Proposal Ring - Part 3

[new_bie]

Super Ideal Cut
0.60 D VS2

Estimate how much arh?

 

[Miltah]

Not sure if anyone posted this. But has someone consolidated all the custom design for engagement rings?

Would like to see them all!

All the custom job on JPs fb page.
In any case, u can get them to custom anything u see online anyway

 

[Miltah]

Super Ideal Cut
0.60 D VS2

Estimate how much arh?

Roughly in the range of $5-6k

 

[new_bie]

Roughly in the range of $5-6k

wow, so ex meh

 

[rubbadubbaducky!]

Hi guys,

Anyone able to estimate the cost of below trinity ring design? Possible to custom for around 10k? And is cushion cut diamond cheaper than round cut?

 

[jackthejackson]

Anyone has any idea of the decagon or new stocks of octagon from jp?

I’m interested in the Decagon too. Any news so far? Last I read was in a few months or?

 

[Miltah]

wow, so ex meh

JP/ HOH
0.41 F, VS2, $1950 (ideal)
0.31 E, VS2, $1850
0.37 G, VS1, $1950
0.44 G VS1 $2100 (ideal)
0.35 F VS1, $2450 (Solasfera)
0.37 G VVS1, $2400 (Solasfera)
0.45 E VS1 $2300 (ideal)
0.41 D VVS2 $2950
0.41 E VVS1 $2850
0.42 G VVS2 $ 2650
0.43 E VS2 $2750
0.43 D VS1 $3050
0.43 E VVS2 $2900
0.58 G VS1 $3,250 (ideal)
0.56 G VVS2 $3,300 (ideal)
0.58 E VS2 $3,500 (ideal)
0.51 G VVS2 - $3,500
0.54 F VS1 - $3,850
0.58 G VS2 $3850 (ideal)
0.53 E VS1 - $3,900
0.52 D VS2 - $3,850
0.55 E VS1 - $4000
0.55 F VVS2 - $4300
0.52 D VVS2 - $4450
0.63 F VS1 - $4600 (ideal)
0.63 F VS2, $5100
0.71 G VVS2 $5200 (ideal)
0.72 F VS2 $5400 (ideal)
0.60 E, VS1, $5400
0.60 D VS1 $5300
0.62 E VVS2 $5600
0.80 G VS1 $5700 (ideal)
0.74 G VVS2 $5900 (Ideal)
0.77 F VS1 $5950 (ideal)
0.72 F VVS2, $6100 (Ideal)
0.73 E VS1, $6200 (Ideal)
0.75 E VS1 $6150 (ideal)
0.74 G VVS2 $6800
0.72 F, VS1, $7000
0.76 G VS1 $7200
0.77 G VVS2 $7700
0.78 E VS1 $8100
0.60 G VVS1 $6k (Solasfera)
0.60 G VS1, $6k+ (Solasfera)
0.65 E VS1, $7.1k (Solasfera)
0.72 F VS1 $8600 (Solasfera)
0.83 F, VS1, $9300
0.96 G VS1, $10.2k
0.96 E VS2, $10.7k
0.98 F VS2, $10.8k
0.92 F VVS2 $12,400
0.90 E VS1 $12,800
0.95 F VVS2 $13,600
1.01 G, VS1, $14k
1.02 G VS1 - $14,300
1.09 G VS1 - $15,000
1.10 G VVS2 - $15,300
1.05 F VS1 - $15,800
1.01 E VS1 - $16,000
1.21 G VVS2, $18k
1.25 G SI1, $12.9k (*)
1.33 G VS1, $19.1k
1.54 G, VS2, $25k
1.58 G VS1 $26.9k
1.80 F VS1 $39.8k

 

[Miltah]

Hi guys,

Anyone able to estimate the cost of below trinity ring design? Possible to custom for around 10k? And is cushion cut diamond cheaper than round cut?

Anything is possible.

Cushions are theoretically cheaper than rounds but JPs cushion brellia is not cheaper.
Based on your pic, it would need at least a 1 caret n above (as centre stone) for a similar finger converage.

So to keep it under 10k, n get a similar proportion to your pic, u will be looking at an uncerted 0.2c as side stone and 0.6-0.7c as centre stone.
But of course, the finger coverage is smaller.

If u picked 0.3c certified side stones then the cost goes up dramatically n the size of the centre stone also has to go up

 

[maximusw0109]

Hi guys,

Anyone able to estimate the cost of below trinity ring design? Possible to custom for around 10k? And is cushion cut diamond cheaper than round cut?

There are different types of cushion cuts. The most sparkly ones are the cushion brellias from Jannpaul. Compared to the normal cushion diamonds, its way better.

 

[Miltah]

There are different types of cushion cuts. The most sparkly ones are the cushion brellias from Jannpaul. Compared to the normal cushion diamonds, its way better.

Well, there’s normal cushion, super ideal cushion and JPs cushion brellia ...

 

[theisaboy]

wow.. 3 month is very recent indeed. Have you tried on a 1.5ct one?
Yes, they will take the diamond at the original price you bought less 7% GST. Even if you decided to upgrade after a few years, they will still take it at the original price - GST.

And yes, G VS2 is a very good value for money. I can definitely see the color difference between my previous E and my current G, but G is still very white from the top and SIC is super sparkly. I bet no one else would be able to see the difference once it's worn.

In my case, they did not reuse my old setting for my new one because I only gave my old ring and certificate when I collected my new ring. I explicitly requested that as I don't want to have a waiting period where I won't be wearing any e-Ring.
But I guess if you don't mind they can reuse the white gold and the small diamonds pave from your old ring to make a new ring for you and in that case maybe you can negotiate to pay only for the labour cost?

I believe should have quite a few options available for 1.5ct. It's probably harder to find 1.8-1.9ct range but 1.5ct shouldn't be an issue. You can also request for them to check if their cutter have any upcoming diamond currently in production that may fall within your spec. @tostring just got a 1.59ct G VS2 from their recent shipment so I think they should have some other new stocks too.

Who's your Sales person at JP? I found them to be quite responsive and will reply to my email within the same day or H+1 at max

We went by Jannpaul, and took a look at their 1.5-1.9 carat range. It seemed like they didn't have much options for colour G of that size. We were keen on one of the ones shown @ 1.8+ but the table size was a little on the smaller size. We were advised to wait for their next shipment, which would come in at (??). I wonder how long do I have to wait! Given that SIC for 1.5 & above are rather hard to come by

 

[Miltah]

We went by Jannpaul, and took a look at their 1.5-1.9 carat range. It seemed like they didn't have much options for colour G of that size. We were keen on one of the ones shown @ 1.8+ but the table size was a little on the smaller size. We were advised to wait for their next shipment, which would come in at (??). I wonder how long do I have to wait! Given that SIC for 1.5 & above are rather hard to come by

How small is small?

Pple would request for colors n maybe clarity but table size is quite specific. Frankly, I doubt many pple can see the difference of a 1% table size (eg. 55 vs 56%)
Pple often want more fire without realising a smaller table enhances fire while a bigger table more white brilliance. Of cos this is just one factor but u will find that a smaller table is sometimes more sought after

If time is on your side, no harm waiting but if not then perhaps consider your options

 

[theisaboy]

How small is small?

Pple would request for colors n maybe clarity but table size is quite specific. Frankly, I doubt many pple can see the difference of a 1% table size (eg. 55 vs 56%)
Pple often want more fire without realising a smaller table enhances fire while a bigger table more white brilliance. Of cos this is just one factor but u will find that a smaller table is sometimes more sought after

If time is on your side, no harm waiting but if not then perhaps consider your options

It was a table of 56% versus my older one which is 61%. The 61% had more white brillance, you are right about that.

 

[Miltah]

It was a table of 56% versus my older one which is 61%. The 61% had more white brillance, you are right about that.

Oic, yup that is quite obvious
If that’s the case, wouldn’t u want a smaller table for something different?
If it’s a SIC, even with a small table it’s a good balance of fire n brilliance

 

[Hope84]

It was a table of 56% versus my older one which is 61%. The 61% had more white brillance, you are right about that.

@theisaboy: in that case is your previous diamond not a SIC if it has a table of 61%, but then you can upgrade it to a SIC? (just out of curiosity)
If you like the brilliance effect I think maybe you wont prefer the SIC look as All the SIC will have a table of 55-58%.

 

[theisaboy]

@hope84 @miltah
I made a terrible mistake. It was a table size of 58% vs the new 56% one. We are going from a 1.3+ to a 1.8+. We tried it on her hand, and thought that the size did not look significantly bigger for the upgrade price that we were paying. We played with a 1.9 carat (7.99m across) and felt that it looked so much closer than what we wanted. Suspected that the 1.8+ diamond was a little heavier at the bottom. Not too sure, any experts here care to advice?

gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2347553611&s=1580800182513

 

[Miltah]

@hope84 @miltah
I made a terrible mistake. It was a table size of 58% vs the new 56% one. We are going from a 1.3+ to a 1.8+. We tried it on her hand, and thought that the size did not look significantly bigger for the upgrade price that we were paying. We played with a 1.9 carat (7.99m across) and felt that it looked so much closer than what we wanted. Suspected that the 1.8+ diamond was a little heavier at the bottom. Not too sure, any experts here care to advice?

gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2347553611&s=1580800182513

That’s a classic SIC dimension.
It’s on the deeper side of things but still within limits

A smaller table will make the stone look smaller for more fire
A larger table will make it look bigger with more brilliance

 

[theisaboy]

That’s a classic SIC dimension.
It’s on the deeper side of things but still within limits

A smaller table will make the stone look smaller for more fire
A larger table will make it look bigger with more brilliance

How would you know if its a "deep" cut or not? Which value do you refer to? Is it the depth?

 

[Hope84]

@hope84 @miltah
I made a terrible mistake. It was a table size of 58% vs the new 56% one. We are going from a 1.3+ to a 1.8+. We tried it on her hand, and thought that the size did not look significantly bigger for the upgrade price that we were paying. We played with a 1.9 carat (7.99m across) and felt that it looked so much closer than what we wanted. Suspected that the 1.8+ diamond was a little heavier at the bottom. Not too sure, any experts here care to advice?

gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2347553611&s=1580800182513

I think a 0.5ct upgrade should be visible once it’s mounted on a ring
I was having a serious doubt too upgrading from 2 to 2.5ct because I was afraid the upgrade would not be significant enough in terms of size to see the difference, yet as you know upgrading always seem like A LOT of money given the exponential price structure of a diamond as you go up the carat.

But it turned out that the size difference is huge. I could definitely see the difference from 2ct to 2.5ct so an increase from 1.3ct to 1.8ct should be significant. That said, if you feel that the 1.8ct is not large enough, go for the 1.9ct or even the 2ct as otherwise DSS (diamond shrinkage syndrome) will kick in soon enough and you may feel like upgrading again soon after the upgrade.

Like @miltah said, the measurement of the 1.8ct is in line with the standard SIC. It is def not a deep cut diamond. Getting a diamond with x.7 to x.9ct is always a lot harder than a round carat or x.5ct. so if you want a 1.8ct-1.9ct with specific depth it will take a lot more time to find. Which is fine, just require more patience

In my case, I never found anything in the 2.7ct range and up that falls within my spec and after waiting for sooooo long I finally gave up and settled with mine.

 

[Miltah]

How would you know if its a "deep" cut or not? Which value do you refer to? Is it the depth?

The SIC cuts out depth at 61.9% if I’m not wrong. Anything higher is a deep cut but u can see that all these stones are all still within that criteria

If u want the widest stone with the largest face up look, u can look for one that is under 61%.
But u can clearly see from the table that there are only 2 instances. So I hope u really got time waiting if u want something so specific