Proposal Ring - Part 4

[andytantravels]

Hi! May I know what were you quoted on the 0.91 diamond?

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It's a once in a lifetime purchase bro. I'd wait to get a custom cut one in your specs.

It'll take 4-6 weeks for them to handcraft your ring. You'll need to plus another couple of weeks if you plan to customize your design. Their 3D work will take 1-2 weeks and another week to do up a wax prototype. Since you're custom cutting cutting your diamond, you might as well custom design your ring also. They don't charge extra for custom works.

To save time, you can start your custom design while waiting for them to cut your diamond. Then once your diamond is ready, you'll have your design ready also then just need to wait the 4-6 weeks for them to craft.
Have fun with your ring 3D. My fren recently did his 3D with JP, and it looks different from the old ones they used to do. It looks very cool and realistic now.

Thanks. I've placed my order to custom cut with them liao. Excited to see what the cutter comes up with.

The Oval hears and arrows they quote me is 9.4k. Its a 0.91 E VVS2

 

[charlesdygreat]

Thanks for the comments. Our anniversary is in June. Hence, ideally I want to have the ring ready by then. But I guess you guys are right. I'll opt for the custom cut route. Good things have to wait I guess.

After the stone is ready, how long does it take for them to make the ring? I understand that the ring design can be customized too. Is it done concurrently while they custom cut the diamond? Or only after when the diamond is ready?

You can start doing the customization and 3D design while waiting for your diamond to be cut. Their 3Ds are very cool and realistic. I'm waiting for my ring to be crafted now. This is my 3D they sent me for my oval white series cut (there's actually alot more views they sent me). The 3D hand model is done in the same finger size as my gf. So you can also see how the final ring design and diamond size will look on her hand. Its quite fun to see the different variations they come up with in the designs. Best is to start the design part earlier, so you have more time to decide on the designs too.

 

[andytantravels]

Nice ring design! Thanks. I already started my 3D request and waiting for them to design it. Yours looks really cool.

 

[cenvish]

very good already. excellent purchase. wondering how long did you wait?

I waited closed to 4 months for it. Just got my scopes images, appreciate anyone can provide some feedback on whether its ok.

https://ibb.co/CmMnHQ1https://ibb.co/KXwFgvmhttps://ibb.co/hsn38PYhttps://ibb.co/hsn38PYhttps://ibb.co/9H17MPv

 

[unclebutcher]

With a 10k budget, what sort of size/cut can i expect?

 

[bentyh]

Hi All,

Just received the AGS cert for my diamond from JP. Appreciate your inputs. Thank you.

Decagon Brilliant
0.710 cts

Cut AGS Ideal 0
Color (E) AGS 0.5
Clarity (VVS2) AGS 2


AGS 104113876011

 

[lighteden]

Hello All,

Just got my AGS cert too, could anyone help to take a look and see if it's good?

Thank you.

Round Modified Brilliant
0.524 cts

Cut Grade AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade (D) AGS 0
Clarity (VVS2) AGS 2

AGS 104113850006

How much do the inclusions affect the diamond? I can see 5 pinpoints and 2 feathers:

Some gray areas along the edges of the diamond and the middle has some greens:

 

[ThiamWan]

Hi All,

Just received the AGS cert for my diamond from JP. Appreciate your inputs. Thank you.

Decagon Brilliant
0.710 cts

Cut AGS Ideal 0
Color (E) AGS 0.5
Clarity (VVS2) AGS 2


AGS 104113876011

That's their Decagon in their White Series range. For Cut, I know it's better than their SIC already. So the rest of the other 3Cs is if its in your preference. I feel E VVS2 is abit on the higher color and clarity end. I know JP already filter their VS1-VS2 to be eye clean and avoids risky inclusions. And the white series range will already look brighter than its color grade. So their lower colors would already look v ''white''. But of course no harm getting higher grades if you feel its better.

 

[ThiamWan]

Hello All,

Just got my AGS cert too, could anyone help to take a look and see if it's good?

Thank you.

Round Modified Brilliant
0.524 cts

Cut Grade AGS Ideal 0
Color Grade (D) AGS 0
Clarity (VVS2) AGS 2

AGS 104113850006

How much do the inclusions affect the diamond? I can see 5 pinpoints and 2 feathers:

Some gray areas along the edges of the diamond and the middle has some greens:

Hmmm.. VVS2 is on the high clarity grade. The clarity grade is determined by a few factors; number of inclusions, location of the inclusions and severity of it. More inclusions doesn't necessarily means its bad because it might also mean its less severe. Like if a diamond has only 1 inclusions, it may not necessarily be good too if its like a big black inclusions. Yours is a VVS2 so it'll definitely be eye clean since its already at the top clarity scale. The feather you pointed out still seems to be inside the diamond. If its on the edge, it would usually also reflect at the bottom part (pavilion side) of the diagram, but I dont see any inclusions there which is safe. Plus I remember JP doesn't accept inclusions on the surface of the diamond anyways.

The ASET is a screenshot from the AGS cert right? That's not the actual ASET photo. It's ''computer generated'' (you see the bottom notes on the AGS cert). The more accurate one is the actual ASET photo. Btw, I think you can get the rotation ASET video from JP too. I've been seeing it on their insta. That one lets you see the light return at all angles (not just the front). I think you can try requesting that from them.

 

[bentyh]

That's their Decagon in their White Series range. For Cut, I know it's better than their SIC already. So the rest of the other 3Cs is if its in your preference. I feel E VVS2 is abit on the higher color and clarity end. I know JP already filter their VS1-VS2 to be eye clean and avoids risky inclusions. And the white series range will already look brighter than its color grade. So their lower colors would already look v ''white''. But of course no harm getting higher grades if you feel its better.

Thanks for your feedback, I have a concern though. In the middle you can see it is green (less bright). Should this be a concern? Looking at lighteden's diamond, his middle portion is red indicating brightness.

https://app.photobucket.com/u/Benty...286971/p/8ab93d72-e039-44fb-8e9b-2572cdde4da8

 

[lighteden]

Hmmm.. VVS2 is on the high clarity grade. The clarity grade is determined by a few factors; number of inclusions, location of the inclusions and severity of it. More inclusions doesn't necessarily means its bad because it might also mean its less severe. Like if a diamond has only 1 inclusions, it may not necessarily be good too if its like a big black inclusions. Yours is a VVS2 so it'll definitely be eye clean since its already at the top clarity scale. The feather you pointed out still seems to be inside the diamond. If its on the edge, it would usually also reflect at the bottom part (pavilion side) of the diagram, but I dont see any inclusions there which is safe. Plus I remember JP doesn't accept inclusions on the surface of the diamond anyways.

The ASET is a screenshot from the AGS cert right? That's not the actual ASET photo. It's ''computer generated'' (you see the bottom notes on the AGS cert). The more accurate one is the actual ASET photo. Btw, I think you can get the rotation ASET video from JP too. I've been seeing it on their insta. That one lets you see the light return at all angles (not just the front). I think you can try requesting that from them.

Thanks for your input ThiamWan, I will request the ASET photo and rotation video from them.

May I know if we are not satisfied with the diamond, is it possible to request a change with JP?

 

[beermachine]

Thanks for your input ThiamWan, I will request the ASET photo and rotation video from them.

May I know if we are not satisfied with the diamond, is it possible to request a change with JP?

I know JP allows you to change diamonds as long as your ring is not crafted yet.

 

[beermachine]

Thanks for your feedback, I have a concern though. In the middle you can see it is green (less bright). Should this be a concern? Looking at lighteden's diamond, his middle portion is red indicating brightness.

https://app.photobucket.com/u/Benty...286971/p/8ab93d72-e039-44fb-8e9b-2572cdde4da8

I think this is a computer generated picture too.

 

[bentyh]

I think this is a computer generated picture too.

Hi beermachine, yes this is from the AGS cert. I have requested for the scope images too and they will send me by this week.

 

[ThiamWan]

Thanks for your feedback, I have a concern though. In the middle you can see it is green (less bright). Should this be a concern? Looking at lighteden's diamond, his middle portion is red indicating brightness.

https://app.photobucket.com/u/Benty...286971/p/8ab93d72-e039-44fb-8e9b-2572cdde4da8

I've seen some with the middle that is red, green or a mixture. That's the reflection of the culet area. The color of it doesnt matter cos it won't affect the performance. The more important parts will be the table and the girdle areas where it shouldn't have light leakages or too much greens. But rem what you're seeing is the computer generated ASET which may not be entirely accurate. JP does have very strict criteria for their cuts and light performance so you should be in safe hands, but no harm asking them for the actual scopes too.

 

[ThiamWan]

Hi all, able to help me see if this diamond from JP is considered good? if its not that great, ill wait for another one. Is the middle supposed to be fully red (indicating brightness)? this one seems like the middle is partially green which is less bright. also looks like there are feathers near the girdle (pavillion side), according to @ThiamWan, thats not good right?

Regarding why we got vvs2, its cos jp mentioned that vs1 and vvs2 wont make a significant price diff. so we just went ahead with vvs2. will request for aset scope soon, but just wanted to know your preliminary thoughts on this diamond.

https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104113876021/grading-report

The middle portion is ok (as my above post to bentyh).
Yours is a VVS1 (not VVS2). Usually for the diamond to be in the VVS1-VVS2 grades, the inclusion cannot be on the surface. To qualify in the VVS grades, the diamond usually won't have those durability risk inclusions already. Feather inclusions are ok as long as its internal (not exposed on the surface). Yours looks internal at the bottom half. Usually if its exposed on the edges, it would show on the clarity diagram at the top half of the diamond too. For a VVS1, you are very safe already. Given a choice, I would consider lowering the clarity grade to VS since JP is already strict on the inclusion types. But since there isn't much price diff, then the VVS1 is to your benefit.

P.S. I just saw my friend's Decagon diamond ring he just collected form JP. It's a 0.5ct and it looks damn sparkly.

 

[andytantravels]

You can start doing the customization and 3D design while waiting for your diamond to be cut. Their 3Ds are very cool and realistic. I'm waiting for my ring to be crafted now. This is my 3D they sent me for my oval white series cut (there's actually alot more views they sent me). The 3D hand model is done in the same finger size as my gf. So you can also see how the final ring design and diamond size will look on her hand. Its quite fun to see the different variations they come up with in the designs. Best is to start the design part earlier, so you have more time to decide on the designs too.

Btw, did you do yours in platinum or white gold? I'm thinking of making mine is rose gold but read its not that ideal for high color diamonds.

 

[CaptainFantastic]

Btw, did you do yours in platinum or white gold? I'm thinking of making mine is rose gold but read its not that ideal for high color diamonds.

As long as your diamond is a high light performing one, its ok to set it in other color metals. Those standard 3EXC will be problematic as the light leakage area will show the metal color when the diamond is set. But if your diamond has a full light return, then it doesn't matter since whatever your seeing in the diamond is from the light reflection on top and you won't be seeing though the diamond. Yours is their white series right? Their white series is the top of the top range for light performance. Even if you set your diamond on black gold, it will still be very bright

 

[bentyh]

Just got my scope images today, any feedback is much appreciated!

Decagon Brilliant ( White Series Jann Paul)
0.710 cts

Cut AGS Ideal 0
Color (E) AGS 0.5
Clarity (VVS2) AGS 2

https://ibb.co/7j1bmkkhttps://ibb.co/tCPwvGXhttps://ibb.co/tYKYnywhttps://ibb.co/hHwZQdf

 

[stephenricebowl]

Just got my scope images today, any feedback is much appreciated!

Decagon Brilliant ( White Series Jann Paul)
0.710 cts

Cut AGS Ideal 0
Color (E) AGS 0.5
Clarity (VVS2) AGS 2

https://ibb.co/7j1bmkkhttps://ibb.co/tCPwvGXhttps://ibb.co/tYKYnywhttps://ibb.co/hHwZQdf

Swee! The scopes looks perfect. Their cut precision is the next level. Was yours a custom order?