Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Miltah]

I’m curious why you are so adamant on the stones from dropshippers.

U talk about the higher cost of in-house stones by online vendors for a variety of reasons but you fail to admit that they are providing you with more information on the cut quality of the stone (something u rank highly)

And then you talk about possibly upgrading. What then do these dropshippers offer in terms of upgrading? And if not, what then is a realistic selling cost, 50% off? How many jewellers do u know of that will buy back your stone, especially one that they did not sell u...

A quick filter of 0.6 E vs1-2, triple excellent stones from bluenile retail for $2.6-4k. Why then the price variation, would it not perhaps be the fact that there is a difference in cut quality?

Does choosing the cheapest one show that you won’t kena carrot and that’s the true value of the stone? You only have to go back a few hundred pages to see many instances of pple who regretted buying from BN.

You talk about being illogical to get a GIA cert. Is $40 too much to pay?

point stated doesn't constitute to the difference between house stone vs BN WF LX MT

by purchasing the stones to keep in house, a higher markup of the diamond is required due to....

selling is a possibility as some people do upgrade their diamonds over time and also knowing the true value of the diamond without being a carroted is just as important.

 

[smileedee12]

Hi! I just went shopping around and walked into H0H. Intending to propose end year.

0.68CT VS2, Colour E, Triple Excellent with None Fluorescence, Clarity Character of Crystal & Feather. All in at 6,350. Is the price ok? Assuming all scopes look ok. It is an Ideal Cut.

Just want to have a peace of mind of not getting carrot. LOL!! Help plssss thanks!!!

Hi there! I got my 0.72 E VS1 diamond from HOH last year. GIA 228472900. ASET scope in this link https:/ /ibb.co/DtX1bM3 . Diamond was $6280. Ring setting was $1500 cuz I requested for side diamonds and halo haha ;x not sure if this is good reference for you since it was last year but I hope it eases your mind a little.. I wasn't sure of what u meant by all in at 6,350.

 

[loveSalnT]

Hi there! I got my 0.72 E VS1 diamond from HOH last year. GIA 228472900. ASET scope in this link https:/ /ibb.co/DtX1bM3 . Diamond was $6280. Ring setting was $1500 cuz I requested for side diamonds and halo haha ;x not sure if this is good reference for you since it was last year but I hope it eases your mind a little.. I wasn't sure of what u meant by all in at 6,350.

I believe all in refers to price inclusive of ring settings?

 

[Miltah]

Hi there! I got my 0.72 E VS1 diamond from HOH last year. GIA 228472900. ASET scope in this link https:/ /ibb.co/DtX1bM3 . Diamond was $6280. Ring setting was $1500 cuz I requested for side diamonds and halo haha ;x not sure if this is good reference for you since it was last year but I hope it eases your mind a little.. I wasn't sure of what u meant by all in at 6,350.

That’s a very nice stone and ASET

 

[ivantwj]

Hi all, I haven't heard about the Brian Gavin signature diamonds before until recently.

Is it any better than the Whiteflash A Cut Above?

And is the diamond in this link below good?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.528-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-c-104104763061#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/

The AGS Cert:
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/diamonds/104104763061/grading-report

Thanks in advance!

 

[Miltah]

Hi all, I haven't heard about the Brian Gavin signature diamonds before until recently.

Is it any better than the Whiteflash A Cut Above?

And is the diamond in this link below good?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.528-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-c-104104763061#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/

Thanks in advance!

I only judge it based on the images provided.
The only reason it does not have ASET and the other typical images/video is cos this stone just got cut and they haven’t got round to it.

Is it better? Years ago, BGD only had signature as their top cut. But just like JP, they started curating their better quality stones into their Black Range. They also tell u it’s cut differently but it’s minute. Look carefully at some of the hearts n arrows in the signature range and u see more variation (but frankly, it’s un-noticeable to the naked eye for me at least)

Brian Gavin used to cut for Whiteflash before he started his own company. Not many cutters have their own company or interact with the public, he’s one of them.

Note, they sometimes have sales on their signature range (5-8% off) and give free postage like during Black Friday or Christmas but never discount their Black range.

Here u got a very nice stone with VS clarity and no inclusions near the edge except for a small crystal on the table. U can ask them to send u the video and aset before deciding.

 

[CutiePie84]

Hi all, I haven't heard about the Brian Gavin signature diamonds before until recently.

Is it any better than the Whiteflash A Cut Above?

And is the diamond in this link below good?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.528-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-c-104104763061#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/

The AGS Cert:
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/diamonds/104104763061/grading-report

Thanks in advance!

This is my take on it for fun. Its like playing photo hunt

3 of the arrows are slightly shifted out of place. I drew a straight blue line from the base of the arrows and where the arrow head tips should have been pointed at.
There's some weird thing going on at the girdle area where I circled in green. Not sure if its a diamond problem or a photograph issue.

The ''V'' shape are in different sizes. The ones I circled are smaller than the rest. I'm assuming that for these reasons, this one fails to meet their better Black range.

 

[Miltah]

Well done
That’s why JP have very tight criteria (both on ASET and symmetry)
Whereas I can tolerate slight symmetry off axis.

This is my take on it for fun. Its like playing photo hunt

3 of the arrows are slightly shifted out of place. I drew a straight blue line from the base of the arrows and where the arrow head tips should have been pointed at.
There's some weird thing going on at the girdle area where I circled in green. Not sure if its a diamond problem or a photograph issue.

The ''V'' shape are in different sizes. The ones I circled are smaller than the rest. I'm assuming that for these reasons, this one fails to meet their better Black range.

 

[ivantwj]

Woah okay! Thanks for your help guys I'll definitely ask for the ASET, and see how it goes Really appreciate it

 

[chikaboomz]

Anyone has any idea why this Black by Brian Gavin's diamond is cheaper than some of the diamonds with smaller sizes :/

https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond-details/bkcags-104100263069

 

[Miltah]

Anyone has any idea why this Black by Brian Gavin's diamond is cheaper than some of the diamonds with smaller sizes :/

https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond-details/bkcags-104100263069

If you are interested, u can place a hold on the stone first then ask them about the price.
If it’s a pricing issue, they will honour their mistake.
But my guess is that the girdle is thin-thin as opposed to thin-medium.

 

[chikaboomz]

If you are interested, u can place a hold on the stone first then ask them about the price.
If it’s a pricing issue, they will honour their mistake.
But my guess is that the girdle is thin-thin as opposed to thin-medium.

Oh thanks for your quick reply, @Miltah! What do you think about its AGS report though?

 

[Miltah]

Oh thanks for your quick reply, @Miltah! What do you think about its AGS report though?

Do u mean the stone’s AGS clarity plot? No feathers on the edge. Cloud and crystal on the table, at VS2 it would be unlikely for u to spot the inclusions without a 10x loupe

Or do u mean AGS vs GIA? Both are top labs, I wouldn’t buy if it’s any other labs. AGS is more cut focused.
If u look back at previous JP SIC, there was a period he was using AGS reports too. Why? Not sure but u still get the full buyback and upgrade that they honour even with AGS certs. As I mentioned earlier, the only issue is if/when u want to sell, there’s a preference for GIA by jewellers

 

[chikaboomz]

Do u mean the stone’s AGS clarity plot? No feathers on the edge. Cloud and crystal on the table, at VS2 it would be unlikely for u to spot the inclusions without a 10x loupe

Or do u mean AGS vs GIA? Both are top labs, I wouldn’t buy if it’s any other labs. AGS is more cut focused.
If u look back at previous JP SIC, there was a period he was using AGS reports too. Why? Not sure but u still get the full buyback and upgrade that they honour even with AGS certs. As I mentioned earlier, the only issue is if/when u want to sell, there’s a preference for GIA by jewellers

I was referring to whether the diamond was worth HAHA.

 

[adibisalemak]

Anyone has any idea why this Black by Brian Gavin's diamond is cheaper than some of the diamonds with smaller sizes :/

https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond-details/bkcags-104100263069

Is HOH Ideal cuts comparable to Black by Brian Gavin?

I calculated the price on the website of the 0.55 G VS2 to be SGD 3125 with tax. I got quoted a HOH Ideal 0.58 G VS2 for SGD 3200 with tax and 0.53 G VS1 SGD 2950 with tax. The 0.58 G VS2 seems to be the best one for size while the 0.53 G VS1 seems to be the best value for price. Is this correct?

 

[Miltah]

Is HOH Ideal cuts comparable to Black by Brian Gavin?

I calculated the price on the website of the
- BGD 0.55 G VS2 to be SGD 3125
- HOH Ideal 0.58 G VS2 for SGD 3200
- HOH 0.53 G VS1 SGD 2950.
The 0.58 G VS2 seems to be the best one for size while the 0.53 G VS1 seems to be the best value for price. Is this correct?

I was referring to whether the diamond was worth HAHA.

Is it worth it? U will have to compare prices. I’m not up to date with the prices of those sizes

$3200 / 0.58 = $5517 per caret
$2950 / 0.53 = $5566 per caret

The 0.58 G is best for size and value. Price per caret is cheaper than the 0.53

If u buying BGD black, it’s almost like buying JP SIC. If you are very particular, then by all means go for the black. But the signature range is good value, which could be comparable to HOH idealcuts. I bought it during the sale period and got further 8% off

 

[KinoChoco]

Is it worth it? U will have to compare prices. I’m not up to date with the prices of those sizes

$3200 / 0.58 = $5517 per caret
$2950 / 0.53 = $5566 per caret

The 0.58 G is best for size and value. Price per caret is cheaper than the 0.53

If u buying BGD black, it’s almost like buying JP SIC. If you are very particular, then by all means go for the black. But the signature range is good value, which could be comparable to HOH idealcuts. I bought it during the sale period and got further 8% off

But i noticed their black series ever since it launched, their quality arent consistent nor as strict as JP super ideal, can easily see some flaw on the ASET, i think the black series is kinda like WF ACA, between high ideal to super ideal range, since he was the cutter for WF...probably he just re-name it to black for his own shop

But in terms of realistically speaking in real life performance, kinda sure there won't be much of a difference between black vs JP SIC that human eye can notice....so if black is cheaper than SIC, go for black, if you're anal on paper/scope perfection...then JP SIC as usual lol.

 

[Miltah]

But i noticed their black series ever since it launched, their quality arent consistent nor as strict as JP super ideal, can easily see some flaw on the ASET, i think the black series is kinda like WF ACA, between high ideal to super ideal range, since he was the cutter for WF...probably he just re-name it to black for his own shop

He’s a 5th generation cutter, but looks pretty old already.
I’m sure he might just do some custom project, the bulk of stones he probably just supervise the cutting

 

[FroztSpectre]

Went to JannPaul today to look look see see.
Cheapest 0.3 carat also hit 2.2k range after setting

Really too atas for me

 

[Miltah]

Went to JannPaul today to look look see see.
Cheapest 0.3 carat also hit 2.2k range after setting

Really too atas for me

There’s always the ideal cuts from HOH or go the online route