Proposal Ring - Part 3

[mero_cwj]

I need to show my gf this. We got a F color and it looked whiter than her sister's E color diamond. Maybe its also because of the higher facets (mine is the 88 facets octagon).

Specs on the cert aren't everything... Go some other forums take a look, got a lot of women haolian their 2-3 carat diamonds, but they are so poorly cut and have fluorescence that they look very hazy and completely don't sparkle like a good diamond should!

IMO, prioritise good cut first, then take a minimum of G/H and VS2/SI1 (depending on your tolerance level), then maximise carat weight last.

 

[dnsfpl]

if you are very particular with color, do take note of hue also

place the diamond under white paper to check

http://thediamonddictionary.blogspot.sg/2010/05/color-d-e-f-g.html

 

[dnsfpl]

not sure anyone shared this link

http://thediamonddictionary.blogspot.sg/

 

[Ice.Ice]

if you are very particular with color, do take note of hue also

place the diamond under white paper to check

http://thediamonddictionary.blogspot.sg/2010/05/color-d-e-f-g.html

I remember doing this test in JP. They showed me the diamond upside down on the white paper. I think it depends on the color sensitivity of your eyes too. I couldn't see a difference in G and F but my gf insists she can see. Maybe it's partly psychological. haha. That's why I went for the F for the peace of mind. If not for her, I will got the G.

Specs on the cert aren't everything... Go some other forums take a look, got a lot of women haolian their 2-3 carat diamonds, but they are so poorly cut and have fluorescence that they look very hazy and completely don't sparkle like a good diamond should!

IMO, prioritise good cut first, then take a minimum of G/H and VS2/SI1 (depending on your tolerance level), then maximise carat weight last.

Fully agree with you on this. I believe you can sacrifice on anything but the cut. When my gf wears her ring out, it looks very showy in a good way. She got many compliments from her friends too and they were impressed how sparkly her diamond is.

 

[Sessygurl143]

Went to JP yesterday and was served by Vince. He gave me a very good diamond and casing education. I finally got to experience what all of you guys been sharing.. Very happy with his service. He was very patient and sincere in answering my many qns even though some might some noobish.

I saw their signature diamonds.. solasfera, brella? and the octagon. He showed all of them under different lights and even brought them outdoors without those strong jewelry shop lights for me to see. This really impressed me as it just shows that they have nothing to hide and are confident with their quality. I found the octagon to be the most sparkly of the rest. It's almost on par with the solasfera but sparkles are abit bigger. Needless to say, I chose the octagon

This is the diamond I reserved in the casing I want. It's not set properly yet. Vince just put the diamond on top of the casing to show me the overall effect.

Here is the side view. This is one of the main reason why I chose this design... can see alot of the diamond and the pillars doesn't block the diamond so much. When it is set properly the diamond height will be lower.

I'm thinking of adding more small diamonds at the side part here at the bottom of the main diamond. Sorry for my noob drawing..

This is my attempt at trying to take some artistical shots. haha

The diamond I reserved is a 0.8ct G VS1. I still have an option to change it to a 0.8 F VS1 for $300 more. Do you think I should top up abit for a F? I couldn't see much difference but on the certificate, DEF is in the colorless range and GHIJ is in the near colorless range. So the F will sound and look better on the certificate. You guys think its worth the top up?

I'm planning to use my UOB one card to maximize the cash rebate. FYI, they allowed me to pay my $500 deposit in cash first. When my financial quarter month starts, I can go down and swipe my card and they will return my $500 cash back.

For your customization, why not put the diamonds till the halfway band and stop together with the side diamonds at the top view. It looks more complete I feel. Just a little bit like not here not there leh. haha

 

[Secretyt]

Hi everyone,

Would it be worth to downgrade the diamond (Octagon) from Colour E to F (as I am sensitive to colour G) and Clarity VS1 to VS2? The price difference is $900 and the diamond is of the same size.

 

[mero_cwj]

Hi everyone,

Would it be worth to downgrade the diamond (Octagon) from Colour E to F (as I am sensitive to colour) and Clarity VS1 to VS2? The price difference is $900 and the diamond is of the same size.

Hmm, 900 difference for 1 grade colour and 1 grade clarity is actually okay... Depends on you, if you are happier saving $900 and both diamonds look equally good under the naked eye, then why not? But if you will have the feeling that you "settled" for a lousier diamond, then might as well just pay more for the F VS1 and get piece of mind.

Personally, I would take the F, VS2 and use the savings for a nice platinum setting with side diamonds.

 

[prudencezee]

Hi guys! Just got this from JP.
0.54ct VS1 F Super Ideal $4.2k
Is this a good buy? Really appreciate your help! Thanks!

Hello there! For comparison sake, I was quoted the below at JP:

0.54 G VVS2 $4200
0.54 F VS1 $4150
0.54 E VS1 $4200

Went for the 0.54 E in the end, 'cos the SA said that top up $50 from F to E was worth it

 

[mero_cwj]

Hello there! For comparison sake, I was quoted the below at JP:

0.54 G VVS2 $4200
0.54 F VS1 $4150
0.54 E VS1 $4200

Went for the 0.54 E in the end, 'cos the SA said that top up $50 from F to E was worth it

$50 for one grade up in colour confirm don't need to think, just take

 

[fata1ityz]

Hello there! For comparison sake, I was quoted the below at JP:

0.54 G VVS2 $4200
0.54 F VS1 $4150
0.54 E VS1 $4200

Went for the 0.54 E in the end, 'cos the SA said that top up $50 from F to E was worth it

Wah thanks for the info! Shall ask my SA if able to get the 0.54 E VS1 at that price!

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[Lss]

I remember doing this test in JP. They showed me the diamond upside down on the white paper. I think it depends on the color sensitivity of your eyes too. I couldn't see a difference in G and F but my gf insists she can see. Maybe it's partly psychological. haha. That's why I went for the F for the peace of mind. If not for her, I will got the G.



Fully agree with you on this. I believe you can sacrifice on anything but the cut. When my gf wears her ring out, it looks very showy in a good way. She got many compliments from her friends too and they were impressed how sparkly her diamond is.

mix them up and ask if she can tell for real if she can get it right a few times in a row then she really can see.

 

[naxnaxnax]

mix them up and ask if she can tell for real if she can get it right a few times in a row then she really can see.

Actually, I did the random test myself also. G colour really can see. It's a much starker jump from f to g as compared to e to f. I agonised over this myself as well. The difference in colour is much more noticeable when viewing the diamonds from the bottom, not so much from the top.

 

[KinoChoco]

Actually, I did the random test myself also. G colour really can see. It's a much starker jump from f to g as compared to e to f. I agonised over this myself as well. The difference in colour is much more noticeable when viewing the diamonds from the bottom, not so much from the top.

Bottom confirm can see la....some more is using the preferred environment and lighting to view color.

Realistically comparison should only be on the top and a bit of the side since for bigger diamond as most setting can still see the side of it and on a natural environment and not with a piece of white background behind

 

[Secretyt]

[/QUOTE]Realistically comparison should only be on the top and a bit of the side since for bigger diamond as most setting can still see the side of it and on a natural environment and not with a piece of white background behind [/QUOTE]



I am not sure if its just me, but when I was given colour E and G (set on a ring), and not knowing which is G and which is E, without white background. I am able to identify which is of a lower grade.

I know that it can be due to me knowing one is of it is of a lower grade, should I not know, I think I won't be able to identify.

 

[ComeOnYouSpurs]

300 only? upgrade it to F color.

Personally i'll upgrade G color to E/F if the price is within 300-500 (if your stone is bigger than 0.7).

If budget permits, i will top up $300 for the F. Its once in a lifetime purchase. Just go for it!

Then again, from a human eyes, G is good enough too. JP diamonds already have the maximum light performance which will make the diamond look brighter. With a good cut, G color will already look whiter compared to other not so good F color ones.

There's a video abt it.

The extra side diamonds on the side wall is a nice touch. Bear in mind, if your gf plans to wear her wedding band with the proposal ring, it will cover up all the side diamonds on one side. Unless you put on one side only so the other side can see. But it'll be quite funny if she wears the proposal ring only.

$300 to go from G to F, it's a no-brainer, I would do it too

Regarding the side diamonds, do take note that if your gf plans to wear her engagement ring stacked with the wedding band, the side diamonds will inevitably scratch the sides of the wedding band.

IMO, the side diamonds on the shank of the ring should be more than enough bling!

I was also shown my diamond under outdoor lighting and sunlight. Really love how it looks like under direct sunlight! I was shock when my sales person ask me to walk out the shop with him

Personally I will top up for the F color for the $300. Like you said, it looks nicer on the cert.. hhaha!

For your customization, why not put the diamonds till the halfway band and stop together with the side diamonds at the top view. It looks more complete I feel. Just a little bit like not here not there leh. haha

Thanks for all your input guys! Wow.. all of you tell me to up to the F.. I'll listen to you guys

I'm still thinking of the design. Is it common for girls to wear diamond ring and band together?

Is it normal to bring the girl down to choose the design? (but keep the diamond detail as a surprise)

 

[mero_cwj]

Thanks for all your input guys! Wow.. all of you tell me to up to the F.. I'll listen to you guys

I'm still thinking of the design. Is it common for girls to wear diamond ring and band together?

Is it normal to bring the girl down to choose the design? (but keep the diamond detail as a surprise)

Quite common amongst my friends to wear both the engagement ring and wedding band.

What I do is to send my gf ring photos and gauge what her likes/dislikes are, then I can make an educated guess on the ring design and still keep it (relatively) a surprise!

 

[mero_cwj]

Realistically comparison should only be on the top and a bit of the side since for bigger diamond as most setting can still see the side of it and on a natural environment and not with a piece of white background behind [/QUOTE]



I am not sure if its just me, but when I was given colour E and G (set on a ring), and not knowing which is G and which is E, without white background. I am able to identify which is of a lower grade.

I know that it can be due to me knowing one is of it is of a lower grade, should I not know, I think I won't be able to identify.[/QUOTE]

E and G probably can, even if it's in a ring setting. F and G will be much harder to tell, and if you were only presented with a G set into a ring, unless you are very experienced in scrutinising diamonds, you would probably say that it is colourless.

Just like how when you look at the nippon paint catalogue, you can tell all the different tints of white because the samples are all laid out on one page, but when it's painted on the wall, white is white

 

[KinoChoco]

E and G probably can, even if it's in a ring setting. F and G will be much harder to tell, and if you were only presented with a G set into a ring, unless you are very experienced in scrutinising diamonds, you would probably say that it is colourless.

Just like how when you look at the nippon paint catalogue, you can tell all the different tints of white because the samples are all laid out on one page, but when it's painted on the wall, white is white

Bro have you compared D/E to F? easy to see the differences mah?

 

[mero_cwj]

Bro have you compared D/E to F? easy to see the differences mah?

E and F I couldn't see anything. D and F can see very very very tiny bit of difference, if I looked really closely. I suppose I need 2 grades colour difference to be able to tell.

that's why I went for G. My gf isn't the type who will want to look at the GIA cert anyway. As long as it's a good looking diamond under the naked eye, good enough liao.

 

[Secretyt]

E and F I couldn't see anything. D and F can see very very very tiny bit of difference, if I looked really closely. I suppose I need 2 grades colour difference to be able to tell.

that's why I went for G. My gf isn't the type who will want to look at the GIA cert anyway. As long as it's a good looking diamond under the naked eye, good enough liao.

hmmm... i was considering if I should downgrade from E to F and VS1 to VS2 with a price difference of S$900. My friends are telling me that its not worth.