Roboadvisor: Stashaway vs Syfe

[tesarise]

they each hve their own advantages &
SA has the least varieties/products

thanks for the clarification. I won't put too much weight on the product variety though. going by that metric OCBC Roboinvest would be the best robo

 

[dappermen]

thanks for the clarification. I won't put too much weight on the product variety though. going by that metric OCBC Roboinvest would be the best robo

but y ocbc

 

[tesarise]

but y ocbc

You see the number of "portfolios" they offer in their robo

 

[dappermen]

Less is More! & qty is nt qlty too

 

[tesarise]

Less is More! & qty is nt qlty too

Yes I agree. That's why I say don't read too much into SA having lesser variety

 

[dappermen]

they hve their own adv! - SA has the least type of pdts, btw

i didnt evn suggest any metrics to begin w. i was Only tryg to ans to R 's misunderstdgs tht "the existing Robos like SA, Endowus, being longer in the market, their products are in wider variety - and perhaps maybe performance"

& pls dont quote me in bits & pcs or breakg my words up

Dont evn need to tag/reply me too unless ....

 

[proton_cannon]

stashaway porfolios performance are much poorer for me vs syfe (both started in Jan, and in 100 syfe and max 36 risk SA) , and stashaway is more expensive=.

Not only that, my cash management account of Syfe now up nearly quite a bit compared to SA cash management too. (not really comparable as I started SA cash management much earlier than syfe and have DCA at different times - but SA returns are really terrible)

I am pulling out of SA soon.

 

[dappermen]

I am pulling out of SA soon.

me too: give me a 5!!!!!!!






same 4 my SA36% risk too!!!! i even hve SA Sg income!!!!!!!! which many o u dont - i gave it up aft 1yr++!!!! it has no income streams although there r divs streaming in but but...... ( i kept it for so long some when they felt a pf cant evn prove themselves in a few mths they gve up immed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
https://www.stashaway.sg/income-portfolio

stashaway porfolios performance are much poorer for me vs syfe (both started in Jan, and in 100 syfe and max 36 risk SA) , and stashaway is more expensive=.

Not only that, my cash management account of Syfe now up nearly quite a bit

for Cash mgt, basic endwus is the WOrst!! i m bein very fair! i dont bash biasedly!

 

[dappermen]

SA got the spare money to hire - new Group Deputy CIO, Stephanie Leung.
https://www.stashaway.sg/r/cio-insi...-Manual-Branded-20210521-CIONewsletterMay2021

 

[GameTheory]

me too: give me a 5!!!!!!!






same 4 my SA36% risk too!!!! i even hve SA Sg income!!!!!!!! which many o u dont - i gave it up aft 1yr++!!!! it has no income streams although there r divs streaming in but but...... ( i kept it for so long some when they felt a pf cant evn prove themselves in a few mths they gve up immed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
https://www.stashaway.sg/income-portfolio

for Cash mgt, basic endwus is the WOrst!! i m bein very fair! i dont bash biasedly!

really sad that the SA SG income has been stagnant for past few months, its fees are eating up the returns from the dividends

 

[paul02]

really sad that the SA SG income has been stagnant for past few months, its fees are eating up the returns from the dividends

Perhaps it is time to switch to crypto.

 

[dappermen]

really sad that the SA SG income has been stagnant for past few months, its fees are eating up the returns from the dividends

Oh u hve not sold it?!!!
I noticed that when reits hits its heights in jan
Sg income is a farkg disapptmt still, i forced my parent to sell them off All at that point!!!!!!!!!(i still keep my 36% risk but will sell soon as I am quite occupied recently)



SA blasted and spam our fb with endless praising of their huge aum and expansion into Hk but i dont see Performce at all!!!! Esp sg income not letting them to earn mthly fees anymore
Btw i kept it for more than a year; before i made the tough evaluatn to sell

i hve no respect for pp who bought and sell off invesmt in a few mths- gdness! Dont ever buy it if u r unsure!!!

 

[hkchew03]

stashaway porfolios performance are much poorer for me vs syfe (both started in Jan, and in 100 syfe and max 36 risk SA) , and stashaway is more expensive=.

Not only that, my cash management account of Syfe now up nearly quite a bit compared to SA cash management too. (not really comparable as I started SA cash management much earlier than syfe and have DCA at different times - but SA returns are really terrible)

I am pulling out of SA soon.

Sometimes depends when you started.. If you started SA before the Feb/march crash last year and Syfe after the crash, obviously Syfe will perform better even when duration is shorter.

 

[dappermen]

which is why we evaluate after 1 yr +++++

& it dpends on the holdings of tht pf!!!

 

[dappermen]

when u diy urself v Robo - ref 9:05 Syfe REIT+ vs REIT ETF vs DIY Investing

 

[proton_cannon]

when u diy urself v Robo - ref 9:05 Syfe REIT+ vs REIT ETF vs DIY Investing

good explanation. However once your portfolio goes above say 10k or so, it may be much more cost effective to DIY.

 

[dappermen]

But if the pf is reits-related; then it is totally not reaping the effects of dividends*
(not all pref to hve their divs re-invested)

i thk there most in who placed in robos more than 10k
Also we needed in all more than 15k to enjoy a lower rate by syfe (SA even much more!!!!)



*: for sg income pf of Sa u must invest at least a 10k or more (while a bulk of it is on reits, not whole pf) the divs returned are meagre just with a 10k+ sgd! U needed to invest much more….

 

[Davo23]

Experts that are in Syfe Reits+ long enough, do you guys think it can really help to generate passive income of abt 5-8% annually?

or is better to pick our own reits (diy)?

 

[dappermen]

Experts that are in Syfe Reits+ long enough, do you guys think it can really help to generate passive income of abt 5-8% annually?

or is better to pick our own reits (diy)?

of cos , @ least a 4-5% annually (if u click dont reinvest like me) but mkt pr of your stocks/Reits might drop

 

[Davo23]

may i know how long you in Syfe?
so your Reits portfolio is all in Syfe?
nothing is diy?