Proposal Ring - Part 3

[NeonX]

It really depends on the light source etc.

Generally i think the cut is the single most important factor in affecting the brilliance, flare, bling factor etc.

Perhaps you should go down to jannpaul first before buying. See if what they reach you there is important to you not. After that then decide. Their prices may not be the cheapest but their quality is not bad so far I believe.

 

[mero_cwj]

how to see the HCA score ah?

the diamond i picked looks the brightest (the one with the specs i shared) compared to the ones they showed me, can visually tell the difference even for someone inexperienced like me so i just picked that one.

is shiniest always better or is the light supposed to be focused ?

http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

A lot of jewellers use very bright lighting to hide flaws in the gems and make everything look shiny. Start your search at a shop that provides a good diamond introduction instead, there are a few local shops doing this now, the most well known one is of course JannPaul.

 

[Evil_Boss]

wah my score only 3.7,

means not really such a good buy? 7k doesn't seem really cheap lor

JP is good but maybe i shouldnt choose this, how come score so low yet still so high

 

[mero_cwj]

wah my score only 3.7,

means not really such a good buy? 7k doesn't seem really cheap lor

JP is good but maybe i shouldnt choose this, how come score so low yet still so high

Not too sure what you can get for 7-8k at JP, but I think should be able to get a 0.7X carat diamond.

Did a quick search on Whiteflash A Cut Above diamonds, for under 7k SGD (GST included), biggest diamond I found was a 0.814 carat G VS2 (AGS Triple Ideal). USD 4,552 (if paying by wire transfer). HCA score 1.5.

Whiteflash prices are generally a little bit cheaper than JP, so I guess you can take reference from there. 7k for a 0.80 carat diamond with HCA score of 3.7 and medium blue fluorescence doesn't sound like a good buy to me....

 

[Lss]

wah my score only 3.7,

means not really such a good buy? 7k doesn't seem really cheap lor

JP is good but maybe i shouldnt choose this, how come score so low yet still so high

might still be good. just look at the other scopes and the diamond in person.

 

[KingKenny]

HCA only checks the proportions and should only be used to eliminate poor proportioned diamonds. But its not effective for choosing a good proportion because it has alot of limitations. In a way, it is 100% effective in telling you which diamonds is bad but not accurate to tell you which are good.

After you narrow the diamonds to with low HCA, you need to use the ASET check the light return. ---> this is to analyze the bling factor

IMO, if the cut is no good, even if you get the best color also no use. It won't bling.

Don't be tricked by jewelry shop lights. I'll never buy a diamond without checking it with the scopes.

 

[NeonX]

7 to 8k should be able to get a jp super ideal cut grade d

 

[Simiishthis]

What are the scores that i should take a look at in sequence to filter away bad diamonds? (for e.g. hca and then aset and ...?)

Sent from a little place on earth using GAGT

 

[10e5x@1610]

Anyone know the estimated price for an Ideal/Super Ideal cut for a 0.8+ D VS2 from JannPaul? Hope to get a feel of the price range before making a trip down...

 

[10e5x@1610]

Some say below 2, some say below 1.5...

 

[Evil_Boss]

went back and talk to the original salesguy that helped me, he told me wah the diamond isnt that good, in the end repicked, added +1k,

now its .80, VS2, G color Super ideal cut, no folor HCA 1.0

old one was .80, VS2, D color, Ideal Cut, medium floro, HCA 3.7

looks much better now

total 8600

for ur diamond it looks quite similar in specs, but better color, u should be looking at around 9500-10k plus for ur D color .80 vs2 super ideal, mine was G and 8100

if u want i can intro my sales guy hes damn zai

 

[Evil_Boss]

bro i saw ur specs, ur diamond looks exactly the same as mine but higher carat, and color and slightly cheaper

so must check the cut, i think its ideal only. triple excellent but can be ideal cut not super ideal maybe thats why cheaper?

mine is .80, G, VS2, Super ideal 8100

 

[Evil_Boss]

he also mentioned that color is important, but sometimes the cut makes the diamond so bright u cant see the difference between the grades

also look for the one with the best sparkle which is cut, not so much color

 

[10e5x@1610]

bro i saw ur specs, ur diamond looks exactly the same as mine but higher carat, and color and slightly cheaper

so must check the cut, i think its ideal only. triple excellent but can be ideal cut not super ideal maybe thats why cheaper?

mine is .80, G, VS2, Super ideal 8100

Yours .80 is from Jannpaul? then ur prev post of D color also JannPaul but Ideal Cut?

 

[10e5x@1610]

What are the scores that i should take a look at in sequence to filter away bad diamonds? (for e.g. hca and then aset and ...?)

For HCA some recommended below 2.0 while some recommended below 1.5

 

[Evil_Boss]

Yours .80 is from Jannpaul? then ur prev post of D color also JannPaul but Ideal Cut?

Yes, i bought a D color .80 VS2, ideal, medium floro, but after looking at this thread and online, went back to the shop and changed, had to add 1k extra

 

[tinkerella]

Finally chose my setting today! Decided to stick w my initial decision of a 4 prong cathedral setting even though I saw how 6 prongs really can make the diamond rounder and bigger..
But I really love the "floating" diamond in the profile view of the 4 prong.

Just hope that the prongs don't turn out too thick/bulky. Tried to request for thin prongs but was told that they can't make it thin as its a security concern.. Hmm, guess I will find out in the rendering! *Crosses fingers*

 

[freesignalz]

Was quoted by JannPaul $9,100.00 for a, 0.76 E VS1 (Octagon Brilliant)...
What do you guys think? Don't know the market price, so asking for opinions.

 

[tinkerella]

Hi Signalz, sorry i can't help you as i only researched on the round brilliants. But I think the price is about there? I vaguely remember someone saying his 0.70 Octagon with similar specs as yours being around 8000+ Not so sure if a jump in 0.06 carats would warrant a 1k increase though..

To other diamond pros~ can I check with you guys if JP's VS2 is considered eye-clean and good enough? I wasn't shown the inclusions but know that there's a cloud and a crystal via the GIA report.
Should I be worried? And would the locations of these inclusions matter?
Thanks!

 

[Son-Y-noS]

Hi Signalz, sorry i can't help you as i only researched on the round brilliants. But I think the price is about there? I vaguely remember someone saying his 0.70 Octagon with similar specs as yours being around 8000+ Not so sure if a jump in 0.06 carats would warrant a 1k increase though..

To other diamond pros~ can I check with you guys if JP's VS2 is considered eye-clean and good enough? I wasn't shown the inclusions but know that there's a cloud and a crystal via the GIA report.
Should I be worried? And would the locations of these inclusions matter?
Thanks!

Yeah, diamond prices shoots up when it crosses the 0.7ct mark.

VS2 is good enough. JP filters their VS2s to be eye clean and they don't accept inclusions with durability risks. You should be fine ba