Proposal Ring - Part 4

[ttmaxx]

Could you guys recommend which credit card to use? Can I do split payments? Currently looking at AMEX KrisFlyer. Thanks so much in advance!

JP can do split payments. Though I think its usually done for cashback cards that has the monthly rebate caps. I used my Citibank miles card for mine because the points never expires. Not sure when I we can fly again.

 

[stanleyluilai]

Do you guys know if they do crafting videos like these of the wedding bands too? I'm thinking of custom making our wedding bands with the decagon melees. Bought their oval hearts and arrows white series cut for my engagement ring and want to combine it with another white series shape.

 

[love2feed]

I was quoted 0.62 G VVS1 for 6K and 0.60 F VVF2 for 6.2K. Can you guys advise of colour or clarity is more important ? seek the expertise here

 

[ong.brendan]

I was quoted 0.62 G VVS1 for 6K and 0.60 F VVF2 for 6.2K. Can you guys advise of colour or clarity is more important ? seek the expertise here

I would put Color > Clarity. VVS1 and VVS2 wont be able to see any difference when both are eye clean. F and G color tbh, is not easy to see 1 color difference but its also the the borderline getting a ''colorless'' or ''near colorless'' diamond. If you're going for JP's White series, then it really doesn't matter. But G color still looks v white because of its super high light return and cut.

 

[jamwithyou]

Hi guys, thank you for all the contributions and advises from the shifus here. It's my turn to post my diamond and ask for comments. This it the fire video of my decagon diamond.




There's also an ASET rotational video to see the light return of the diamond at tilts. From what I understand, the red areas are the strong light return which makes the diamond brighter. So even at tilted views, the decagon still has alot of reds and will look just as bright. Is this correct?




Anything else I should look out for? Any comments will be appreciated

 

[akimakisato]

Hi guys, thank you for all the contributions and advises from the shifus here. It's my turn to post my diamond and ask for comments. This it the fire video of my decagon diamond.




There's also an ASET rotational video to see the light return of the diamond at tilts. From what I understand, the red areas are the strong light return which makes the diamond brighter. So even at tilted views, the decagon still has alot of reds and will look just as bright. Is this correct?




Anything else I should look out for? Any comments will be appreciated

Your Decagon is very nice! Yeah, the ASET rotation video gives more info than the static ASET pic. Basically, you want to see more reds (light return) at the tilts as well. A good ASET frontal view may not necessarily mean that it will maintain the reds at tilts as well. Your Decagon light performance is still great at tilts. I believe thats what JP White Series collection is all about. Outperforming the super ideal cut rounds and also being more sparkly at tilts.

 

[sotongster]

hi all , new here. looking to get some advice..

was quote lab grown for 0.7 - 0.79 for 25xx - 28xx ...
and 0.8 to 0.89 for 31xx - 35xx

want to know if i've been chopped carrot. can anyone advise?

 

[sgcelineng]

hi all , new here. looking to get some advice..

was quote lab grown for 0.7 - 0.79 for 25xx - 28xx ...
and 0.8 to 0.89 for 31xx - 35xx

want to know if i've been chopped carrot. can anyone advise?

Got more info? It depends on the cut, color, clarity grade, type of cert, etc.
For reference, I was quoted in SK jewelry a lab grown 0.71 F VS1 for $3.5k (IGI certified). Yours is almost 1k cheaper. Plus I won't go for IGI certs (better to stick with GIA or AGS). Where did you see your lab growns?

 

[eleisonz]

Hello, checked out the decagon at JP last week and was shown this particular ready stock diamond - 104115721009. However, there are a few pinpoints and not sure if that's normal. Otherwise would go for the custom route~ Appreciate any views, cheers!

 

[Miltah]

hi all , new here. looking to get some advice..

was quote lab grown for 0.7 - 0.79 for 25xx - 28xx ...
and 0.8 to 0.89 for 31xx - 35xx

want to know if i've been chopped carrot. can anyone advise?

That’s the ball park figures for JPs lab grown

 

[Miltah]

Hello, checked out the decagon at JP last week and was shown this particular ready stock diamond - 104115721009. However, there are a few pinpoints and not sure if that's normal. Otherwise would go for the custom route~ Appreciate any views, cheers!

Dun need to worry with vvs clarity and certainly not with it being at 0.5c

 

[_death_god]

Hi guys, went diamond shopping at jannpaul and another jeweller.

0.8c SIC (57 cuts) G VS2: quoted $7.6inclusive of setting - another jeweller
0.76 Decagon G VS2: quoted $8.7k inclusive of setting (at this price should be able to get 0.85c SIC)

I know its comparing apple to orange, but will it be worth to go for decagon despite the smaller caret and higher price tag?

I didnt have side by side comparison but i was thinking the SIC looks bling bling as well.
I am in a dilemma now

 

[sotongster]

Hi guys, went diamond shopping at jannpaul and another jeweller.

0.8c SIC (57 cuts) G VS2: quoted $7.6inclusive of setting - another jeweller
0.76 Decagon G VS2: quoted $8.7k inclusive of setting (at this price should be able to get 0.85c SIC)

I know its comparing apple to orange, but will it be worth to go for decagon despite the smaller caret and higher price tag?

I didnt have side by side comparison but i was thinking the SIC looks bling bling as well.
I am in a dilemma now

may i know what is sic?

 

[FroztSpectre]

Hi guys, went diamond shopping at jannpaul and another jeweller.

0.8c SIC (57 cuts) G VS2: quoted $7.6inclusive of setting - another jeweller
0.76 Decagon G VS2: quoted $8.7k inclusive of setting (at this price should be able to get 0.85c SIC)

I know its comparing apple to orange, but will it be worth to go for decagon despite the smaller caret and higher price tag?

I didnt have side by side comparison but i was thinking the SIC looks bling bling as well.
I am in a dilemma now

Didn't know other shops uses the term Super Ideal Cut as well.
Thought those that uses AGS cert will just say AGS Ideal, and those that uses GIA will just say (Triple) Excellent lol.

 

[Miltah]

Hi guys, went diamond shopping at jannpaul and another jeweller.

0.8c SIC (57 cuts) G VS2: quoted $7.6inclusive of setting - another jeweller
0.76 Decagon G VS2: quoted $8.7k inclusive of setting (at this price should be able to get 0.85c SIC)

I know its comparing apple to orange, but will it be worth to go for decagon despite the smaller caret and higher price tag?

I didnt have side by side comparison but i was thinking the SIC looks bling bling as well.
I am in a dilemma now

I would pay JP half the price and get 30% more caret with their lab grown
At least cut is confirmed

 

[basicbrenda]

Hi guys, went diamond shopping at jannpaul and another jeweller.

0.8c SIC (57 cuts) G VS2: quoted $7.6inclusive of setting - another jeweller
0.76 Decagon G VS2: quoted $8.7k inclusive of setting (at this price should be able to get 0.85c SIC)

I know its comparing apple to orange, but will it be worth to go for decagon despite the smaller caret and higher price tag?

I didnt have side by side comparison but i was thinking the SIC looks bling bling as well.
I am in a dilemma now

I will pick the decagon for the better sparkles. One thing to note is that you're seeing the comparison at different place in shop lights. Jewelry shop lights will all make it look good. Another thing is the ''SIC'' term is often misused. I've seen jewellers labelling their diamonds as SIC even though they got no ASET to show or the HCA score is 3-5. So you'll need to double check if its truly an SIC or not.

I'm planning to upgrade my diamond to the Decagon myself

 

[_death_god]

may i know what is sic?

Super ideal cut

Didn't know other shops uses the term Super Ideal Cut as well.
Thought those that uses AGS cert will just say AGS Ideal, and those that uses GIA will just say (Triple) Excellent lol.

the GIA cert shows Excellence so i presume its SIC

I would pay JP half the price and get 30% more caret with their lab grown
At least cut is confirmed

I doubt my other half is okay with lab grown

I will pick the decagon for the better sparkles. One thing to note is that you're seeing the comparison at different place in shop lights. Jewelry shop lights will all make it look good. Another thing is the ''SIC'' term is often misused. I've seen jewellers labelling their diamonds as SIC even though they got no ASET to show or the HCA score is 3-5. So you'll need to double check if its truly an SIC or not.

I'm planning to upgrade my diamond to the Decagon myself

Really a dilemma...
Bigger size vs bling bling...

 

[FroztSpectre]

Super ideal cut


the GIA cert shows Excellence so i presume its SIC


I doubt my other half is okay with lab grown


Really a dilemma...
Bigger size vs bling bling...

You mistaken already.
Excellent is just excellent.

Super Ideal Cut is a terminology given out by JannPaul (and potentially other jewellery shop).

JannPaul's super ideal cut is stricter than just triple Excellent.
Meaning to say, JannPaul will "discard"/"disregard" certain GIA Triple Excellent diamonds as it doesn't fit their "Super Ideal Cut" criteria.
Of course, some other jewellery might consider "Triple Excellent" as a their own form of "Super Ideal Cut", but this cannot be compared with JannPaul's standard.

Analogy:
In O Levels, to get A1 is means 75 marks and above. Parent A may consider A1 as his "Super Smart Student" standard, while Parent B (JannPaul) will say only marks above 90 are considered "Super Smart Student".
So basically a student with 79 marks will be considered "Super Smart Student" by Parent A, but JannPaul will reject student A as he failed JannPaul's "Super Smart Student" criteria. What is true though, is that based on O level marking scheme, both are "A1" students.

GIA Triple Excellent cuts are freaking easy to find, it doesn't mean it's SIC. For example, if you search BlueNile's website, you can easily find 0.5c Triple Excellent, F color, VS1 clarity for S$1900.
https://www.bluenile.com/sg/diamond-details/LD18022847?refTab=DIAMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails
But take a deeper look, it has a "Very Strong Blue" florescence, and the proportion (Depth% of 59.9% and Table % of 62.0%) isn't that great.

So this kind of diamond would be rejected by JannPaul.

Now we take a look at another BlueNile's diamond, same thing. 0.51c, Triple Excellent, F Color, VS1 Clarity, is going for S$3,284. It still has Faint Florescence. I don't have the ASET scope, no H&A scope, no HCA score, so it's hard to tell whether it's good or not. Depth of 62.4% and Table of 56.0%.

https://www.bluenile.com/sg/diamond-details/LD16997136?refTab=DIAMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails
Again, that does not mean that the S$3,284 diamond will fit into JannPaul's SIC criteria. If JannPaul only considers Depth % of 61-62%, and Table % of 54%-57%, means this S$3,284 will immediately be disregarded because it crossed JannPaul's Depth criteria. But guess what, BlueNile ownself say that this diamond is their "Astor Ideal" diamonds.

BUT i have to stress ah, I can't remember what is JannPaul's SIC criteria for their proportions. It could jolly well be Table of 54-57% and Depth of 61-62.5%, which then means that the BlueNile diamond could POTENTIALLY be considered a "SIC" diamond by JannPaul IFFFFFFFF it passes other JannPaul's criteria testing as well. JannPaul does quite a fair bit of "QC" to filter out diamonds for their "Super Ideal Cut" diamonds, so it isn't just about the Triple Excellent, or just the diamond proportions.

Edited again:
Might just want to take a look at this video, showcasing that 3 diamonds with the same specs, have very different "bling" to it. You can't just look at Triple Excellent diamonds and think they're all Super Ideal Cuts.

I'm not an employee nor do i have any stake in JannPaul.

 

[Miltah]

Super ideal cut


the GIA cert shows Excellence so i presume its SIC


I doubt my other half is okay with lab grown


Really a dilemma...
Bigger size vs bling bling...

If u are just comparing a triple-X vs JP, u might find better cuts of tripleX at House of Hung n it will be cheaper than JPs

 

[chewmenow]

Super ideal cut


the GIA cert shows Excellence so i presume its SIC


I doubt my other half is okay with lab grown


Really a dilemma...
Bigger size vs bling bling...

Like the rest said, the ''Triple Excellent'' term is a very loose. But even if you compare a true SIC and the Decagon, the Decagon will still outperform the SIC. If in dilemma, go to the shop to compare a true SIC and Decagon side by side and ask to show you outdoors and different lightings. Then you can have more real life scenario on the differences to decide.