOH, i thought HOH setting is 750 instead of 550? they qoute me 750. may i know if i buy e ring from HOH, the, the e ring box will be HOH or jann paul?

 

[Mooxie]

Hope this post will help fellow bros (and sis) in their quest for their engagement rings. Without needing to read 1500 pages.

I am following up on my previous post #6455 and #6458

I returned back to JP with the requested specs similar to the diamonds Poh Kim showed me. To make a comparison in viewing.

Take note these (HOH, Poh Kim) are not super ideal cuts. But ideal cuts.

Poh Kim

0.55 E VS2 $3000
0.59 F VS2 $3150
0.61 F VS2 $3400

House of Hung (JP’s branding is their SIC and signature cut diamonds. for the purpose of differentiation, I’ll use HOH’s name instead)

0.53 F VS2 $2950
0.59 E VS2 $3400
0.58 G VS2 $3200

JannPaul (Super Ideal Cut)

0.58 E VS2 $4550

As you can see the ideal cut prices are more or less in the same price range. i managed to view the ideal cut diamonds at HOH with all the necessary scopes and different lighting. ideal, ASET, H&A, Fluorescent/LED/Natural Sun lighting.

Disclaimer: this is my own personal experience, i am not bashing or promoting anyone, neither am i an expert diamond selector or reviewier, im merely a regular joe looking for a diamond for my engagement ring. so before you flame me please take my words as a subjective view rather then biblical truth.

At Poh Kim, only ideal scope and H&A scope instruments are avalible, you will be given the scopes and can see/view all you want arrows, hearts, ideal. however there are no ASET scopes. i did the scopes viewing on a black background. On hindsight i should have done it on a white background as forumer Smileedee12 suggested. reason is because ideal scope done on a black background can mask the quality of the diamond. if there are light leakages the ideal scope image on a black background will show the leakages as a different shade of red rather than white in color thus "hiding" the poor light performance. i am not saying poh kims diamonds have poor light leakages. im just saying i should have done it on a white background.

Went back to HOH/JP was shown the ideal cut diamonds that i requested in comparsion with a similar spec super ideal cut 0.58 E VS2. Each of the ideal cut diamonds has a certain draw back in one area, its either the H&A are not perfect, or the ideal scope arrows are not as contrasting. but to my eyes its only 97/98% compared to a 100% super ideal cut. HOH was very generous to give me all the time i needed to view all the scopes of all diamonds against the SIC one. hoh has also offered to send me all the scope images of the ideal cuts and the SIC one.

After maulling over all the images, going back and forth with my decisions. i finally settled on the 0.59 E VS2 Ideal Cut. $3400. to my eyes i could only find a flaw in the H&A scope with 1 heart being 3% smaller then the rest of the hearts. the ideal scope, ASET scopes were all near flawless very very good. hence i could not bring myself to pay 34% ($1150) more for a Super ideal cut diamond with the same specs when i only see 3% difference in the cut quality of H&A scope difference. Scopes aside unless you tell me which is the SIC i can barely tell them (0.58 SIC vs 0.59 IC) apart. i will not be posting the scopes of my 0.59 E VS2 ideal cut diamond here in public as HOH told me they do not usually take scope photos of their ideal cut, but am grateful they did it for me to make a conscious decision. those who are still interested in how the scopes look for my ideal cut can PM me but I would appreciate you view the scopes for educational purposes I helping you make a decision and not for circulation.

for those who are still in the search for your diamond. i would advice you to first know what you want in terms of clarity carat and color so the store you visit can give you a shortlist of wats avalible. As Forumer GrimReaperAdvant has said get a ASET/ideal/H&A scope so you can make a objective decision yourself.

If after viewing all the scopes and you still cant make a decision, i would just suggest just bite the bullet and pay the premium (if you can afford it lol) to have the peace of mind knowing it has the best of the best cut out there so you wont look back and have any regrets of "wat if...." after making your purchase.

i think we can all agree there is no longer a need to post "help me pick which SIC diamond has a better cut" scope images here already. ALL JP's SIC cut are already 99.9999% 100% perfect in terms of cut. it all boils down to the color clarity and carat that you want. For example if u are left with a decision to pick a 0.8 D VVS1 or 0.97 G VS2 both super ideal cuts both similarly priced, It’s basically a decision of trading color+clarity for carat size or vice versa. I do however know there will be some people who have their preferred table size/ CA / PA. But that’s another story for another post.

I hope this post will be helpful to others in the future.

Cheers all and good luck to all.
Peace.

edited: proper paragraph

Wao, that's a good buy! I'm just curious, what's the reason for choosing the 0.59 E VS2 instead of the 0.61 F VS2 in the end?

 

[Mooxie]

Hi all...........

Can I have your feedback on below diamond please?

imgurdotcom/a/27dJTld

Hello there! How much is the price? The scope looks okay, very minor leaks. To maximize budget, perhaps can try to see if there're any VS1/VS2 pieces or other 3ex pieces.

 

[evelynleebali]

Hi all...........

Can I have your feedback on below diamond please?

imgurdotcom/a/27dJTld

uploaded for you~ this one im not expert. so maybe other experts here can comment. i can only say its very pretty! hahaha

 

[behling]

Primarily because I did not get to see the ASET imagines. Also the rest of the scopes were not near sic. Meaning to say each scope (ideal, hearts and arrows) had 1 or more flaws. In fact at Poh Kim I eliminated the 0.55 and 0.61 from the 3 diamonds given to me to choose.

Wao, that's a good buy! I'm just curious, what's the reason for choosing the 0.59 E VS2 instead of the 0.61 F VS2 in the end?

 

[firevn]

Hello there! How much is the price? The scope looks okay, very minor leaks. To maximize budget, perhaps can try to see if there're any VS1/VS2 pieces or other 3ex pieces.

Hi mooxie, it’s a super ideal cut from JP. The damage is $4300 for the diamond only. Booked since September, dunno if still can change the diamond

 

[firevn]

uploaded for you~ this one im not expert. so maybe other experts here can comment. i can only say its very pretty! hahaha

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Thanks alot for posting the pic

 

[junifiedd]

Hi guys, can I get your honest opinion on whether the diamond below is worth the money?

I was quoted $6,350 (excluding setting)
0.73 E VS1 Ideal Cut (H&A not 100% symmetrical)

 

[ThiamWan]

Hi guys, can I get your honest opinion on whether the diamond below is worth the money?

I was quoted $6,350 (excluding setting)
0.73 E VS1 Ideal Cut (H&A not 100% symmetrical)

Wow.. they’re really strict with their qc man. If you never tell me, I would have thought this was a Super Ideal cut. It’s definitely way better compared to other places standard of “Ideal”.

 

[throwawaygrad]

Haven't seen any finished ring pics in a while anyone has their completed rings to share pls put here haha

 

[thltetek]

Haven't seen any finished ring pics in a while anyone has their completed rings to share pls put here haha

Just as I was about to share my recent finished ring done at JP haha. Just want to say that I'm totally in love and satisfied with the diamond, ring setting, and of course not forgetting, the really pleasant service at JannPaul.

I'd like to give a shoutout to Eugene, Judy/Julie and Joy for their great assistance from the choosing of my diamond, designing of my ring, to the final beautifully crafted ring itself. Eugene was the main person I had liaised with throughout the entire process, but I was served by different staffs throughout as my schedule wasn't able to meet his at times.

Nonetheless, despite that, Eugene is very patient and helpful in guiding me through the whole journey. All in all, a big thumbs up to Eugene for his impeccable service. I'll highly recommend him when you head to JP. I am very happy to receive my finished proposal ring, as I wanted the ring to be special and meaningful for her, and for us.

I'll let the pictures do the talking: