Proposal Ring - Part 3

[Miltah]

Anyone knows where can one buy (in sg) lab grown diamonds? Chemically 100 percent tcabrin lab grown diamonds. Thx!

Lightbox is leading the way and pushing out competition with $800/ct.
Even online vendors like James Allen who is starting to sell it can’t beat those prices.
I highly doubt anyone in Sg can even come close to it

 

[KinoChoco]

Lightbox is leading the way and pushing out competition with $800/ct.
Even online vendors like James Allen who is starting to sell it can’t beat those prices.
I highly doubt anyone in Sg can even come close to it

Unfortunately their quality still sucks tho, cut grade only around VG-EX.

GIA did a test on them and also noticed that are at G color VS2 range, will be interesting to see someone uses aset on it

 

[Miltah]

Unfortunately their quality still sucks tho, cut grade only around VG-EX.

GIA did a test on them and also noticed that are at G color VS2 range, will be interesting to see someone uses aset on it

The way lightbox is marketed, it’s never meant to be high end. Currently they only sell mostly as set pieces. Although I’m aware of someone who bought one and dismounted it for a ring

Take this very well cut 2ct, 3ex lab grown for example.

You got the $800/ct lightbox VS a 2ct well cut that currently ranges from $5-10k

Would be interesting to see where the market ends up...

 

[jonleelk]

The way lightbox is marketed, it’s never meant to be high end. Currently they only sell mostly as set pieces. Although I’m aware of someone who bought one and dismounted it for a ring

Take this very well cut 2ct, 3ex lab grown for example.

You got the $800/ct lightbox VS a 2ct well cut that currently ranges from $5-10k

Would be interesting to see where the market ends up...

Where can buy this 2ct?

 

[BuaySaiHippo]

Any thoughts about the above scope images?

Depth
60.9 %

Table
59 %

Crown Angle
34.5°

Crown Height
14.0%

Pavilion Angle
41.0°

Pavilion Depth
43.5%

Star Length
50%

Lower Half
75%

Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%

Culet
None

0.65ct, VS1, G, Triple Ex, None
HCA score is 2.0

Quoted S$4k with basic setting.

 

[Miltah]

Any thoughts about the above scope images?

Depth
60.9 %
Table
59 %

0.65ct, VS1, G, Triple Ex, None
HCA score is 2.0

Quoted S$4k with basic setting.

Hearts and arrow view will not show light leakage. U need an ideal or aset scope.
Clefts in hearts

Here’s a very good reason why I think lab grown diamonds will grow in popularity.

The twist in the hearts could be alignment issue but the hearts n arrows of this stone looks better than yours.

- Natural real diamonds are cut to retain max weight for profit but with lab grown, u will probably see better cuts since the cutter does not have to retain weight

- Some pple here say they can notice the JP SIC vs ideal cut but I guarantee NO ONE will notice that you are wearing a well cut lab grown vs natural other than your wallet.

Where can buy this 2ct?

U can search brilliant earth and James Allen for lab grown. Yes, there’s not so much cut info as the stone I presented but I feel it’s a sign of things to come

Probably not a good time to buy as expect prices to drop

 

[BuaySaiHippo]

Hearts and arrow view will not show light leakage. U need an ideal or aset scope.
Clefts in hearts

Here’s a very good reason why I think lab grown diamonds will grow in popularity.

The twist in the hearts could be alignment issue but the hearts n arrows of this stone looks better than yours.

- Natural real diamonds are cut to retain max weight for profit but with lab grown, u will probably see better cuts since the cutter does not have to retain weight

- Some pple here say they can notice the JP SIC vs ideal cut but I guarantee NO ONE will notice that you are wearing a well cut lab grown vs natural other than your wallet.



U can search brilliant earth and James Allen for lab grown. Yes, there’s not so much cut info as the stone I presented but I feel it’s a sign of things to come

Probably not a good time to buy as expect prices to drop

Hearts and arrow view will not show light leakage. U need an ideal or aset scope.
Clefts in hearts

This is the only scope image available to me.
Sorry, which part is the Clefts? The slit down the middle of the hearts?

 

[CheeRs87]

Any thoughts about the above scope images?

Depth
60.9 %

Table
59 %

Crown Angle
34.5°

Crown Height
14.0%

Pavilion Angle
41.0°

Pavilion Depth
43.5%

Star Length
50%

Lower Half
75%

Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%

Culet
None

0.65ct, VS1, G, Triple Ex, None
HCA score is 2.0

Quoted S$4k with basic setting.

The HCA score is 2.3, not 2.0

Light return - Very Good
Fire - Very Good
Scintilaion - Very Good
Spread - Very Good

Total Visual Performance 2.3 - Very Good - Worth buying if the price is right.

Its not at Ideal Cut. 2 of the hearts are smaller in size too.

 

[Miltah]

This is the only scope image available to me.
Sorry, which part is the Clefts? The slit down the middle of the hearts?

Yes. The slit down the middle.

Both scope images only show symmetry and as I mentioned, I’m tolerant of asymmetry.

Performance is more impt to me. And with a HCA on the border of rejection with no scope on performance (ideal or aset), I’m not convinced on your stone

 

[iamnotshawn]

If 5k can buy a 2ct lab grown diamond, then I wouldn't mind it hahahah

Sent from Samsung SM-G965F using GAGT

 

[loveSalnT]

Hi all,
Almost everyone looking for "colourless".
Anyone going vibrant and going "colorful"??

Anyone know where to find good blue sapphire? How to identify one as good?

 

[Miltah]

Hi all,
Almost everyone looking for "colourless".
Anyone going vibrant and going "colorful"??

Anyone know where to find good blue sapphire? How to identify one as good?

I think u need to ask how to identify a lab grown sapphire (corundum) vs a real one.

It’s an even bigger minefield with sapphires when there’s so much choices with lab grown from various shades of blue to a variety of shapes.

 

[Miltah]

https://m.iuiga.com/productdetails/Solitaire-Diamond-Ring-1-Carat-/1022/1886

Not sure if pple rem IUIGA roared into the scene with $1799 for 1ct with 18k setting.
They have now confirmed that their stones are lab grown. Looks like they have adopted a dropshipper model too, the following are all ‘pre order’

1.1ct $3k, 1.5ct $7k, 2ct $11k, comes with IGI or GIA cert with an extra $700-800 for GIA.
They will guarantee F color and VS1-VVS clarity but nothing on the cut

Frankly, even at those prices they are not cheap for a lab grown

 

[1Plus1Equals10]

Hi all,

Very new to this so pardon me. I'm planning to propose somewhere around September, and the budget is around $3500-4500.

SO is wearing a size 14.5 ring and she plans to stack both rings in the future.

I went to JP and I was quoted the following specs:
0.43 E VVS2, SIC - $2900
0.52 D VVS2, SIC (GIA 7323790714) - $4450
0.52/0.53 (can't remember) E VVS2, SIC - $4250

I read the D/VVS2 is only good on paper and under normal lighting conditions can't really tell the difference. I am thinking of dropping it to E/F and VS1/VS2 and maybe bump the carat up slightly. Any thoughts on this?

 

[Miltah]

I went to JP and I was quoted the following specs:
0.43 E VVS2, SIC - $2900
0.52 D VVS2, SIC (GIA 7323790714) - $4450
0.52/0.53 (can't remember) E VVS2, SIC - $4250

I read the D/VVS2 is only good on paper and under normal lighting conditions can't really tell the difference. I am thinking of dropping it to E/F and VS1/VS2 and maybe bump the carat up slightly. Any thoughts on this?

Sounds good.
Since u are already paying the premium to get into the 0.5ct range, might as well drop some specs n go bigger

 

[aaronlimsinga]

Hi all,

Very new to this so pardon me. I'm planning to propose somewhere around September, and the budget is around $3500-4500.

SO is wearing a size 14.5 ring and she plans to stack both rings in the future.

I went to JP and I was quoted the following specs:
0.43 E VVS2, SIC - $2900
0.52 D VVS2, SIC (GIA 7323790714) - $4450
0.52/0.53 (can't remember) E VVS2, SIC - $4250

I read the D/VVS2 is only good on paper and under normal lighting conditions can't really tell the difference. I am thinking of dropping it to E/F and VS1/VS2 and maybe bump the carat up slightly. Any thoughts on this?

This sounds like the same situation as me. I was deciding on G and E Color.
You are right about normal lighting condition will be hard. G and E I only find it easier to see from the side. From the top, its v hard.

But as the bros here advised, my gf mentality is high on the color. So I stuck with the E to save the trouble to 'explain' to her. lol

This is a G and E that is set on a ring.

Left E, Right G

Left G, Right E

 

[Unfilled]

Michael Trio Pure Hearts

Hi all,

New to this thread and have been reading up on the countless invaluable information available here. My turn to look for engagement rings! I see a lot of recommendations for Jannpaul, but would like to check if anyone has experience dealing with Michael Trio instore Pure Hearts collection.

Is this equivalent to the SICs available at JP?

Thanks in advance!

 

[tree]

Info is general at best. There’s local n online vendors. The point in your article, I’m assuming u are considering online vendors.

There’s better ones than James Allen n Bluenile

Can pls share who, and what are cons or things to take note of for buying from online vendor?

Many thanks!

 

[Miltah]

Can pls share who, and what are cons or things to take note of for buying from online vendor?

Many thanks!

Here are some of the vendors that will provide more cut info than most chain stores. There are others but these are the most reputable

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/
https://www.whiteflash.com/
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/

JamesAllen have no cut data n started hiding certs now while Bluenile is a good place to look for the worse of what a 3ex could look like.

Cons? No physical shop. Can’t see. More hassle with fund transfer unless u buying under $2k with cc. Set locally unless u are very sure of ring size

 

[Miltah]

I see a lot of recommendations for Jannpaul, but would like to check if anyone has experience dealing with Michael Trio instore Pure Hearts collection.

Is this equivalent to the SICs available at JP?

Depends on your definition of equivalent... I haven’t seen any