[Recommend] Good Mechanical Keyboard

[Phen8210]

i guess most custom keyboard users are not avid hardcore gamers so to them, latency especially on wifi, will not be the not their prwiority they are considering. more of them are either looking for aesthetic or the ASMR sound.

of course, there will be a group that want it all, performance, sound, aesthetic. there is where more soho brands like wooting, melgeek, wuque are starting to go hall effect switches.

Recently, there's been a rapid rise in the number of 'budget' enthusiast keyboards focused on aesthetics and sound profiles.. but this is at the expense of durability, seamlessness, and functionality.

If you buy those keyboards on Taobao instead of English sites, it only costs $30-$80 for their base models, and the same product sells for $100+ on English and international websites by middlemen.

The reviewers who don't even plug in that keyboard are hyping it up like crazy, even though the keyboard community knows some issues regarding actual usage and breaking functionality. I can't actually recommend these kind of keyboards for someone that is going to use the keyboard everyday as their main keyboard. Yes, its cheap, but it seems like a POOR choice in the long run.

Mainstream brands like Wooting, Asus, Razer, Steelseries, and probably others are already taking note of this enthusiast stuff and integrating it into their keyboards. Even if some of them have flaws, they usually aren't too severe and provide better QA/QC. Overall, with their establishment and policies, they must meet specific standards, and it just feels safer to buy from them because it's an electronic product after all.

 

[alexion2k]

Recently, there's been a rapid rise in the number of 'budget' enthusiast keyboards focused on aesthetics and sound profiles.. but this is at the expense of durability, seamlessness, and functionality.

If you buy those keyboards on Taobao instead of English sites, it only costs $30-$80 for their base models, and the same product sells for $100+ on English and international websites by middlemen.

The reviewers who don't even plug in that keyboard are hyping it up like crazy, even though the keyboard community knows some issues regarding actual usage and breaking functionality. I can't actually recommend these kind of keyboards for someone that is going to use the keyboard everyday as their main keyboard. Yes, its cheap, but it seems like a POOR choice in the long run.

Mainstream brands like Wooting, Asus, Razer, Steelseries, and probably others are already taking note of this enthusiast stuff and integrating it into their keyboards. Even if some of them have flaws, they usually aren't too severe and provide better QA/QC. Overall, with their establishment and policies, they must meet specific standards, and it just feels safer to buy from them because it's an electronic product after all.

agreed on this. that why i only bought from the taobao. I noticed the difference between the prices as well.

Quality wise, if you dig this hobby long enough, some indie brands do have better quality/options even compared to mainstream. Maybe not the product as a whole, but some part specifically. ie. kit, switches, kepcaps.

Mainstream brand leads towards the performance since they are mostly coming from the pc hardware/gaming industry. While these indie brands have their own focus. Like it's really hard finding a full aluminum keyboard on a mainstream brand or trying to find a silent tactile/linear switches or finding certain keypcaps profile (ASA/cherry/MDA/OEM/MOA etc, and of course, kepcaps design.

It goes back to what you need in a keyboard really.

 

[ragnarok95]

There are crazy people willing to pay for a real set of GMK keycaps which can cost more than a razer/asus keyboard.

Just cancelled my GB from mecha. Time to look at taobao and some other KB site. Wasted my 7 months waiting.

 

[stanlawj]

Revolutionary new mechanical keyboard: (Either you hate it or love it)
https://forgekeyboard.com/
The layout:

I'm not a software developer. Hence this keyboard is not useful to me. I prefer to see all keys including multimedia controls separately.

 

[Phen8210]

There are crazy people willing to pay for a real set of GMK keycaps which can cost more than a razer/asus keyboard.

Just cancelled my GB from mecha. Time to look at taobao and some other KB site. Wasted my 7 months waiting.

and if it doesnt come perfect you must keep quiet or the cult will get mad

 

[SerSiTiv]

and if it doesnt come perfect you must keep quiet or the cult will get mad

Really? I think paying that price, the freaking thing better comes as described.

It's like buying an LV but it does not come perfect. Sure make noise one, cult or no cult.

 

[hyperfuse]

Recently, there's been a rapid rise in the number of 'budget' enthusiast keyboards focused on aesthetics and sound profiles.. but this is at the expense of durability, seamlessness, and functionality.

If you buy those keyboards on Taobao instead of English sites, it only costs $30-$80 for their base models, and the same product sells for $100+ on English and international websites by middlemen.

The reviewers who don't even plug in that keyboard are hyping it up like crazy, even though the keyboard community knows some issues regarding actual usage and breaking functionality. I can't actually recommend these kind of keyboards for someone that is going to use the keyboard everyday as their main keyboard. Yes, its cheap, but it seems like a POOR choice in the long run.

Mainstream brands like Wooting, Asus, Razer, Steelseries, and probably others are already taking note of this enthusiast stuff and integrating it into their keyboards. Even if some of them have flaws, they usually aren't too severe and provide better QA/QC. Overall, with their establishment and policies, they must meet specific standards, and it just feels safer to buy from them because it's an electronic product after all.

Depends on the brand of keyboard in taobao maybe?

I bought the hi75 and it's all over in youtube. These reviewers do plug in and use.

I personally bought 3 diff colors and they are my daily driver now. Really sounds good out of the box and it's way better than my corsair, razer, keychron and logitech keyboards in terms of the sound of the keyboard. Typing on the hi75 is really nice as compared to all the mainstream brands and best of all the price is like a quarter of what I pay for those brands.

Been using them for months now and got no issue with durability or any QC problem leh. Works all fine for my use case. It's a keyboard..not a pc. Dont need it to have so many functions to enjoy typing on it though. Does the job well.

 

[Phen8210]

Depends on the brand of keyboard in taobao maybe?

To a certain extent as they are mainly from the same factory. They are all $50 'enthusiast' keyboards from the official stores. Pay anything more is a ripoff. @alexion2k also knows this lol.

I bought the hi75 and it's all over in youtube. These reviewers do plug in and use.

I personally bought 3 diff colors and they are my daily driver now. Really sounds good out of the box and it's way better than my corsair, razer, keychron and logitech keyboards in terms of the sound of the keyboard. Typing on the hi75 is really nice as compared to all the mainstream brands and best of all the price is like a quarter of what I pay for those brands.

Been using them for months now and got no issue with durability or any QC problem leh. Works all fine for my use case. It's a keyboard..not a pc. Dont need it to have so many functions to enjoy typing on it though. Does the job well.

I'm curious about your point about using 3 keyboards as daily drivers. To truly assess durability and QA issues, you need extensive, consistent use from a typical end user who uses the same keyboard for 8 hours daily.

The Leobog Hi75, like many $50 enthusiast keyboards, has issues such as cheap screws, poor tolerances, rough and unpolished internals, and sometimes even premature failures. If your usage is minimal, these problems might not be noticeable. However, many users who buy these keyboards want to customize them.

This long-term review accurately reflects not only the Hi75 but also many $50 enthusiast keyboards, which often have similar shortcomings.

Spoiler

In the future, mainstream brands will offer superior enthusiast keyboards due to their manufacturing quality and mass-production capabilities. For example, my ROG Azoth is a fully customizable enthusiast-grade keyboard that costs about $200 from Amazon, but it's better in almost every aspect than many enthusiast keyboards. The lack of the metal bottom half isn't a real issue for me because it's 1.2 kg, and the dense plastic used at the bottom is not cheap and gives it a premium feel. Everything, from the outside to the inside, is precisely manufactured and engineered.

On my Azoth, when I take a keycap off or a switch, remove a screw, or separate the case, everything feels very precise and constructed with tight tolerances. The internals have no scuffs, blemishes, uneven surfaces, or scratches at all. Every aspect, from ergonomics, performance, functionality, and customizability to precision and tolerances, is simply superior.

However, many people in the enthusiast keyboard community are prejudiced against them because they want to support their favorite niche brands and are using ridiculous arguments to push their agenda.

I could return my $200 Azoth and keep my $50 keyboards, but the opposite is true. I would want to return my $50 keyboards. The best way to put it is that most of these $50 'enthusiast' keyboards are all brawn and have no brain, which doesn't make them great for everyday use, and some even culprits at a higher price point since they were all made cheap to begin with.

 

[hyperfuse]

To a certain extent as they are mainly from the same factory. They are all $50 'enthusiast' keyboards from the official stores. Pay anything more is a ripoff. @alexion2k also knows this lol.

I'm curious about your point about using 3 keyboards as daily drivers. To truly assess durability and QA issues, you need extensive, consistent use from a typical end user who uses the same keyboard for 8 hours daily.

The Leobog Hi75, like many $50 enthusiast keyboards, has issues such as cheap screws, poor tolerances, rough and unpolished internals, and sometimes even premature failures. If your usage is minimal, these problems might not be noticeable. However, many users who buy these keyboards want to customize them.

This long-term review accurately reflects not only the Hi75 but also many $50 enthusiast keyboards, which often have similar shortcomings.

Spoiler

In the future, mainstream brands will offer superior enthusiast keyboards due to their manufacturing quality and mass-production capabilities. For example, my ROG Azoth is a fully customizable enthusiast-grade keyboard that costs about $200 from Amazon, but it's better in almost every aspect than many enthusiast keyboards. The lack of the metal bottom half isn't a real issue for me because it's 1.2 kg, and the dense plastic used at the bottom is not cheap and gives it a premium feel. Everything, from the outside to the inside, is precisely manufactured and engineered.

On my Azoth, when I take a keycap off or a switch, remove a screw, or separate the case, everything feels very precise and constructed with tight tolerances. The internals have no scuffs, blemishes, uneven surfaces, or scratches at all. Every aspect, from ergonomics, performance, functionality, and customizability to precision and tolerances, is simply superior.

However, many people in the enthusiast keyboard community are prejudiced against them because they want to support their favorite niche brands and are using ridiculous arguments to push their agenda.

I could return my $200 Azoth and keep my $50 keyboards, but the opposite is true. I would want to return my $50 keyboards. The best way to put it is that most of these $50 'enthusiast' keyboards are all brawn and have no brain, which doesn't make them great for everyday use, and some even culprits at a higher price point since they were all made cheap to begin with.

I do use for a few months already. I bought 3 because using different keycaps and switches, but mainly stick to using one of it cuz loving the typing feel of that particular switch and keycaps, other 2 for show on a keyboard rack.

Purpose of buying hi75 is because it already sound nice out of the box by putting in preferred switches and keycaps. I didn't bother to open up or check the screws as it's already acoustically sounding to my liking. I think most ppl who buy hi75 will agree, no need to tinker anything except for using your own preferred keycap and switches.

So durability wise..I can't really fully say it's durable but as a daily driver for months, everything worked fine and is still are. I bought a keyboard for convenience and it's sound, not to open up and tinker it, that's for the enthusiast community I guess.

Last time I tried tinker the keychron q3 aluminium board, follow youtube videos of the different customisation and stuff...the sounds still sound so teeny. I think total spend like $300 also in terms of the sound...lose by miles to the hi75 in which I only spend like $40 plus per board barebone.

Enjoying a keyboard doesn't really have to spend lotsa dollars, I guess that's the past, this days many budget boards come custom build with all the sound dampening layers and stuff, doesn't make sense to pay hundreds more just for better screws and especially for my usage, it's just for typing and gaming.

I have watch other custom keyboards being reviewed online that cost way more but still sounds bad. But that's my own opinion ba..

Anyway it's only $40+. If it's spoil or like you mention, screws degrade or etc, really doesn't matter. Throw buy new one also not heart pain.

It's the same like the car community. Some like to zhng until spend thousand of dollars just to feel happy about it end up in sg, also use for point a to point B..can't even race in sg haha..

So anyway point is, not all people who buy a keyboard wants to customize them. In fact, the keyboard customization or enthusiast community is only a minority comparing to majority of people who are buying keyboards to just use them out of the box. So in terms of value, the hi75 is a big win. Cheap, value for money and sounds very good out of the box with no rattling stabilizers.

 

[ragnarok95]

If you want a thocky keyboard, keychron is not for you, even if you tape/foam mod the keychron. I have the keychron Q2 and a Sugar65 keyboard and the Sugar65 is thocky out of the box than the Q2. But in term of build quality, the Keychron is still better than the Sugar65 i bought off taobao.

 

[Phen8210]

I do use for a few months already. I bought 3 because using different keycaps and switches, but mainly stick to using one of it cuz loving the typing feel of that particular switch and keycaps, other 2 for show on a keyboard rack.

Purpose of buying hi75 is because it already sound nice out of the box by putting in preferred switches and keycaps. I didn't bother to open up or check the screws as it's already acoustically sounding to my liking. I think most ppl who buy hi75 will agree, no need to tinker anything except for using your own preferred keycap and switches.

So durability wise..I can't really fully say it's durable but as a daily driver for months, everything worked fine and is still are. I bought a keyboard for convenience and it's sound, not to open up and tinker it, that's for the enthusiast community I guess.

Last time I tried tinker the keychron q3 aluminium board, follow youtube videos of the different customisation and stuff...the sounds still sound so teeny. I think total spend like $300 also in terms of the sound...lose by miles to the hi75 in which I only spend like $40 plus per board barebone.

Enjoying a keyboard doesn't really have to spend lotsa dollars, I guess that's the past, this days many budget boards come custom build with all the sound dampening layers and stuff, doesn't make sense to pay hundreds more just for better screws and especially for my usage, it's just for typing and gaming.

I have watch other custom keyboards being reviewed online that cost way more but still sounds bad. But that's my own opinion ba..

Anyway it's only $40+. If it's spoil or like you mention, screws degrade or etc, really doesn't matter. Throw buy new one also not heart pain.

It's the same like the car community. Some like to zhng until spend thousand of dollars just to feel happy about it end up in sg, also use for point a to point B..can't even race in sg haha..

So anyway point is, not all people who buy a keyboard wants to customize them. In fact, the keyboard customization or enthusiast community is only a minority comparing to majority of people who are buying keyboards to just use them out of the box. So in terms of value, the hi75 is a big win. Cheap, value for money and sounds very good out of the box with no rattling stabilizers.

This stuff you speak of is no longer a concern today. The market is flooded with a lot of such keyboards.

Many keyboards already have no-rattling stabilizers, gasket mounts, multi layer foam, padding, or whatever pp/fr4 plate is inside. Few people are concerned about such things anymore because it's pretty much a given. All the cheap enthusiast keyboards for under $50 already come with these things.

Last time, it was expensive, not because it was good, but because there was little competition. All these things never cost much to produce. During COVID-19, many people started to pick up these things. Then businesses saw the money-making opportunity and started joining the trend and selling their kind of keyboards. These indie brands customize an order from a factory in China and sell the keyboard with a little twist of their own.

You can look at these brands. Wobkey, Womier, Shortcut Studio, Ajazz, Monsgeek, Monka, and Aula. So many brands sell the same type of keyboards with those kinds of 'enthusiast' features.

For sound, as long as it doesn't sound rattly and scratchy, the rest is honestly subjective territory. Anything from here on is just a personal preference.

This "sounds good, feels good" your type of enthusiast keyboard costs just $37 and includes a complete set of keycaps and switches.

Today, consumers paying over a hundred dollars expect more than just basic features. The aspects you consider 'value' are already standard at a $37 keyboard. However, factors like superior technology, manufacturing quality, precision, and similar advancements will push the price up, and people will pay hundreds of premiums for them.

The keyboard market is moving at a very rapid pace that you dont understand at all. Even Keychron has made severe advancements in technology because they know it matters, and they can't forever push this 'enthusiast' keyboard stuff because those simple things people can buy for $37 if they want nothing else. It has to come with more than that.

This is for Keychron Q1 HE, which has to be stable and has low latency for wireless. For the Hall Effect aspect, key release timings indicate how well it's implemented, so Keychron did it well. Cheap China keyboards are also trying to make advancements on other aspects, but they more or less just cannot achieve the same level of quality in what a lot of mainstream companies can do in other aspects.

 

[hyperfuse]

This stuff you speak of is no longer a concern today. The market is flooded with a lot of such keyboards.

Many keyboards already have no-rattling stabilizers, gasket mounts, multi layer foam, padding, or whatever pp/fr4 plate is inside. Few people are concerned about such things anymore because it's pretty much a given. All the cheap enthusiast keyboards for under $50 already come with these things.

Last time, it was expensive, not because it was good, but because there was little competition. All these things never cost much to produce. During COVID-19, many people started to pick up these things. Then businesses saw the money-making opportunity and started joining the trend and selling their kind of keyboards. These indie brands customize an order from a factory in China and sell the keyboard with a little twist of their own.

You can look at these brands. Wobkey, Womier, Shortcut Studio, Ajazz, Monsgeek, Monka, and Aula. So many brands sell the same type of keyboards with those kinds of 'enthusiast' features.

For sound, as long as it doesn't sound rattly and scratchy, the rest is honestly subjective territory. Anything from here on is just a personal preference.

This "sounds good, feels good" your type of enthusiast keyboard costs just $37 and includes a complete set of keycaps and switches.

Today, consumers paying over a hundred dollars expect more than just basic features. The aspects you consider 'value' are already standard at a $37 keyboard. However, factors like superior technology, manufacturing quality, precision, and similar advancements will push the price up, and people will pay hundreds of premiums for them.

The keyboard market is moving at a very rapid pace that you dont understand at all. Even Keychron has made severe advancements in technology because they know it matters, and they can't forever push this 'enthusiast' keyboard stuff because those simple things people can buy for $37 if they want nothing else. It has to come with more than that.

This is for Keychron Q1 HE, which has to be stable and has low latency for wireless. For the Hall Effect aspect, key release timings indicate how well it's implemented, so Keychron did it well. Cheap China keyboards are also trying to make advancements on other aspects, but they more or less just cannot achieve the same level of quality in what a lot of mainstream companies can do in other aspects.

Yup I know where u coming from, which is right as well.

All these hall effect switches to improve gaming, etc etc. Snap tap features so on and so forth..(right now it's gotten ban for competitive games anyway)

But alot of these features that these keyboard manufacturers trying to sell and improve really does not much in actual real world usage/performance. In regards to gaming, you get a decent pro player to use a cheap keyboard like a aula f75 or even a hi75 vs a casual gamer who uses a wooting keyboard with whatever hall effect, low latency switches.. it won't matter. The latency improvement won't affect who's gonna win the game between a casual gamer vs a decent competitive gamer. The hall effect switches which have faster actuation points vs a competitive gamer who use any logitech or cheap prebuilt will still win miles ahead than the casual gamer.

The improvements is really miniscule in terms of real world usage but marketing and specifications will of course market and advertise the benefits, exaggerating it. No doubt in terms of specs it's better, but it won't have make someone better at a game. Saying all this in terms of gaming.

Of course keyboards are not only for games but for the usual typing and productivity work. Will a $1000 board with high end features makes one earn more, win more, perform miles ahead than someone using a cheap keyboard?

To be honest, office keyboards where companies buy, those cheap rattling logitech ones...can last years. 5 to 8 years also no problem. So the reasoning of durability are most often than not, just another reason that the enthusiast community want to justify their hobbies and the expensive price it comes with.

Definitely when u pay more, the materials use will also be more premium. No doubt about it. But durability wise, plastic vs good quality aluminium, for a keyboard don't matter as keyboards are meant to be type on, not to be smashed haha..

Like expensive oled monitors, why manufacturers don't use metal or aluminium? Because it just don't make sense. Not about durability, because it's the weight. That doesn't mean the monitor fitted with plastic frame means it's less durable. Just an example.

Sometimes it's just about justification.

And do note, alot of times, prices inflate due to branding, not because of the materials being used.

Another example will be like oem brands. The product itself cost very cheap but known brands use these oem brand, rebrand them and now sell 3 to 5 times of the cost for profit, and it's the exact same item, and they market it as premium materials etc etc but end of the day, it's just about marketing and profits, not because the item is really a premium item. And we consumers fall for marketing so often, that's why companies get rich. Just need to find a good marketing team hehe..

Anyway end of the day, there are enthusiasts and non enthusiasts, each will have their use case scenarios and reasons that will validate their purchases. No right or wrong. The thing is, majority falls into the non enthusiast camp especially for keyboards.

Talking about worldwide keyboard usage be it in the gaming community and in the corporate working world.i am sure the numbers of people using keyboards don't bother about what keycaps or switches to use, whether the keyboard need to be precision cut and make of metals, whether it sounds thocky, creamy, marbly etc etc. In a corporate context, if these type of features were mentioned, people will actually laugh that one will care about how a keyboard sounds or whether it's cut with precision etc It's just a feature that is totally not important haha..

 

[hyperfuse]

Just my own opinion. No need to agree.



Just find this very nice sounding. It's prebuilt.

 

[ragnarok95]

Sound is subjective. Just listen to the one you like. Anyway, most KB from taobao sound thocky now.

 

[Phen8210]

Yup I know where u coming from, which is right as well.

All these hall effect switches to improve gaming, etc etc. Snap tap features so on and so forth..(right now it's gotten ban for competitive games anyway)

But alot of these features that these keyboard manufacturers trying to sell and improve really does not much in actual real world usage/performance. In regards to gaming, you get a decent pro player to use a cheap keyboard like a aula f75 or even a hi75 vs a casual gamer who uses a wooting keyboard with whatever hall effect, low latency switches.. it won't matter. The latency improvement won't affect who's gonna win the game between a casual gamer vs a decent competitive gamer. The hall effect switches which have faster actuation points vs a competitive gamer who use any logitech or cheap prebuilt will still win miles ahead than the casual gamer.

The improvements is really miniscule in terms of real world usage but marketing and specifications will of course market and advertise the benefits, exaggerating it. No doubt in terms of specs it's better, but it won't have make someone better at a game. Saying all this in terms of gaming.

Of course keyboards are not only for games but for the usual typing and productivity work. Will a $1000 board with high end features makes one earn more, win more, perform miles ahead than someone using a cheap keyboard?

To be honest, office keyboards where companies buy, those cheap rattling logitech ones...can last years. 5 to 8 years also no problem. So the reasoning of durability are most often than not, just another reason that the enthusiast community want to justify their hobbies and the expensive price it comes with.

Definitely when u pay more, the materials use will also be more premium. No doubt about it. But durability wise, plastic vs good quality aluminium, for a keyboard don't matter as keyboards are meant to be type on, not to be smashed haha..

Like expensive oled monitors, why manufacturers don't use metal or aluminium? Because it just don't make sense. Not about durability, because it's the weight. That doesn't mean the monitor fitted with plastic frame means it's less durable. Just an example.

Sometimes it's just about justification.

And do note, alot of times, prices inflate due to branding, not because of the materials being used.

Another example will be like oem brands. The product itself cost very cheap but known brands use these oem brand, rebrand them and now sell 3 to 5 times of the cost for profit, and it's the exact same item, and they market it as premium materials etc etc but end of the day, it's just about marketing and profits, not because the item is really a premium item. And we consumers fall for marketing so often, that's why companies get rich. Just need to find a good marketing team hehe..

I agree. It depends on the kind of advancement. Some are more meaningful than others and more meaningful to different individuals.

My keyboard, with just a 4000mAh battery, can last up to 3 months without charging with daily use of ~8 hours (no RGB) and +3 hours (low RGB). This is with stable 2ms wireless latency and seamless switching between modes. One of the most significant drawbacks of using a standing desk was having the cables route through from the front to the end of my desk and the bottom of my case.

In the past, going wireless often meant dealing with latency, interference, and frequent recharging, but that is no longer the case because of technological advancement. In fact, its wireless measurements in the area of concern are better than those of most wired keyboards. Also, it didn't need to be as high as other keyboards to have optimal sound, which is a huge win, especially for those like me who sit on PCs for long periods and don’t like to use wrist rests.

Lastly, Hall Effect keyboards offer more than just Snap Tap and Rapid Trigger. The customizable release point can be set to any value after lift-off. For instance, I can configure it to deregister a key after lifting it by around 0.3mm, which noticeably improves responsiveness and experience. Most important thing about HE is that its not mechanical, so its not prone to key chattering.

The marketing of these indie companies is also aggressive. They send out the KB to so many YouTubers who are " kb enthusiasts," and they go, wow, this keyboard sounds so good all that, well, and never even talk about the problems with the product even though it is in front of their eyes. Then, the companies will sell the KB at the English site for 2x the price of Taobao,

 

[origamii]

any recommend keyboard from taobao?

 

[ragnarok95]

I agree. It depends on the kind of advancement. Some are more meaningful than others and more meaningful to different individuals.

My keyboard, with just a 4000mAh battery, can last up to 3 months without charging with daily use of ~8 hours (no RGB) and +3 hours (low RGB). This is with stable 2ms wireless latency and seamless switching between modes. One of the most significant drawbacks of using a standing desk was having the cables route through from the front to the end of my desk and the bottom of my case.

In the past, going wireless often meant dealing with latency, interference, and frequent recharging, but that is no longer the case because of technological advancement. In fact, its wireless measurements in the area of concern are better than those of most wired keyboards. Also, it didn't need to be as high as other keyboards to have optimal sound, which is a huge win, especially for those like me who sit on PCs for long periods and don’t like to use wrist rests.

Lastly, Hall Effect keyboards offer more than just Snap Tap and Rapid Trigger. The customizable release point can be set to any value after lift-off. For instance, I can configure it to deregister a key after lifting it by around 0.3mm, which noticeably improves responsiveness and experience. Most important thing about HE is that its not mechanical, so its not prone to key chattering.

The marketing of these indie companies is also aggressive. They send out the KB to so many YouTubers who are " kb enthusiasts," and they go, wow, this keyboard sounds so good all that, well, and never even talk about the problems with the product even though it is in front of their eyes. Then, the companies will sell the KB at the English site for 2x the price of Taobao,

https://www.amazon.sg/ASUS-ROG-AZOT...h&qid=1725711419&sprefix=asus+,aps,506&sr=8-5

Your is this right??

 

[Phen8210]

https://www.amazon.sg/ASUS-ROG-AZOTH-WIRELESS-KEYBOARD/dp/B0CYFYVBX8/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1K3TZL7DF7EC7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7v4DuC0hFmHv4qKkuz1C6GK6U5RgOhDMzFb32bOVemdL6NxghWde1zE324SglU3vkBlEKGEZ6gvFC3TWHLjI37rGsW9JhNnzYElqMZ44ZTz7Nlz1z8S1AeaI_pZKZB7LHn2t1wYoxQS9XMVpO-vJj0fc07Ttb56ViNiw1KKUdbiwWbNeemtlE3O5g7sxibRCoIDejc4VYtEbU5a6BtUoYyPrx5cWkwFRQsi0n8BxOmIcfeKZxUhrXYpqSGpqcuYyA3uTTUIDSvcYzyrGkdgvjVeAAmwtl0zKaEBancBVm2M.DvWJtURTReQlOVgk16MCBzIlX5HfhkWGG-_lMllM9TM&dib_tag=se&keywords=asus+rog+azoth&qid=1725711419&sprefix=asus+,aps,506&sr=8-5

Your is this right??

Yeah, but I won't recommend buying it because it costs $267 atm, whereas I purchased it for $200.

Also, wait for them to release the Hall Effect version. They might already be working on it. Last month, they released a Hall Effect magnetic keyboard called the ROG Flachion Ace HFX.

If they can make these nice gasket-mount keyboards with Hall Effect, I would consider buying them if they're well-implemented. I am also considering Wooting 80HE for my HE keyboard, but the price can kill, especially if you pick the zinc alloy one. HE keyboard really need to do research to see if the implementation is bogus or not.

 

[alexion2k]

any recommend keyboard from taobao?

if no preference of keyboard size or switches, the AULA F75 the guys mentioned is a great recommendation.

 

[alexion2k]

This one just came in today. Currently i'm out trying different board, switches and keycaps profile.

Kit: AL75V2 75% aluminium keyboard
Switch: MMD Princess 38g Linear switches
Keypcaps: ASA profile keycaps.

Keyboard Kit
I say not bad for an alu keyboard Kit. However, will not recommend anyone to this board. Reason being it just a basic alu board, no new initiative to the design and it is pricer than the usual recommendations. Will rather recommend Leobog Hi75 or Rainy75 for first timer.

Switches
I really like the Mahjong sound (damn shiok) coming out from the MMD princess switch but personally feel the 38g switches are too light for me. Made alot of typing error on MonkeyType but typing on light switches can be super fast if you are precise in typing and soft typing kinda guy (not me). Just ordered KTT風信子 53g switches to replace ( trying out the hype switches in taobao).

Keycaps
As for ASA profile keycaps are really high imo. My palm keep touching the bottom row keycaps of the keyboard and it did affect me my typing as the 36g switches are so sensitive and use almost no force to type. Hence a slight accidental touch from my rested palm triggered the ctrl or arrow keys at the bottom quite frequently. Went ahead to replace all the bottom row switches first with 63g holy panda switches i have left from my previous built and it really help. Guess it will take some time to get used to high keycaps.