Proposal Ring - Part 3

[jonleelk]

FYI. My old post when I changed rings.

GIA Triple Excellent does not mean it is = Ideal Cut.

 

[jonleelk]

If the ASET is the best gauge of a stones light performance then here are 6 stones. But only 3 are JP SIC

Let me try guess ... (2), (5) and (6) are the SICs?

 

[Miltah]

Let me try guess ... (2), (5) and (6) are the SICs?

That’s funny.
I said 3 are JP SIC but I didn’t say all of the rest are IC.
One of those stones belongs to u (which is not a JP SIC), and u picked the wrong one!!

 

[MyNameIsBob]

Proposal success! The deal has been sealed!
I've been lurking on this thread and benefited alot from all the bros here. Thank you all for the contribution and knowledge.

Sharing some photos of my ring. Its a 0.63 E VS1 super ideal cut. JP managed to speed up my ring crafting to 3 weeks. Very happy with the outcome and setting design I chose.
The design really brings out the diamond and makes it look bigger. The tapered band does help alot with the 6 prongs crown head. They made the crown head alittle more V shape to bring out the main diamond. All these small little ''tricks'' does help with the size. My gf even thought it was a 1ct at first. hahaha

The diamond itself is super sparking without a doubt. Now I know why you guys are all into the super ideal cut. You really got to just see it yourself to understand.

Only thing is the ring size. Will be going back to JP to resize the ring. Its abit too loose and the diamond keeps rotating around the finger. I used the string and measure method to check her ring size. Don't think its very accurate. lol

Hi mytaroavocado, gorgeous ring and great photo taking skills! May I know how much you paid for it?

 

[LindaLiao]

@jonleelk, sorry for the terminology. Back then I wasn't sure with all the Ideals and triple exc terms. My old ring wasn't from JP but the hubby said that it was sold to me as an Ideal cut. Later I checked the HCA score was 1.1. According to the results, its meant to be good with excellent light return, fire and scintillation. Only the spread was a very good. So I assume that its an Ideal but not a ''bad'' triple excellent? I dont have the scopes for it though.

@Miltah, I did clean it and do clean my ring regularly. I also tried to used the baking soda and hot water approach. I even tried boiling my ring!

Yah, i got clean my ring many times before. I used the toothbrush and scrub method. It did look better after cleaning, but still not that sparkly

 

[mytaroavocado]

Hi mytaroavocado, gorgeous ring and great photo taking skills! May I know how much you paid for it?

Pmed you.*

I brought my ring out with my SO after my proposal to other stores.. We checked out usual chain stores over the weekend to compare (and I can explain to her how good her diamond is ). We can immediately see my SIC looking better than the others. I don't know how to describe it. The fire was more intense and have a deeper type of shine? The others were more like a surface type of shine that have that glassy effect. Not sure if I'm saying this correctly.. When my gf put her hands on the table, the first thing we see is how blindly sparkling the rock is. I think even the SA felt abit paiseh to see our ring looking better than the ones in their showcase. Walked out the store a happy man.

 

[Miltah]

@jonleelk, sorry for the terminology. Back then I wasn't sure with all the Ideals and triple exc terms. My old ring wasn't from JP but the hubby said that it was sold to me as an Ideal cut. Later I checked the HCA score was 1.1. According to the results, its meant to be good with excellent light return, fire and scintillation. Only the spread was a very good. So I assume that its an Ideal but not a ''bad'' triple excellent? I dont have the scopes for it though.

@Miltah, I did clean it and do clean my ring regularly. I also tried to used the baking soda and hot water approach. I even tried boiling my ring!

Thanks for the clarification. That explains a lot.

A HCA tool can only help u eliminate the bad stones but u should not use it to pick. Lower does not mean better.

The HCA tool also does not take into account inclusions

An ideal cut or even super ideal cut can be used loosely by various vendors. Even though your old stone had good proportions and HCA, it appears to be ‘cloudy or milky’. I have seen JP/HOH selling leaky stones but never a cloudy stone. Try googling cloudy vs normal diamond n u will see exactly what I mean.

At the end of the day, there’s no right or wrong and I’m sure u couldn’t be happier with your purchase

 

[ThiamWan]

Thanks! I finally figured out how to do it.
These are some videos I took of my diamond =) The precision and fire is amazing. I kept replaying the video and almost got caught by my gf. haha
Its so hard to keep this a secret. If only I can just propose with the loose diamond first ^^

Sharp arrows! Enjoy your ring making process. If you have sufficient time, I suggest customizing a ring with them. There’s no additional charges for custom work.

 

[markthesharktank]

Sharp arrows! Enjoy your ring making process. If you have sufficient time, I suggest customizing a ring with them. There’s no additional charges for custom work.

Ya, I'm going to customize. Gonna propose either by this Dec during our Japan trip or early next year on our anniversary. Ideally is in Dec if I can make it in time.
I'm going for something with side diamonds as that's what she wants. How it is designed will be up to me. I saw this ring video design and like how the spiral part encases up the diamond. I will change want to change the heart prongs to a more simple round prongs instead.

Overall, do you think this design will be too extravagant? Hope I can get some female opinions here. I don't have much female friends to ask arnd.
Do you think it's better to remove this part of the diamonds and keep it plain? Meaning that there will only be diamonds on the whitegold portion.

 

[goglenngoh]

Need some help. My gf told me that she likes square diamonds and I intended to get the Princess cut. But after seeing it in real life, I dont like how it sparkles so differently like the round shape ones. The rounds looks way better and its not in the shape my gf wants. Then I saw the Octagon cut that fits the bill. Its the only square like diamond that have the hearts and arrows. The 88 facets is a plus point.

The Octagon overpowers the Princess when I compare them. Fire bigger, more flashes, more brighter, and overall in its own league. I did consider the Brellia too but its more cushion than square. I selected my Octagon to rotate this way to be square.

I want to change the prongs to be bigger like this. Do you guys think it's too big?

 

[MikeLou]

Ya, I'm going to customize. Gonna propose either by this Dec during our Japan trip or early next year on our anniversary. Ideally is in Dec if I can make it in time.
I'm going for something with side diamonds as that's what she wants. How it is designed will be up to me. I saw this ring video design and like how the spiral part encases up the diamond. I will change want to change the heart prongs to a more simple round prongs instead.

Overall, do you think this design will be too extravagant? Hope I can get some female opinions here. I don't have much female friends to ask arnd.
Do you think it's better to remove this part of the diamonds and keep it plain? Meaning that there will only be diamonds on the whitegold portion.

You can request for them to do up the 3D render for you to compare. Personally, I think its over the top for daily wear. My vote is to have the rosegold with no diamonds.

 

[poneglyph]

hi experts.

i've been tracking the prices of the sic offerred by jannpaul in this thread. rather curious how does price increase when the diamond moves 1 level in terms of carat, color and clarity.

taking 0.43 D VS1 $3050 as a reference, seems like every improvement in
a) 0.01 carat = $100
b) color alphabet = $100
c) clarity level = $100

is this the case?

so for a 0.44 D VVS1, am i to expect it to be $3350?

also, any idea what's the price jump from 0.43 D VS1 to 0.53 D VS1? will it be $1000 or more?

advise please!

 

[jonleelk]

That’s funny.
I said 3 are JP SIC but I didn’t say all of the rest are IC.
One of those stones belongs to u (which is not a JP SIC), and u picked the wrong one!!

Oops ... I actually meant (2) (5) (6) have the best SIC equivalent scopes.

(5) is mine, correct? SIC equivalent less the clarity!

 

[ThiamWan]

Need some help. My gf told me that she likes square diamonds and I intended to get the Princess cut. But after seeing it in real life, I dont like how it sparkles so differently like the round shape ones. The rounds looks way better and its not in the shape my gf wants. Then I saw the Octagon cut that fits the bill. Its the only square like diamond that have the hearts and arrows. The 88 facets is a plus point.

The Octagon overpowers the Princess when I compare them. Fire bigger, more flashes, more brighter, and overall in its own league. I did consider the Brellia too but its more cushion than square. I selected my Octagon to rotate this way to be square.

I want to change the prongs to be bigger like this. Do you guys think it's too big?

It does look more square with the triangle prongs. Size still seems ok from your drawing. Just like Mikelou suggested, ask them to do the actual 3D render for you. It will be proportional.

 

[ThiamWan]

hi experts.

i've been tracking the prices of the sic offerred by jannpaul in this thread. rather curious how does price increase when the diamond moves 1 level in terms of carat, color and clarity.

taking 0.43 D VS1 $3050 as a reference, seems like every improvement in
a) 0.01 carat = $100
b) color alphabet = $100
c) clarity level = $100

is this the case?

so for a 0.44 D VVS1, am i to expect it to be $3350?

also, any idea what's the price jump from 0.43 D VS1 to 0.53 D VS1? will it be $1000 or more?

advise please!

It should be abt there. The jumps are not consistent and can vary. Eg. F to E is $80, E to D is $100?
When it touches the 0.5 range, it’ll be a different ball park as it’s in the 0.50-0.69ct range.

 

[Miltah]

Oops ... I actually meant (2) (5) (6) have the best SIC equivalent scopes.

(5) is mine, correct? SIC equivalent less the clarity!

Yup 5 is yours

 

[poneglyph]

It should be abt there. The jumps are not consistent and can vary. Eg. F to E is $80, E to D is $100?
When it touches the 0.5 range, it’ll be a different ball park as it’s in the 0.50-0.69ct range.

I see thanks! Any other experts have idea about the pricing strategy?

 

[CaptainFantastic]

hi experts.

i've been tracking the prices of the sic offerred by jannpaul in this thread. rather curious how does price increase when the diamond moves 1 level in terms of carat, color and clarity.

taking 0.43 D VS1 $3050 as a reference, seems like every improvement in
a) 0.01 carat = $100
b) color alphabet = $100
c) clarity level = $100

is this the case?

so for a 0.44 D VVS1, am i to expect it to be $3350?

also, any idea what's the price jump from 0.43 D VS1 to 0.53 D VS1? will it be $1000 or more?

advise please!

It doesn't work that way. Going by that logic, a 1ct D VS1 will be 9k, and a 2ct D VS1 will be 19k.

Diamond prices is an accelerated curve. The bigger you get, the higher it will cost for each incremental. There are specific points where the price spikes. They are 0.40, 0.50, 0.70, etc. Which is why some might find that these round numbers don't give good value.

 

[MyNameIsBob]

Pmed you.*

I brought my ring out with my SO after my proposal to other stores.. We checked out usual chain stores over the weekend to compare (and I can explain to her how good her diamond is ). We can immediately see my SIC looking better than the others. I don't know how to describe it. The fire was more intense and have a deeper type of shine? The others were more like a surface type of shine that have that glassy effect. Not sure if I'm saying this correctly.. When my gf put her hands on the table, the first thing we see is how blindly sparkling the rock is. I think even the SA felt abit paiseh to see our ring looking better than the ones in their showcase. Walked out the store a happy man.

A happy wife is a happy life. Haha.
I already placed a deposit with them to hold my diamond. They got a new shipment of diamonds and I'm thinking to stick to my current one or change. Will be visiting them next week to talk abt my ring design too.

 

[poneglyph]

It doesn't work that way. Going by that logic, a 1ct D VS1 will be 9k, and a 2ct D VS1 will be 19k.

Diamond prices is an accelerated curve. The bigger you get, the higher it will cost for each incremental. There are specific points where the price spikes. They are 0.40, 0.50, 0.70, etc. Which is why some might find that these round numbers don't give good value.

Icic. How about the price variation within each carat group, in the other C categories?