Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Whisky&Spaniels]

Got my 10 posts out of the way! Here they are:

From the ASET scope image, it appears that there's a section of light leakage right in the centre of the diamond. Or is this just to do with the way the pictures were taken? Are there any major flaws that can be seen?

Actual image

Ideal scope

Aset scope

Hearts and arrows

 

[Miltah]

Thank u for the very nice video.
Can u share the GIA no of ur diamond for the dimensions

There’s a reason why I asked if seeing arrows is a good thing. Did u notice that in the video in strong lighting (eg wall light) that the arrows can’t be seen well.

Perfect symmetry does not equate to excellent light performance.

Stone C has a poor aset with light leakage but u can still make out the arrows. Point being, in poor and diffused lighting, u can make out the arrows but doesn’t mean it’s a good stone. Likewise, u can say that in strong lighting, as the JP stone has strong light return that u can’t make out the arrows but u can still make out the arrows in the poorer stone.

I posted this previously as u asked abt crown n pav angles. This is impt as the arrowhead are a reflection from the LGF. If u dun have the right angles, u dun have the right reflection.

The arrow shaft are driven by the LGF in the pavilion. I.e. 80% thinner arrows, 75% fatter.

 

[Freyya]

Hello!

Will need your views on diamonds for my engagement ring. I will be doing my proposal during the last quarter of this year and made an appointment with JP. They quoted me the following which was within my budget (not significantly high as I’ve just entered the workforce).

SIC 0.44 G VVSI $2,900 excluding setting

Now, my dilemma here was either to stick with this, switch it to Ideal cut & bump up the carat, or go with a SIC 0.54 which is above my budget. Reason being I’ve shown my SO videos on SIC and Ideal cut but she commented both looks good (seems like she doesn’t really have a preference?).

Personally, I’m quite fixed on getting from JP as they are known for their quality and I wanna get something good for her, just conflicted between the SIC and Ideal cut. (But definitely not triple E cut). Thought if she don’t really mind either one, I might as well get one with a bigger carat within my budget.

Thoughts anyone? Will it seem like I’m losing out getting Ideal cut from JP/HOH?

 

[blurpandasg2014]

There’s a reason why I asked if seeing arrows is a good thing. Did u notice that in the video in strong lighting (eg wall light) that the arrows can’t be seen well.

Perfect symmetry does not equate to excellent light performance.

Stone C has a poor aset with light leakage but u can still make out the arrows. Point being, in poor and diffused lighting, u can make out the arrows but doesn’t mean it’s a good stone. Likewise, u can say that in strong lighting, as the JP stone has strong light return that u can’t make out the arrows but u can still make out the arrows in the poorer stone.

I posted this previously as u asked abt crown n pav angles. This is impt as the arrowhead are a reflection from the LGF. If u dun have the right angles, u dun have the right reflection.

The arrow shaft are driven by the LGF in the pavilion. I.e. 80% thinner arrows, 75% fatter.

Thank you for your insightful post meaning under bright conditions but able to see arrow may not be good thing

I saw my friend ring under normal room lighting (T5 light bulb) at a distance of 1m

 

[Miltah]

Thank you for your insightful post meaning under bright conditions but able to see arrow may not be good thing

I saw my friend ring under normal room lighting (T5 light bulb) at a distance of 1m

Yes.
If u tried taking a photo of the arrows with your phone or macro lens. The distance should be under 0.5m in order to see arrows..

 

[Miltah]

Hello!

Will need your views on diamonds for my engagement ring. I will be doing my proposal during the last quarter of this year and made an appointment with JP. They quoted me the following which was within my budget (not significantly high as I’ve just entered the workforce).

SIC 0.44 G VVSI $2,900 excluding setting

Now, my dilemma here was either to stick with this, switch it to Ideal cut & bump up the carat, or go with a SIC 0.54 which is above my budget. Reason being I’ve shown my SO videos on SIC and Ideal cut but she commented both looks good (seems like she doesn’t really have a preference?).

Personally, I’m quite fixed on getting from JP as they are known for their quality and I wanna get something good for her, just conflicted between the SIC and Ideal cut. (But definitely not triple E cut). Thought if she don’t really mind either one, I might as well get one with a bigger carat within my budget.

Thoughts anyone? Will it seem like I’m losing out getting Ideal cut from JP/HOH?

Tough one. Mind clean SIC or bigger caret HOH. Personally I would take the bigger as u get pretty good ideals at HOH. See if u can spot the difference

 

[ThiamWan]

Got my 10 posts out of the way! Here they are:

From the ASET scope image, it appears that there's a section of light leakage right in the centre of the diamond. Or is this just to do with the way the pictures were taken? Are there any major flaws that can be seen?

Actual image

Ideal scope

Aset scope

Hearts and arrows

JP SIC are vetted to be perfect already. By right, if there’s light leakage at the middle, the Ideal scope and Actual photo would show it too. In your case, those scopes are fine. It might be just reflections. You can double check with them.

 

[iamnotshawn]

Hello!

Will need your views on diamonds for my engagement ring. I will be doing my proposal during the last quarter of this year and made an appointment with JP. They quoted me the following which was within my budget (not significantly high as I’ve just entered the workforce).

SIC 0.44 G VVSI $2,900 excluding setting

Now, my dilemma here was either to stick with this, switch it to Ideal cut & bump up the carat, or go with a SIC 0.54 which is above my budget. Reason being I’ve shown my SO videos on SIC and Ideal cut but she commented both looks good (seems like she doesn’t really have a preference?).

Personally, I’m quite fixed on getting from JP as they are known for their quality and I wanna get something good for her, just conflicted between the SIC and Ideal cut. (But definitely not triple E cut). Thought if she don’t really mind either one, I might as well get one with a bigger carat within my budget.

Thoughts anyone? Will it seem like I’m losing out getting Ideal cut from JP/HOH?

I had the same dilemma as you when I went down recently.

Maybe when you're out shopping with your gf, you can keep a lookout on which C matters the most to her. For my gf, carat size matters the most to her. She's okay even with lower colour.

In the end, I got an ideal cut from HoH. As commented by some here, ideal cuts from hoh are of pretty high quality. I can save quite a bit and get a bigger carat of my choice.

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[KinoChoco]

I had the same dilemma as you when I went down recently.

Maybe when you're out shopping with your gf, you can keep a lookout on which C matters the most to her. For my gf, carat size matters the most to her. She's okay even with lower colour.

In the end, I got an ideal cut from HoH. As commented by some here, ideal cuts from hoh are of pretty high quality. I can save quite a bit and get a bigger carat of my choice.

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I will think ideal is a more practical choice with bigger carats.

SIC if you’re more anal about paper perfect / mind perfect, you’re not really gonna be noticing any significant differences in real.

The pros of having a 0.6 ideal vs 0.5 SIC, people will certainly be more impressed with the bigger sized ones as both are already very sparky.

 

[iamnotshawn]

I will think ideal is a more practical choice with bigger carats.

SIC if you’re more anal about paper perfect / mind perfect, you’re not really gonna be noticing any significant differences in real.

The pros of having a 0.6 ideal vs 0.5 SIC, people will certainly be more impressed with the bigger sized ones as both are already very sparky.

Yea my exact same thoughts. If I had went for an SIC of the same stats, it'll probably cost me 15% more than an ideal cut.

My gf dont really care about stats. As long as its sparkling and big enough, she's okay with it. I prefer to buy something that can be seen with my naked eyes.

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[Miltah]

Yea my exact same thoughts. If I had went for an SIC of the same stats, it'll probably cost me 15% more than an ideal cut.

My gf dont really care about stats. As long as its sparkling and big enough, she's okay with it. I prefer to buy something that can be seen with my naked eyes.

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Precisely. U prefer to pay for what u can see while I dun like to pay for what I can’t see (like color and clarity)

 

[LindaLiao]

I think it depends on how perfect you want it to be and sensitive your eyes are. I'm not very sensitive to color and cannot see a E to G difference. D to G I can but its just alittle bit.

I'm more sensitive to the way it sparkles. I couldn't see the difference for the JP SIC and HOH Ideal in the shop. When they showed me outdoors, I could see some difference. I don't know how to describe it but it just sparkles abit better in some ways. Its not a big difference but a difference that I could tell when I observed. I could have gotten a bigger diamond for the HOH Ideal but I know I will having that nagging feeling that it could be better. That's just me and my hubby knows my personality. We decided on the SIC at the end.

Then again like others have said, not all HOH Ideals are cut the same. So your experience might differ from mine. Ask the SA to show you inside and outside the shop.

 

[Miltah]

I think it depends on how perfect you want it to be and sensitive your eyes are. I'm not very sensitive to color and cannot see a E to G difference. D to G I can but its just alittle bit.

I'm more sensitive to the way it sparkles. I couldn't see the difference for the JP SIC and HOH Ideal in the shop. When they showed me outdoors, I could see some difference. I don't know how to describe it but it just sparkles abit better in some ways. Its not a big difference but a difference that I could tell when I observed. I could have gotten a bigger diamond for the HOH Ideal but I know I will having that nagging feeling that it could be better. That's just me and my hubby knows my personality. We decided on the SIC at the end.

Then again like others have said, not all HOH Ideals are cut the same. So your experience might differ from mine. Ask the SA to show you inside and outside the shop.

What u are suggesting is interesting.

The recent few HOH ideals have virtually similar ASETs to JP SIC. And the symmetry is almost spot on.

Wonder if there’s any other measure to quantify what u are seeing... if that’s the case, maybe when we grow old, all HOH ideal will look like SIC

 

[LindaLiao]

What u are suggesting is interesting.

The recent few HOH ideals have virtually similar ASETs to JP SIC. And the symmetry is almost spot on.

Wonder if there’s any other measure to quantify what u are seeing... if that’s the case, maybe when we grow old, all HOH ideal will look like SIC

I dunno.. lol. Its hard to describe. Its just the way it shines somehow.

Maybe thats y old ppl like sapphires and rubies.. easier to see. lol

 

[drakyrr]

Not sure if this have been asked, from first appointment to collection, how long will it take if everything went smoothly?

 

[ThiamWan]

Not sure if this have been asked, from first appointment to collection, how long will it take if everything went smoothly?

You mean JP? Mine took abt 6 weeks

 

[iamnotshawn]

Not sure if this have been asked, from first appointment to collection, how long will it take if everything went smoothly?

Depends how long you take to decide on your ring. Normally they take about 6 weeks to craft the ring

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[blurpandasg2014]

Does JP provide sarine report for their GIA stones

 

[Miltah]

Does JP provide sarine report for their GIA stones

U can try asking for it... they have access to sarin. They dun give it as there’s little consumer added value in it. Knowing exact angles or deviations does not guarantee aset

Question is what good would knowing sarin give u?

 

[Miltah]

Does JP provide sarine report for their GIA stones

Let’s assume for a moment u are keen to find a stone based on stats and numbers. You will see that JP SIC has the most hit rates at crown 34.5 and pav 40.8

Here’s a HOH ideal with crown 34.5 and pav 40.8 but show poor symmetry and leaky aset.

Now if u only just used what is considered ideal stats, then u will eliminate outliners such as ones with crown 33 n pav 41.
But u can clearly see there’s a JP SIC with those numbers and perfect aset. I dun think I need to show JPs standard of perfect aset. It doesn’t happen often but such instances do occur.