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This means you go by feeling. If someone hide behind the system and make you do the same test. You will not be able to find the different. Ferrite core suppress noise above Radio Frequency range.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_beadThis is why I say, many HiFi lover is testing of how deep your pocket is vs how good you feel.

like i said.............you can hear it for sure............it's just like some speakers have supertweeters that go to 40-50Khz................but they sound less airy or detailed than speakers without supertweeters (up to 22khz only)..............audio is weird - measurements and specs don't matter.............

when you use ferrite cores on speaker cables or interconnects.................you will find the sound is less open and treble rolled off............that's why a lot of manufacturers don't use them ...........

Nah, true hardcore audiophiles don't use PC to stream. They use expensive streamers like those by Aurender and Lumin.

Don't have audiophile PSU, but plenty of audiophile linear power supply and main conditioner. Got one local brand Plixir makes and sells locally.

Me, I am contented streaming with Tidal and Roon on my PC. I see no need to invest in things like streamers, main conditioner, or those fancy silver speaker cables or super thick power cables. If upgrade, priority will be speakers or subwoofer first.

i have an audiophile powerline filter that i no longer use.................wonder if it'll make a difference for pc...........??

can point to some of these sexperts? youtube channel?

it was some online forum dedicated on pc audio...............i find it weird why they don't use a dedicated audiophile streamer and all that...............their pc only used for music................then they have some software to minimize usage of the RAM and SSD for better sound.............
 

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I won't forget and they are overpriced.
I did saw these in store but no one brought which is hilarious. :s13:
The ironic thing is Sony’s hifi stuff were really really good. I am using Sony’s last integrated amplifier TA-A1ES and I think no other amplifier below 10K comes close to it. Too bad Sony got out of hifi and only do head-fi now.
 

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like i said.............you can hear it for sure............it's just like some speakers have supertweeters that go to 40-50Khz................but they sound less airy or detailed than speakers without supertweeters (up to 22khz only)..............audio is weird - measurements and specs don't matter.............

when you use ferrite cores on speaker cables or interconnects.................you will find the sound is less open and treble rolled off............that's why a lot of manufacturers don't use them ...........



i have an audiophile powerline filter that i no longer use.................wonder if it'll make a difference for pc...........??



it was some online forum dedicated on pc audio...............i find it weird why they don't use a dedicated audiophile streamer and all that...............their pc only used for music................then they have some software to minimize usage of the RAM and SSD for better sound.............
Yes, better measuring or more expensive do not necessarily mean better. Gear matching and room treatment more important.

Audiophile is expensive hobby and the rate of diminishing return is even worse than GPU. If I want to see tangible improvement from my current gear I have to spend 5 digits at least on each component.
 
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Yes, better measuring or more expensive do not necessarily mean better. Gear matching and room treatment more important.

Audiophile is expensive hobby and the rate of diminishing return is even worse than GPU. If I want to see tangible improvement from my current gear I have to spend 5 digits at least on each component.

change to audiophile fuses.................not so expensive but can make big improvements............
 

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change to audiophile fuses.................not so expensive but can make big improvements............

@napoleon bohlumpar

congratulation on your purchase upgrade of audiophile fuse. I wonder how much did you pay for and what sort of improvement did it make to your computer ? BTW there are also hospital grade fuse​

if you're interested > https://www.interpower.com/cgi-bin/ic.cgi/p14form.p?w_part=81412641&w_group=IN
I used to play around with fuses during the early days.:)
 
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@napoleon bohlumpar

congratulation on your purchase upgrade of audiophile fuse. I wonder how much did you pay for and what sort of improvement did it make to your computer ? BTW there are also hospital grade fuse​

if you're interested > https://www.interpower.com/cgi-bin/ic.cgi/p14form.p?w_part=81412641&w_group=IN
I used to play around with fuses during the early days.:)


no lah.............fuses not for pc lah.................for amplifier lah...............

anyway, pc got no fuse right ?
 

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Did you open up the amplifier and replace the fuse inside or the fuse at plug ?
Is your amplifier linked to computer ? If linked to computer, it's better to upgrade that as well.
A advise for you is to plug everything directly to wall and avoid multi trail sockets, if wall not enough socket, get one of this
3 way adapter > https://www.amazon.sg/POWERPAC-PP14...ocphy=9062515&hvtargid=pla-827291404490&psc=1 that does not have fuse else all your time,money and effort is wasted.
 

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jesus what is this thread on about 😅
You are witnessing the transformation of a PC DIY enthusiast into its next evolutionary form: hi-end audiophile.

You know you are turning into one when you start to check out City Electronics and Sam Audio first when you visit Sim Lim instead of PC Themes or Fuwell.

And soon you start hanging out in Adelphi and salivating over the shiny speakers, amplifiers, and DACs on display.
 

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You are witnessing the transformation of a PC DIY enthusiast into its next evolutionary form: hi-end audiophile.

You know you are turning into one when you start to check out City Electronics and Sam Audio first when you visit Sim Lim instead of PC Themes or Fuwell.

And soon you start hanging out in Adelphi and salivating over the shiny speakers, amplifiers, and DACs on display.

"audiophile science" you mean
 

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"audiophile science" you mean

Audiophile is someone who is into hifi.

Seems natural that when grow older less time to play games so no incentive to build DIY PC, so change into hifi lor. A couple of local audiophiles I know in their 40s also started with DIY PC first before switching hobby to hifi.

Unlike DIY PC, there are a lot more snake oils in hifi coz lack of benchmark. Does that 2k silver speaker cable actually improve the sound? Or is it just confirmation bias? And also the price of the components, man. I see a lot of people here think 3080 so ex, then in hifi a 10k DAC is considered affordable lol.
 

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Audiophile is someone who is into hifi.

Seems natural that when grow older less time to play games so no incentive to build DIY PC, so change into hifi lor. A couple of local audiophiles I know in their 40s also started with DIY PC first before switching hobby to hifi.

Unlike DIY PC, there are a lot more snake oils in hifi coz lack of benchmark. Does that 2k silver speaker cable actually improve the sound? Or is it just confirmation bias? And also the price of the components, man. I see a lot of people here think 3080 so ex, then in hifi a 10k DAC is considered affordable lol.
The trend nowadays is that peoples are trying to combine computer with hifi equipments. For some peoples listerning to hifi feel good like taking drugs and it's addictive. Just buy what you can afford with good judgement, not everything are snake oil. Take a look at how performance of hifi equipments are tested > https://neurochrome.com/pages/selecting-audio-test-equipment
 

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The trend nowadays is that peoples are trying to combine computer with hifi equipments. For some peoples listerning to hifi feel good like taking drugs and it's addictive. Just buy what you can afford with good judgement, not everything are snake oil. Take a look at how performance of hifi equipments are tested > https://neurochrome.com/pages/selecting-audio-test-equipment
Yes, hifi can be equally as addictive as gaming with the latest GPU.

There is a forum Audio Science Review that tries to test and measure hifi equipments and a lot members there practice reverse snobbery i.e thumbing their noses at people who spent a lot of money on hifi equipments without considering their measurements. Not surprisingly, the Chinese brands jump on this bandwagon and produce gears that measure very well, but in actual listening they might sound only okay.
 
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Yes, hifi can be equally as addictive as gaming with the latest GPU.

There is a forum Audio Science Review that tries to test and measure hifi equipments and a lot members there practice reverse snobbery i.e thumbing their noses at people who spent a lot of money on hifi equipments without considering their measurements. Not surprisingly, the Chinese brands jump on this bandwagon and produce gears that measure very well, but in actual listening they might sound only okay.


measurements and specs mean nothing in hifi.................speakers are the best examples............

you have manufacturers making great speakers with super stiff or flexible cabinets...................with super high-tech or low-tech materials for the drivers..........the only consistent thing is cross-over must be good

and then i've heard expensive amp using high quality parts but the sound was terrible............
 

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maybe this title can become Cable quality does affect....(add whatever u thinks). :unsure:
 

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like i said.............you can hear it for sure............it's just like some speakers have supertweeters that go to 40-50Khz................but they sound less airy or detailed than speakers without supertweeters (up to 22khz only)..............audio is weird - measurements and specs don't matter.............

when you use ferrite cores on speaker cables or interconnects.................you will find the sound is less open and treble rolled off............that's why a lot of manufacturers don't use them ...........



i have an audiophile powerline filter that i no longer use.................wonder if it'll make a difference for pc...........??



it was some online forum dedicated on pc audio...............i find it weird why they don't use a dedicated audiophile streamer and all that...............their pc only used for music................then they have some software to minimize usage of the RAM and SSD for better sound.............
Suggest if you can, get the ear test and check how high the frequency your ear can response. Major clinics or hospital has these equipments.
 

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Yes, hifi can be equally as addictive as gaming with the latest GPU.

There is a forum Audio Science Review that tries to test and measure hifi equipments and a lot members there practice reverse snobbery i.e thumbing their noses at people who spent a lot of money on hifi equipments without considering their measurements. Not surprisingly, the Chinese brands jump on this bandwagon and produce gears that measure very well, but in actual listening they might sound only okay.
This is a area of feeling vs how much to spend. Some only feel good if certain amount of money is spent.

Ever went to those high end audio shop with friend when he commented the sound is very good. I asked if he understand what the singer is singing, he does not know! All he look for is price, how thick is the cable, gold plated, heavy metal etc.
 
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