Proposal Ring - Part 3

[CutiePie84]

Hi everyone,

Newbie in diamonds here and planning to propose next year. so I'm researching about diamonds now and this forum thread is very helpful.

I would like you guys to help me look at this 2 GIA cert to see if the diamonds are okay for the price.

1) 0.64ct F VS2 $3.46k
2) 0.61ct D VS1 $3.97k

GIA cert images is here: https://imgur.com/a/skGZnPS

Thank you~

Diamond 1 - 0.64ct F VS2
Depth is 63.2% crown is very steep at 36.5. HCA is 2.4
Very deep cut diamond. Will look small and high chances there this is a dud.

Diamond 2 - 0.61ct D VS1
Proportions are terrible. 62.5 depth and 41.4 pavilion angle. I'm pretty sure the diamond will have alot of light leakages. The HCA score is 5.3

Both diamonds are very deep and dont have good proportions. Deep diamonds are often associated in visually appearing smaller. In this case, it will have a visual size of a 0.5ct? The light return wont be good either. Price is cheap but you're getting what you paid for in this case.

 

[CutiePie84]

hey guys, any experts can give review on this scope?

0.7-Carat round Cut G Color VS2 GIA Diamond

Cant tell anything from that bro. Need the scope photos and certificate

 

[Miltah]

hey guys, any experts can give review on this scope?

0.7-Carat round Cut G Color VS2

Even at VS2, there seems to be a dark inclusion on the table..

 

[FroztSpectre]

It depends where the feather are located and usually the risk are more for bigger stones.

I’ll avoid BN’s ideal for sure, no brainer junk, even their BN sig ideal are questionable, going a level below that even just to save 200-300$ makes no sense, you won’t want an awful stone for your special proposal ring.

To me, proposal rings are not special. If i can, i'll just give her a keyring and act as a ring. Then use the cash put in ETFs for her.
But too bad, she will feel sad, although she will be acceptable.
So give and take lor, initially just wanted to get a normal good cut diamond (not even very good) to her, just as 意思意思. Quite surprised i manage to convince myself to spend up to 1.5k already, when initially i wasn't even convinced to spend more than $500.

P.S. I have told her if she die die needs the diamond ring to get married, then byebye. I'm willing to give up that 7 years relationship if she's so naive in thinking diamond ring is 100% required to get married. Wedding is about the goddamn future, not about the stupid ring.

Having said all these, i think in the end i'll still spend 2k on that goddamn ring. Treat it as I'm spending money to buy a collector edition painting lor Worthless to me, but worth alot to some other people.

 

[KinoChoco]

To me, proposal rings are not special. If i can, i'll just give her a keyring and act as a ring. Then use the cash put in ETFs for her.
But too bad, she will feel sad, although she will be acceptable.
So give and take lor, initially just wanted to get a normal good cut diamond (not even very good) to her, just as 意思意思. Quite surprised i manage to convince myself to spend up to 1.5k already, when initially i wasn't even convinced to spend more than $500.

P.S. I have told her if she die die needs the diamond ring to get married, then byebye. I'm willing to give up that 7 years relationship if she's so naive in thinking diamond ring is 100% required to get married. Wedding is about the goddamn future, not about the stupid ring.

To be honest, this perspective can be totally reversed against you also from female point of view that the future Husband not even willing to spruge a little for the proposal bla bla bla hahaha.

But seriously, if it gets to the point that you had to tell her what u said above, both of you seriously needs to re-consider the marriage since based on what you said, the facts already shown that she’s sad over this and u still had to say those words. I can foresee a lot up coming conflicts over money in the near future and even during the wedding preparation itself, also considering the fact that u 2 need to go thru everything while back in both ya head knowing she’s not exactly satisfied with your view and you kind of threatened to end everything for mere couple thousands...and remember that women’s memories are much better than men at remembering such things hahaha.

Everyone’s perspective of spending and value are different...just like how guys might be willing to spend more on certain stuff/gadgets more but to another person, it’s an unnecessary spending too.

 

[throwawaygrad]

To be honest, this perspective can be totally reversed against you also from female point of view that the future Husband not even willing to spruge a little for the proposal bla bla bla hahaha.

But seriously, if it gets to the point that you had to tell her what u said above, both of you seriously needs to re-consider the marriage since based on what you said, the facts already shown that she’s sad over this and u still had to say those words. I can foresee a lot up coming conflicts over money in the near future and even during the wedding preparation itself, also considering the fact that u 2 need to go thru everything while back in both ya head knowing she’s not exactly satisfied with your view and you kind of threatened to end everything for mere couple thousands...and remember that women’s memories are much better than men at remembering such things hahaha.

Everyone’s perspective of spending and value are different...just like how guys might be willing to spend more on certain stuff/gadgets more but to another person, it’s an unnecessary spending too.

I agree. The "cannot then byebye" part is jarring in this thread. I would agree your girlfriend is unreasonable if she wants a 20k ring but for a 4 to 5k kind of budget... it's less than a Chanel bag leh. Diamonds do last a long time. All the more if her friends are all getting normal rings then why insist on giving her something obviously inferior if you can do a bit better?

Do you outearn her by a lot and thus you pay more in expenses? Even so, you need to be mindful because you sound quite condescending and it's bad for relationships. Don't say I'm evil but there are no prenups in Singapore yet, if your wife becomes unhappy in future she can still divorce you and, oh, might even have a claim to your ETFs lol.

Sometimes bro you just got to live and let live. Don't be like other men who argue whether a diamond is a need or a want. Is sex a need? It's not, but guys still want it right...My fiancé would insist it's a need!

 

[ray12323]

Diamond 1 - 0.64ct F VS2
Depth is 63.2% crown is very steep at 36.5. HCA is 2.4
Very deep cut diamond. Will look small and high chances there this is a dud.

Diamond 2 - 0.61ct D VS1
Proportions are terrible. 62.5 depth and 41.4 pavilion angle. I'm pretty sure the diamond will have alot of light leakages. The HCA score is 5.3

Both diamonds are very deep and dont have good proportions. Deep diamonds are often associated in visually appearing smaller. In this case, it will have a visual size of a 0.5ct? The light return wont be good either. Price is cheap but you're getting what you paid for in this case.

What will be the ideal depth and crown angle in this case?

 

[ivantwj]

If it doesn’t work. U can PM me, I can see if I can pull some strings.

Hi Miltah! I’ve dropped you a PM as the lady I’m talking to said there’s no free shipping for BGD at the moment. Hope you can help me check for free shipping

 

[Miltah]

What will be the ideal depth and crown angle in this case?

I have linked this in the past, your best hit rates are crown 34-35, pavilion 40.6-40.9
Depth 60-61.9

 

[Miltah]

To me, proposal rings are not special.

Wedding is about the goddamn future, not about the stupid ring.

Worthless to me, but worth alot to some other people.

You are right that it isnt special and truly worthless to you but it could be priceless and mean the world to her. After all, unlike Chanel handbags, she’s only after 1 ring to devote her life to you.

The godamn future is about discussing things with your other half, sacrifices and compromises.

If you are not keen to spend so much, and it’s just a token, why not just get a 0.2 or 0.25ct? Key being having a discussion...

 

[CutiePie84]

I have linked this in the past, your best hit rates are crown 34-35, pavilion 40.6-40.9
Depth 60-61.9

What will be the ideal depth and crown angle in this case?

Miltah beat me to it! haha.

I'll add abit more..

1. Use those parameters as a baseline to stay within the range. Pavilion 41 and depth 62 is acceptable to me.

2. Use the HCA tool and aim for a low score. The stats can still fall within the parameter but get an overall bad combination.
https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

3. Final step is to use the scopes to confirm. Without the scopes, the proportions are useless.

 

[Miltah]

Miltah beat me to it! haha.

I'll add abit more..

1. Use those parameters as a baseline to stay within the range. Pavilion 41 and depth 62 is acceptable to me.

2. Use the HCA tool and aim for a low score. The stats can still fall within the parameter but get an overall bad combination.
https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

3. Final step is to use the scopes to confirm. Without the scopes, the proportions are useless.

Your answer more comprehensive... lol

 

[ray12323]

Your answer more comprehensive... lol

Thanks all! I'll wait to view the diamond physically and in scope to see if it's acceptable to me or not. If the 0.64ct really look like a 0.5ct visually and it's dull then I'll source further~

 

[KinoChoco]

You are right that it isnt special and truly worthless to you but it could be priceless and mean the world to her. After all, unlike Chanel handbags, she’s only after 1 ring to devote her life to you.

The godamn future is about discussing things with your other half, sacrifices and compromises.

If you are not keen to spend so much, and it’s just a token, why not just get a 0.2 or 0.25ct? Key being having a discussion...

Dont think there’s any room for discussion after that bye bye threat unless she’s really damn nice and naive.

If my partner says that to me I’ll be Long gone already

 

[prisleongsing]

Hi everyone,

Newbie in diamonds here and planning to propose next year. so I'm researching about diamonds now and this forum thread is very helpful.

I would like you guys to help me look at this 2 GIA cert to see if the diamonds are okay for the price.

1) 0.64ct F VS2 $3.46k
2) 0.61ct D VS1 $3.97k

GIA cert images is here: https://imgur.com/a/skGZnPS

Thank you~

Hi ray12323, for the 0.64 F VS2, is the GIA number 7322389547? The proportions looks like the same. Ive been offered this diamond before for $3,200.

This is the Aset scope of it

 

[ray12323]

Hi ray12323, for the 0.64 F VS2, is the GIA number 7322389547? The proportions looks like the same. Ive been offered this diamond before for $3,200.

This is the Aset scope of it

Yes the GIA number is the same. Is the Aset scope good? I don't really know how to see :\

 

[Miltah]

Yes the GIA number is the same. Is the Aset scope good? I don't really know how to see :\

I will run far far away ...
Painting n digging at the corners, light leakage under the table

White = light leakage
1. Yours
2. White dwarf
3. HOH ideal
4. JP SIC

 

[ray12323]

I will run far far away ...
Painting n digging at the corners, light leakage under the table

White = light leakage
1. Yours
2. White dwarf
3. HOH ideal
4. JP SIC

wow thanks so much for the effort in putting the scope together as comparison. I think I'll pay HOH a visit to see their ideal cut diamond instead. it is almost on par with their JP SIC but I don't think I'll need SIC. will want a bigger carat in exchange

 

[Srenz209]

Is Jann Paul inside House of Hung? Why different naming?

 

[Ytangguo]

Hi, can I check if this ring is worth buying?

0.99 carat, G colour, SI2, very good cut

Table 55%
Depth 64.9%
Crown 38.5
Pavilion 39.8