Proposal Ring - Part 3

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Went down to JP to see my ring's wax. Its made to the same scale as the actual ring. Can't really see much of the detailing but its good to gauge the overall thickness for the final ring. They told me that the actual ring will still be finer as the ring will go through a polishing stage that will smoothen the edges. They allowed me to keep it for memento :D I can tell they're putting alot of effort to help me build up my ring making collage.

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I got itchy and saw my diamond again. Finally got the chance to see it under the sun! My last few visits was either raining or cloudy. I took some videos of it.



The flashes are very sharp and blinding. My camera phone only captures the bigger flashes. In real life, there is more of those smaller and glittery short burst sparkles but the camera doesn't seem to capture those. Anyway, bottomline is the diamond is damn sparkly. lol



This is another video. Its taken in sun light and at the 0:18 mark, there was a passing cloud. So thats how it will be when its cloudy. You can see the transition when the diamond is very firey and scintillating under sun light and then change to brilliant and brighter under cloudy light. It's easy to see the black arrows patterning under the cloudy light when there is no direct or strong light. Which is similar to normal indoor type of lighting. The octagon diamond looks nice in all types of lighting, just see which type of effect you prefer more.

Now for the patient wait for them to craft my ring.......

I'm sure your ring will turn out nice. The wax ring is a nice keepsake. I didn't customize mine and chose from their existing design. I guess thats why I didn't need to do wax. My ring is going to be ready by next week :s12:
 

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I'm sure your ring will turn out nice. The wax ring is a nice keepsake. I didn't customize mine and chose from their existing design. I guess thats why I didn't need to do wax. My ring is going to be ready by next week :s12:

The wax is optional, they don't usually advertise it out, as it doesn't really look nice anyway hence usually they will just provide a hyper realistic 3D shots for final review
 

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Sharing my heart shape diamond ring from JP :) Its a an anniversary ring :D
First ring I got for my proposal is the octagon and this 2nd one is a heart shape. Since I already got the octagon that will be my main ring, I thought of doing my 2nd one as a fun ring in rose gold.

For the brilliant and shine, the octagon is way more firey and intense. The heart shape doesnt come close to its brilliance. But it still makes a cute and nice fashion ring on the side. I told my hubby no need to buy any more diamonds for me already..... at least for now... hehehe

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Pretty ring! I'm starting to like rose gold more. My E-ring is in white gold and I chose rose gold for my wedding bands. :)
 

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Newbie here. After reading through the recent posts, my understanding is

Option 1: Other diamonds (with the same 4C criteria) with their "ideal cut" is like
- A Audi A 3 with 1 litre engine. (Cheaper)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the normal ideal cut inside.

Option 2: JP diamond (with the same 4C criteria) with their strict selection of Ideal cut is like
- A Audi A 3 with 2 litres engine. (More expensive)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the strict selected ideal cut inside.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Or can someone copy and paste the relevant post link for me to read.
 

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Newbie here. After reading through the recent posts, my understanding is

Option 1: Other diamonds (with the same 4C criteria) with their "ideal cut" is like
- A Audi A 3 with 1 litre engine. (Cheaper)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the normal ideal cut inside.

Option 2: JP diamond (with the same 4C criteria) with their strict selection of Ideal cut is like
- A Audi A 3 with 2 litres engine. (More expensive)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the strict selected ideal cut inside.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Or can someone copy and paste the relevant post link for me to read.

More or less an ok analogy. But JP claims, and shows some videos to prove:
Their super ideal will make the diamond look bigger.

Based on your analogy, both car seems to be the same, but somehow the 2nd car slightly more powerful.
 

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Newbie here. After reading through the recent posts, my understanding is

Option 1: Other diamonds (with the same 4C criteria) with their "ideal cut" is like
- A Audi A 3 with 1 litre engine. (Cheaper)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the normal ideal cut inside.

Option 2: JP diamond (with the same 4C criteria) with their strict selection of Ideal cut is like
- A Audi A 3 with 2 litres engine. (More expensive)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the strict selected ideal cut inside.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Or can someone copy and paste the relevant post link for me to read.

Visually, Super Ideal cut will look better than Ideal cut. So the car model should be different too. Ideal cut is like Audi A3, Super Ideal cut is like Ferrari. Looks and performs better.
In the car world, a Ferrari will cost wayyy more than the Audi A3 and might not be worth it. But for diamonds, JP Super Ideal cut is about the same price or slightly more expensive than the Ideal cut. So why not get a ''Ferrari'' for an ''Audi A3'' price?

This is a simplifying it but it can be abit more complicated. There are some companies out there that anyhow label diamonds too that try to sell ''Audi A3'' as ''Ferrari''. So you also need to do your own homework and research how to ''check the hood'' of the car by using the scopes :s13:

JP has videos showing the Ideal and Super Ideal cut difference


And the type of lighting you see the diamond under plays a part too
 

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Visually, Super Ideal cut will look better than Ideal cut. So the car model should be different too. Ideal cut is like Audi A3, Super Ideal cut is like Ferrari. Looks and performs better.
In the car world, a Ferrari will cost wayyy more than the Audi A3 and might not be worth it. But for diamonds, JP Super Ideal cut is about the same price or slightly more expensive than the Ideal cut. So why not get a ''Ferrari'' for an ''Audi A3'' price?

This is a simplifying it but it can be abit more complicated. There are some companies out there that anyhow label diamonds too that try to sell ''Audi A3'' as ''Ferrari''. So you also need to do your own homework and research how to ''check the hood'' of the car by using the scopes :s13:

JP has videos showing the Ideal and Super Ideal cut difference


And the type of lighting you see the diamond under plays a part too

Thank you CutiePie84. A video speaks a million words. The super ideal cut indeed blink more.
 

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Hi everyone! I am planning to buy a ring with a pink sapphire surrounded by small diamonds and maybe rose gold band. Example:

http://www.tiffany.com/jewelry/rings/tiffany-soleste-pink-sapphire-and-diamond-ring-GRP07304?fromGrid=1&origin=search&trackpdp=search&fromcid=-1&trackgridpos=17
https://www.bluenile.com/sg/round-pink-sapphire-ring-with-diamond-halo-in-18k-rose-gold_67243?elem=img&track=product&vtype=sample
I did some searching online, but could only found what I want from Tiffany and Blue Nile. Are there any other jewellery shops that have this design?

Also can anyone recommend a good credit card to make this purchase? Thanks!
 

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Hi everyone! I am planning to buy a ring with a pink sapphire surrounded by small diamonds and maybe rose gold band. Example:

http://www.tiffany.com/jewelry/rings/tiffany-soleste-pink-sapphire-and-diamond-ring-GRP07304?fromGrid=1&origin=search&trackpdp=search&fromcid=-1&trackgridpos=17
https://www.bluenile.com/sg/round-pink-sapphire-ring-with-diamond-halo-in-18k-rose-gold_67243?elem=img&track=product&vtype=sample
I did some searching online, but could only found what I want from Tiffany and Blue Nile. Are there any other jewellery shops that have this design?

Also can anyone recommend a good credit card to make this purchase? Thanks!

How come Bluenile pink sapphire so expensive for 12k? My friend got his sapphire ring from JP 3k+ only.
 

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Hi everyone! I am planning to buy a ring with a pink sapphire surrounded by small diamonds and maybe rose gold band. Example:

http://www.tiffany.com/jewelry/rings/tiffany-soleste-pink-sapphire-and-diamond-ring-GRP07304?fromGrid=1&origin=search&trackpdp=search&fromcid=-1&trackgridpos=17
https://www.bluenile.com/sg/round-pink-sapphire-ring-with-diamond-halo-in-18k-rose-gold_67243?elem=img&track=product&vtype=sample
I did some searching online, but could only found what I want from Tiffany and Blue Nile. Are there any other jewellery shops that have this design?

Also can anyone recommend a good credit card to make this purchase? Thanks!

Try checking out Concierge Diamonds from LA, he works with customers all over the world. Can see his Instagram. I know he can fully customize a pink sapphire ring for you in any design and match Blue Nile’s pricing. He will also send you videos of the pink sapphire (he is a diamonds and gems wholesaler so he can try to source for a pink sapphire with better cut for you and show you the sparkliness in a video) so you can approve it before mounting in the ring, and then pics/videos of the finished ring before sending out to you. I was quite impressed by his “about us” on his website therefore I contacted him when I was looking for diamonds. You can tell this girl S from Singapore recommended him and who knows if he can try to get a better price for you.

Alternatively, you can consider buying the pink sapphire online first and then having it set into a custom ring in Singapore. I know CJ diamonds and Poh Kim can both do fully custom ring settings. I haven’t tried Poh Kim myself but CJ Diamonds has beautiful workmanship.

I personally used DBS bank wire transfer to pay for my diamond that I shipped from the US. It took around 5.5 days to reach the vendor. You can get around 3% discount with many US vendors if you pay via bank wire transfer. Fees are like SGD$30 with DBS.

Buying gems online is AWESOME haha. The prices are awesome, the service is fantastic. Highly recommend it.

Edit: CJ Diamonds can probably find a pink sapphire for you too as another option and design your ring. And hopefully it’ll cost less than 12k haha. Try giving him a call, he’s very nice.

Other places I visited that can design that ring and source the gemstone for you - Ling Jewellery and Fairy’s Inc, but very expensive haha.
 

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Newbie here. After reading through the recent posts, my understanding is

Option 1: Other diamonds (with the same 4C criteria) with their "ideal cut" is like
- A Audi A 3 with 1 litre engine. (Cheaper)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the normal ideal cut inside.

Option 2: JP diamond (with the same 4C criteria) with their strict selection of Ideal cut is like
- A Audi A 3 with 2 litres engine. (More expensive)
- Look sleek on the outside.
- But if you dont open the hood and see (use scope and see), you will not know the strict selected ideal cut inside.

Please correct me if I am wrong. Or can someone copy and paste the relevant post link for me to read.

The super ideal cut will definitely look sparklier than the ideal cut. But maybe your gf wants a bigger diamond? Then in that case, for the same amount of money (let’s say 6k), you can either choose to buy a smaller, sparklier diamond, or a bigger, still sparkly, diamond (but make sure it’s HCA below 2 and has a decent Idealscope image). Realistically, which one is still bigger for the same amount of money you paid?

The reason why people go to JP is because they want THE BEST. Let’s say you already know you confirm want a 0.5ct diamond. You don’t want anything bigger. Then sure, you can buy at JP and you will definitely be getting an OUTSTANDING diamond, best on the market.

Your analogy is a little mistaken because you WILL visually be able to see the difference between a super ideal cut and an ideal cut diamond. You won’t be able to see much difference in a jewellery store. But you WILL be able to see some differences in the sparkliness in natural light - it will be super extra sparkly.

Actually I am not sure if you are talking about JP Ideal cut vs. JP super ideal cut. But even their ideal cut is good because using the scope, there is no light leakage.

You CAN see light leakage in diamonds in daylight/natural lighting, it’s not like a car you just put there and don’t open the car to see inside. And you are likely to see it if the ideal cut from other shops do not have a fully red Idealscope image and HCA score less than 2. Many triple EX diamonds from China and India that are sold in Singapore are cut in 60-60 cut, which is definitely visually different from an ideal cut diamond when you compare both in natural light. And once you use an idealscope to check, they may have the black ring of death (inside the diamond not sparkling at all)/just not performing to their maximum ability, because their cut is too deep/steep. Why? Because the cutter is more interested in maximizing diamond size rather than cut. Duh. It will cost them more diamond raw material to cut a diamond with better cut (that’s why a diamond with HCA score less than 2 may be more expensive).

While the trend nowadays is HCA score less than 2 (diamonds with ideal cut proportions) and light performance with no white leakage on Idealscope image.

To fully answer your question, JP ideal cut diamonds are diamonds with HCA score less than 2 and good scope images. Can you find such diamonds in other shops? Yes, but make sure it also has HCA score 2 and decent Idealscope image to check for light leakage.

How about, is there a difference between JP ideal cut diamonds and any random diamond you buy from jewellery store that are NOT HCA less than 2? YES, there will be a super big difference if you take both diamonds and compare them sparkling next to a window. You WILL be able to visually see a difference (of course it depends on the random diamond since all diamonds are different). But the short answer is, because of the diamond proportions and because of the cut, it’s very likely that your random diamond is of inferior cut to an ideal cut diamond that follows ideal cut proportions.
 
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used to post in this thread last time. Now married already my wife also don't wear diamond ring out because there is alway a risk of getting robbed plus we peasant taking train usually wear like we going market so no point wear too shiny diamond :s13: except on special occasion.

Haha. To me, I want to max out the value of wear-time (50 years haha) of what I paid for my diamond so I will definitely want to enjoy it every day regardless of what I am wearing. Don’t care what others think, just feel happy when I see my sparkly. I take the train and bus all the time too. And I am always admiring diamond rings on others especially during the morning commute! Ladies on buses too :> Also, I don’t think you are a peasant because you take the train. You are a rich person because you save 2k a month on not owning a car and on top of that 80k for not actually buying the car. LOLLLL that’s a lot of money.

In Singapore I think we are very fortunate and walking around in the daytime, I think it’s not very likely that we’ll get robbed. Wearing diamond rings daily are pretty common in SG.
 

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If a Super ideal cut 0.9carat f colour vs1 round diamond worth to get for 11k without the setting for. Jannpaul?

Worth it or not is up to you.

Personally for 11k I’ll get A BIG FREAKIN ideal cut HCA<2 diamond of wayyyy more than 1 ct and go down to G color VS2 and zoom my size up even more. I can even go down to a lower color and down clarity to SI2 as long as diamond looks eye clean to me. But fortunately you are not me haha.
 

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Worth it or not is up to you.

Personally for 11k I’ll get A BIG FREAKIN ideal cut HCA<2 diamond of wayyyy more than 1 ct and go down to G color VS2 and zoom my size up even more. I can even go down to a lower color and down clarity to SI2 as long as diamond looks eye clean to me. But fortunately you are not me haha.

I feel that the bigger the diamond, the more obvious the yellow tint actually...even with super ideal cut, above 1CT, I decided to upgrade my planned G to F instead haha.
 

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Visually, Super Ideal cut will look better than Ideal cut. So the car model should be different too. Ideal cut is like Audi A3, Super Ideal cut is like Ferrari. Looks and performs better.
In the car world, a Ferrari will cost wayyy more than the Audi A3 and might not be worth it. But for diamonds, JP Super Ideal cut is about the same price or slightly more expensive than the Ideal cut. So why not get a ''Ferrari'' for an ''Audi A3'' price?

This is a simplifying it but it can be abit more complicated. There are some companies out there that anyhow label diamonds too that try to sell ''Audi A3'' as ''Ferrari''. So you also need to do your own homework and research how to ''check the hood'' of the car by using the scopes :s13:

JP has videos showing the Ideal and Super Ideal cut difference


And the type of lighting you see the diamond under plays a part too

To be fair, most people who ultimately went for ideal instead of super ideal actually gotten something that’s closer to Super ideal (the better ones within the ideal range) and most might find it appears to be performing the same in terms of normal lighting. I believe the video picked a lower end of the ideal range for a more obvious comparison.
 

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I feel that the bigger the diamond, the more obvious the yellow tint actually...even with super ideal cut, above 1CT, I decided to upgrade my planned G to F instead haha.

I agree, it’s up to one’s personal preference. I think OP should go to a store and look at a F and G and see if he can tell the difference. If he can’t, the G is better IMO. I’d say most people who don’t care about diamonds won’t be able to tell a difference between a F and G. My super ideal G honestly looked extremely white to me in every single lighting condition when I had it.
 
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