Proposal Ring - Part 4

[octsky]

We just went down to JP this week and got quoted for this cushion diamond @ 3+k:
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104112812001/grading-report?weight=0.484
We're thinking of going to Poh Kim for a bigger carat (maybe less ideal cut). Budget is about 5k including setting (halo + pave). Any advice from the experts here? TYIA!

 

[Butterscotch28]

We just went down to JP this week and got quoted for this cushion diamond @ 3+k:
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104112812001/grading-report?weight=0.484
We're thinking of going to Poh Kim for a bigger carat (maybe less ideal cut). Budget is about 5k including setting (halo + pave). Any advice from the experts here? TYIA!

I believe JP’s cushion 8 is the best performing cushion you can find in the market right now and a halo + pave setting could cost less than 1.5k (check with your sales rep), so if you are specifically only looking for cushion cut diamond, I’ll still recommend you go with JP’s cushion 8 cause there’s no point getting a bigger carat that doesn’t perform as well as JP’s cushion 8 as then it will just look dull and meh. Just my two cents.

 

[CrunchTime]

Hi!

1) Can I have your thoughts on this GIA certified diamond pls. Anything I should be concerned about regarding its specs?

2) On an unrelated note, would you spend $300-400 more than quoted price so that you can pay with credit card (to collect points/miles - have not decided which card to use if so), or save that money and just pay via paynow/bank transfer? Quoted price is $11k+

 

[Beta_Tester]

Yeah I was thinking which few credit card to use for points! Haha

 

[1000smiles]

We just went down to JP this week and got quoted for this cushion diamond @ 3+k:
https://agslab.com/ym-vdgr/en-us/diamonds/104112812001/grading-report?weight=0.484
We're thinking of going to Poh Kim for a bigger carat (maybe less ideal cut). Budget is about 5k including setting (halo + pave). Any advice from the experts here? TYIA!

JP’s cushion HA is different from the other cushions. It’s much better and will shine brighter. If a Diamond is big and dull, also no use.

 

[SurfOn]

Hi!

1) Can I have your thoughts on this GIA certified diamond pls. Anything I should be concerned about regarding its specs?

2) On an unrelated note, would you spend $300-400 more than quoted price so that you can pay with credit card (to collect points/miles - have not decided which card to use if so), or save that money and just pay via paynow/bank transfer? Quoted price is $11k+

Better to look at the aset scope to assess the light returns and leakages.

 

[CrunchTime]

Thanks! But specs wise, does it look it'll perform well? Haha

 

[HansenDeHardwarezone]

Hi!

1) Can I have your thoughts on this GIA certified diamond pls. Anything I should be concerned about regarding its specs?

2) On an unrelated note, would you spend $300-400 more than quoted price so that you can pay with credit card (to collect points/miles - have not decided which card to use if so), or save that money and just pay via paynow/bank transfer? Quoted price is $11k+

all measurements are looking good.

you will able to see H&A. but can not determine symmetry of H&A, any light leakage. if possible, you request an ideal scope or aset image of the diamond to verify cutting consistency and predicted light performance.

GIA numbers are rounded, alsotaking average measure measurements. e.g. average of 8 measurements for crown & pavilion angle, star length, and average of 16 measurements for lower half length, upper half length.

Therefore,
- When pavilion angle is 40.8 ° any crown angle above is okay
- When pavilion angle is 40.6 ° lean toward crown angle 34.5 – 35.0 °
- When pavilion angle is 41.0 ° lean toward crown angle 34.0-34.5 °
- When pavilion angle is 40.8 ° and crown angle is 35 ° lower halves need to be 80%

 

[CrunchTime]

all measurements are looking good.

you will able to see H&A. but can not determine symmetry of H&A, any light leakage. if possible, you request an ideal scope or aset image of the diamond to verify cutting consistency and predicted light performance.

GIA numbers are rounded, alsotaking average measure measurements. e.g. average of 8 measurements for crown & pavilion angle, star length, and average of 16 measurements for lower half length, upper half length.

Therefore,
- When pavilion angle is 40.8 ° any crown angle above is okay
- When pavilion angle is 40.6 ° lean toward crown angle 34.5 – 35.0 °
- When pavilion angle is 41.0 ° lean toward crown angle 34.0-34.5 °
- When pavilion angle is 40.8 ° and crown angle is 35 ° lower halves need to be 80%

Thank you! I take it that it's (likely) a good performing diamond then.

I did look through the ASET scope and the H&A didn't show up the clearest / wasn't fully symmetrical (as compared to Super Ideal), but honestly can't really remember how it looks like now since I was quite overwhelmed deciding. Haha...

On my other question oncredit card (whether to pay with credit card which entails spending $300-400 more than quoted price), any input on that? Anyone?

 

[1000smiles]

Hi!

1) Can I have your thoughts on this GIA certified diamond pls. Anything I should be concerned about regarding its specs?

2) On an unrelated note, would you spend $300-400 more than quoted price so that you can pay with credit card (to collect points/miles - have not decided which card to use if so), or save that money and just pay via paynow/bank transfer? Quoted price is $11k+

The crown and pavilion angle is within the ‘Ideal’ range but they’re both in the steep end of the ideal range. So the combination of 35 and 41 isn’t that good. Like 41 pavilion shld be combined with max 34.5 crown. When both crown and pavilion are steep in combo, that’s where the light leakages will start appearing.
The HCA score is 2.2 (best is under 1.4).
You can try taking a pic of the ASET scope and post here. That will be the most accurate. But 35/41 combo isn’t a Super ideal cut range.

 

[CrunchTime]

The crown and pavilion angle is within the ‘Ideal’ range but they’re both in the steep end of the ideal range. So the combination of 35 and 41 isn’t that good. Like 41 pavilion shld be combined with max 34.5 crown. When both crown and pavilion are steep in combo, that’s where the light leakages will start appearing.
The HCA score is 2.2 (best is under 1.4).
You can try taking a pic of the ASET scope and post here. That will be the most accurate. But 35/41 combo isn’t a Super ideal cut range.

Ahh - uhh uh did I choose a "bad" diamond then? Not sure if I still can get a pic of the ASET scope but I can try to obtain it...

Or put in another way, will the light leakages be quite bad that I should reconsider getting this diamond.

The diagram however shows 34.5 crown angle and 40.6 pavilion? I suppose it's then rounded up

 

[1000smiles]

Ahh - uhh uh did I choose a "bad" diamond then? Not sure if I still can get a pic of the ASET scope but I can try to obtain it...

Or put in another way, will the light leakages be quite bad that I should reconsider getting this diamond.

The diagram however shows 34.5 crown angle and 40.6 pavilion? I suppose it's then rounded up

35 and 41 isn’t really an ideal combo. Cos that’s there the light leakages will start to get bad. The crown and pavilion isn’t rounded up/down. Eg. It can be 40.6, 40.7, 40.8, 40.9, etc.

Where did you see on the diagram is 34.5 and 40.6? Mine shows 35 and 41.

 

[CrunchTime]

35 and 41 isn’t really an ideal combo. Cos that’s there the light leakages will start to get bad. The crown and pavilion isn’t rounded up/down. Eg. It can be 40.6, 40.7, 40.8, 40.9, etc.

Where did you see on the diagram is 34.5 and 40.6? Mine shows 35 and 41.

Oops, i don't know what I was seeing when I said that. Yes 35 and 41...

Dang - now I'm thinking if I should reconsider/cancel my order. I've just placed the deposit on Saturday but balance to be paid on collection. Maybe I can still change it in time......?

 

[octsky]

I believe JP’s cushion 8 is the best performing cushion you can find in the market right now and a halo + pave setting could cost less than 1.5k (check with your sales rep), so if you are specifically only looking for cushion cut diamond, I’ll still recommend you go with JP’s cushion 8 cause there’s no point getting a bigger carat that doesn’t perform as well as JP’s cushion 8 as then it will just look dull and meh. Just my two cents.

thank you for your valuable input!

 

[octsky]

JP’s cushion HA is different from the other cushions. It’s much better and will shine brighter. If a Diamond is big and dull, also no use.

yes their cushion 8 is really impressive, thx for the video link!

 

[1000smiles]

Oops, i don't know what I was seeing when I said that. Yes 35 and 41...

Dang - now I'm thinking if I should reconsider/cancel my order. I've just placed the deposit on Saturday but balance to be paid on collection. Maybe I can still change it in time......?

If they still allow to change it, I think you should. 35/41 is a steep deep already and from the ASET scope, you should be able to detect the light leakages liao.

 

[freewilly5000]

Ahh - uhh uh did I choose a "bad" diamond then? Not sure if I still can get a pic of the ASET scope but I can try to obtain it...

Or put in another way, will the light leakages be quite bad that I should reconsider getting this diamond.

The diagram however shows 34.5 crown angle and 40.6 pavilion? I suppose it's then rounded up

hmm... that's strange. The proportions don't really match up with what you're saying about the scopes. 35 crown and 41 pavilion is on the steep end and it should show light leakages on the ASET. That is also what is giving it a higher HCA score (lower the better). Mind sharing the ASET image of it? cos it doesn't seem to tally.

 

[yoongcy421]

Ahh - uhh uh did I choose a "bad" diamond then? Not sure if I still can get a pic of the ASET scope but I can try to obtain it...

Or put in another way, will the light leakages be quite bad that I should reconsider getting this diamond.

The diagram however shows 34.5 crown angle and 40.6 pavilion? I suppose it's then rounded up

is this from JP or from other seller?

 

[HansenDeHardwarezone]

is this from JP or from other seller?

seems like from other seller. JP doesn't use GIA certs.

 

[CrunchTime]

Thanks all.

Yes, this is not from JP.

I have managed to obtain the ASET scope pic of the diamond from the dealer (they said they have already sent it to the factory after I had confirmed the order and hence didnt have the physical diamond to show me) and here it is:



My question is - does the above ASET match the specs of the diamond in your view? It looks rather symmetrical to me but I don't recall it was that "good" when I viewed it, although I can't exactly recall now.