Proposal Ring - Part 3

[1000smiles]

to be honest i didnt remember haha

but i used a macro lens and tried several shots until i was satisfied

Your set up quite professional
It's very hard to take close ups without a tripod

 

[1000smiles]

Hi guys.. Just curious, I got this GIA from a friend but the report doesn't have crown and Pavilion angles.. Anyone know why?

Gia 2151527381

It's a brilliant rose. For diamonds >57 facets, it won't show the cut grade on the certificate. You will need the ideal/aset/hearts scopes.

 

[tanch87]

Up for bro

Thanks alot! Anyone got any feedback for this diamond?

 

[Bak_Chor_Mee]

hi guys, any idea where can i buy those small engagement ring pillow for ROM use?

 

[donlaughla]

Btw guys, my friend purchased his proposal ring from some private distributor and the price is much cheaper than JannPaul.

His diamond is 0.61, d colour vs2 and only cost him abt $4k+, why such a hugh difference?

 

[tkcmage]

Btw guys, my friend purchased his proposal ring from some private distributor and the price is much cheaper than JannPaul.

His diamond is 0.61, d colour vs2 and only cost him abt $4k+, why such a hugh difference?

Depends on the cut, scopes of the diamond I Guess? My 0.62 E VS2, Super ideal cost $5350 from JP

 

[1000smiles]

Btw guys, my friend purchased his proposal ring from some private distributor and the price is much cheaper than JannPaul.

His diamond is 0.61, d colour vs2 and only cost him abt $4k+, why such a hugh difference?

Alot of factors affects price, fluoresence/cut/polish/symmetry. you can also get 1carat g vs2 for 5k. poor cut

 

[sandzstormz]

Private distributors will be cheaper than JP right? JP seems kinda "branded" in some way and price will definitely be higher for the same grade of diamond?

 

[Nickel.Bak]

Private distributors will be cheaper than JP right? JP seems kinda "branded" in some way and price will definitely be higher for the same grade of diamond?

Not really.. Super ideal cut is the quality of the diamond. Not the brand. To really determine if the diamond is a Super ideal cut quality, u must check the proportions and use those Ideal, Aset and Hearts n Arrows scopes. Some private distributors I went to only have those standard exc x3 stones or at most "ideal" cuts. One of the ones I went to also called theirs Super ideal cut. But when I asked if I could see it under those scopes, they say they don't have it. Which brings me to qn how they can actually call it a Super ideal cut then.

I even experienced one shop selling me their "Ideal cut" and when I went home to check the HCA score, it was 4.6... lol

What I learnt is never trust what the salesperson say. 90% of them will try to bs you in some ways. Best you can do is research yourself on what to analyse and the tests you need to do to check the diamond. JP gives a very good and comprehensive free diamond education tutorial. Learn from them and then go around and compare. Trust me, you'll find out how a lot of salesperson will try to smoke you. That's how I ended up back with JP. lol

 

[sandzstormz]

I am looking into this piece currently. I've run through the checks and apparently it seems to be a good piece of diamond? Any pros can comment? GIA 1159337499

 

[xorionn]

anyone insure ur ring? how much per year, say its a 20k ring

 

[donlaughla]

Alot of factors affects price, fluoresence/cut/polish/symmetry. you can also get 1carat g vs2 for 5k. poor cut

My friend told me it's a triple excellence diamond, with a hca score of 0.4 which is very good.
Hence, it brings me to the question of the pricing difference.

Of course, the Jann Paul is a brand operating by brick and mortar therefore they need to cover their rental and the salaries too.

 

[DanMWM]

My friend told me it's a triple excellence diamond, with a hca score of 0.4 which is very good.
Hence, it brings me to the question of the pricing difference.

Of course, the Jann Paul is a brand operating by brick and mortar therefore they need to cover their rental and the salaries too.

HCA is only for us to sort out the bad apples from the apples.
HCA score is gd still does not mean the diamond is gd. As the rest said, there are alot other factors which can bring down the price.

As you said, they need cover rental and salaries also. In addition, JP diamonds prices will change slightly depending on the currency exchange rate.

 

[你猜你猜你猜猜猜]

My friend told me it's a triple excellence diamond, with a hca score of 0.4 which is very good.
Hence, it brings me to the question of the pricing difference.

Of course, the Jann Paul is a brand operating by brick and mortar therefore they need to cover their rental and the salaries too.

Will be great, if you can get from your friend the certification from GIA, AGS etc and share here. Maybe another shop for us to consider too.

 

[Draculav]

HCA is a useful but not a reliable tool.

What you need to factor in is the,
1. HCA score
2. Ideal scope
3. ASET scope
4. Hearts & Arrows scope

All in all you have to be aware of the following drawbacks of the Holloway Cut Advisor:

The Holloway Cut Advisor does not take all facets into consideration that have an impact on the light performance of a diamond. The HCA tool disregards any minor facets (such as the star facets and the lower and upper girdle facets) when making its calculation. In reality though, the length of the lower girdle facets impacts the sparkling style of a diamond. A lower girdle facet with a bigger height would result in the diamond exhibiting pin flashes of light. A lower girdle facet with a smaller height however would result in a diamond with broader flashes of light. The Holloway Cut Advisor does not tell you anything about it.

The Holloway Cut Advisor score itself would not always be able to take this into consideration. And this is where the Holloway Cut Advisor comes to its limits. In the end you should never buy a diamond blindly and always have a close look at it before buying it. Even if you use the Holloway Cut Advisor.

Once you have singled out low performing diamonds you will have to select the best diamond by looking at an Idealscope image of each diamond. Idealscope images will give you very precise data on the light performance of a diamond and quickly reveal to you how much light leakage there is in a diamond.

That being said I think that the Holloway Cut Advisor is a great tool to narrow down your diamonds to the ones with a decent light performance. One just has to be aware that the Holloway Cut Advisor is exactly that and nothing more!

 

[Jench1745]

HCA is a useful but not a reliable tool.

What you need to factor in is the,
1. HCA score
2. Ideal scope
3. ASET scope
4. Hearts & Arrows scope

All in all you have to be aware of the following drawbacks of the Holloway Cut Advisor:

The Holloway Cut Advisor does not take all facets into consideration that have an impact on the light performance of a diamond. The HCA tool disregards any minor facets (such as the star facets and the lower and upper girdle facets) when making its calculation. In reality though, the length of the lower girdle facets impacts the sparkling style of a diamond. A lower girdle facet with a bigger height would result in the diamond exhibiting pin flashes of light. A lower girdle facet with a smaller height however would result in a diamond with broader flashes of light. The Holloway Cut Advisor does not tell you anything about it.

The Holloway Cut Advisor score itself would not always be able to take this into consideration. And this is where the Holloway Cut Advisor comes to its limits. In the end you should never buy a diamond blindly and always have a close look at it before buying it. Even if you use the Holloway Cut Advisor.

Once you have singled out low performing diamonds you will have to select the best diamond by looking at an Idealscope image of each diamond. Idealscope images will give you very precise data on the light performance of a diamond and quickly reveal to you how much light leakage there is in a diamond.

That being said I think that the Holloway Cut Advisor is a great tool to narrow down your diamonds to the ones with a decent light performance. One just has to be aware that the Holloway Cut Advisor is exactly that and nothing more!

Yup.. and it doesn't work on other diamonds like the octagon, brellia, etc.

 

[acerat009]

Hi, kind of going to JP to make my purchase and want to get some opinions on the pricing and specs given by them. 0.51 VS1 G super ideal cut 4000 dollars without setting. Is this pricing okay? Cheers guys!

 

[Draculav]

Hi, kind of going to JP to make my purchase and want to get some opinions on the pricing and specs given by them. 0.51 VS1 G super ideal cut 4000 dollars without setting. Is this pricing okay? Cheers guys!

Yeah, if you see a few pages back, the pricing is around there.

 

[lvlaTr1X]

Hi all, does Jann Paul have any 0 interest cc installment?

 

[pinkibeee]

Hi, kind of going to JP to make my purchase and want to get some opinions on the pricing and specs given by them. 0.51 VS1 G super ideal cut 4000 dollars without setting. Is this pricing okay? Cheers guys!

My 0.52, F, VS2 is $4.4k w/o setting. Hope it's a good gauge for you!