Serious | HR/Recruitment Agency say I am overpaid for a Diploma Holder. Ask for payslip to verify.

[_eMuu_]

Work experience more important.

A degree holder can cook bak chor mee better den a diploma holder?

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[Tatuho]

Sinkie must chk everything. FT cant chk last pay, cert real or not, experience real or not. everythg also correct.

 

[Entry Level PC]

Note: Stick to the thread.

Think some of you know me so please keep to yourself.
And some of you know in the past I was out of work for
quite a long period.

I be frank and share this with everyone, many years
back I was offered this job that pays $2.6k.
However the contract was to replace someone
who had a Degree and they need someone to continue the person
contract.

I was hired to continue that contract thus drawing that salary.
Why I mentioned this, was in the past when I go for job interview.
I had criticized by HR and recruitment agency that a Diploma
holder without much working experience shouldn't be drawing that high.

I was ask for payslip to verify my last drawn salary as some find it dubios
and was question by some HR/coy how was I able to ask for such salary.
Some even told me straight to my face that my caliber should be earning
around $1.8k to $2.1k only.

Past contract job I did due to this fact, the coy offered $2.3k as the last drawn salary is very dubious to them.
I dare not share the above fact if not it will raise even more questions.

Any HR experts, now you tell me this is case of lying or false declaration of last drawn salary.
What salary range I was offered was actually another person contract so I do not know how to explain when they criticized I was overpaid for a Diploma holder.

This is one reason why I couldn't secure a employment easily as well as quite anger as if I was going around lying.

HR = Human Rubbish.
Their KPI is based on how much they Low Blow you and undercut your Salary.

 

[occifer]

Note: Stick to the thread.

Think some of you know me so please keep to yourself.
And some of you know in the past I was out of work for
quite a long period.

I be frank and share this with everyone, many years
back I was offered this job that pays $2.6k.
However the contract was to replace someone
who had a Degree and they need someone to continue the person
contract.

I was hired to continue that contract thus drawing that salary.
Why I mentioned this, was in the past when I go for job interview.
I had criticized by HR and recruitment agency that a Diploma
holder without much working experience shouldn't be drawing that high.

I was ask for payslip to verify my last drawn salary as some find it dubios
and was question by some HR/coy how was I able to ask for such salary.
Some even told me straight to my face that my caliber should be earning
around $1.8k to $2.1k only.

Past contract job I did due to this fact, the coy offered $2.3k as the last drawn salary is very dubious to them.
I dare not share the above fact if not it will raise even more questions.

Any HR experts, now you tell me this is case of lying or false declaration of last drawn salary.
What salary range I was offered was actually another person contract so I do not know how to explain when they criticized I was overpaid for a Diploma holder.

This is one reason why I couldn't secure a employment easily as well as quite anger as if I was going around lying.

Is it a recruitment company?
They saying to lower your asking salary so they save money la....

2.6k for a diploma holder is nothing much la....

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[theMKR]

Work experience more important.

A degree holder can cook bak chor mee better den a diploma holder?

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Yes.

A real biz owner will know why and hire the degree holder

 

[wwenze]

HR village SOP:

- Offer pay so low anybody with actual skill and qualification won't sign up for it e.g. Master / PhD with 7 years experience, $7000

- Get someone from village and say he has the qualification and hire him

This country is sinking, just prepare for it.

 

[occifer]

HR = Human Rubbish.
Their KPI is based on how much they Low Blow you and undercut your Salary.

Well said.

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[nymous]

Even uptron can get 66k its clear the system racist..

 

[wwenze]

Work experience more important.

A degree holder can cook bak chor mee better den a diploma holder?

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Does the diploma holder have bcm experience?

If no then what?

 

[Mclairs83]

I higher nitec grad only...

since my previous 2 jobs, all never comment about my payslip or even ask me how much i'm worth.

maybe i too low pay?

 

[fishbuff]

I know how you feel, ts

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[kayaloti.club]

$2.6k ish high salary for diploma. 5 digit for ACL Uptron master diploma. gib thanks to SG55 years of PAP education planning.

 

[aarontansp]

My company ask for payslip so that they can pay me higher. Nothing wrong

 

[CSNation]

Just cook satki caipng

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[Prime 13]

HR are usually unqualified to judge candidates.

It's actually one of those low value jods where they disguise themselves as ultra important and position themselves as gatekeepers to the company.

Sometimes they do some BS rike come up with schemes to assess canditates or assess employees (e.g. change appraisal format here and there), but truly it's all bullsh!t.

The change in formats will have countless fields to enter and some dubious method to calculate metric, yet also somehow make until the person assessing the employee have so much leeway to rate the employee/candidate, that format is totally useless.

Coz the HR know they are putting up a show, and ish no dare make their wayang become reality coz they know that will screw things up.

Honestly, in today's drive for innovation, unless HR hab years of experience in tech, engineering, and are founders of startups, etc... they are unfit to judge anyone.

The most they should do ish rubber stamp whoever the bosses of the company approve.

 

[CanIsayNo]

a degree is useful in a sense that it may make the hirers of the company not look down on you. Many of them are degree holders at least, they may feel that diploma holders are beneath them and are thus only deserving of a sh1t salary You can't expect them to empathise with you.

 

[zmallwood]

Hi bro, what you are facing is salary benchmarking to the market average. It is one of the metric used when calculating your salary. In fact it is considered a good HR practice.

I'm a diploma holder too, but eventually took up undergraduate and even masters later on, because SG really place emphasis on this.

Note: Stick to the thread.

Think some of you know me so please keep to yourself.
And some of you know in the past I was out of work for
quite a long period.

I be frank and share this with everyone, many years
back I was offered this job that pays $2.6k.
However the contract was to replace someone
who had a Degree and they need someone to continue the person
contract.

I was hired to continue that contract thus drawing that salary.
Why I mentioned this, was in the past when I go for job interview.
I had criticized by HR and recruitment agency that a Diploma
holder without much working experience shouldn't be drawing that high.

I was ask for payslip to verify my last drawn salary as some find it dubios
and was question by some HR/coy how was I able to ask for such salary.
Some even told me straight to my face that my caliber should be earning
around $1.8k to $2.1k only.

Past contract job I did due to this fact, the coy offered $2.3k as the last drawn salary is very dubious to them.
I dare not share the above fact if not it will raise even more questions.

Any HR experts, now you tell me this is case of lying or false declaration of last drawn salary.
What salary range I was offered was actually another person contract so I do not know how to explain when they criticized I was overpaid for a Diploma holder.

This is one reason why I couldn't secure a employment easily as well as quite anger as if I was going around lying.

 

[VEF888]

regardless of whether the contract content was for a job meant degree holder, when you accepted the job and did the job well, means you are up to it. you should use this as an argument for yourself. point out specifically why the job paid more and similarities between previous job and current job you are applying now. Job scope bigger/more responsibilities etc. Just move on to another company which accepts your abilities as is loh. What's there to be angry about?

Anyway that's the common practice lah, for jobs which companies see as lower level and routine, they have stricter benchmark. As one move up, previous pay becomes less important.

Note: Stick to the thread.

Think some of you know me so please keep to yourself.
And some of you know in the past I was out of work for
quite a long period.

I be frank and share this with everyone, many years
back I was offered this job that pays $2.6k.
However the contract was to replace someone
who had a Degree and they need someone to continue the person
contract.

I was hired to continue that contract thus drawing that salary.
Why I mentioned this, was in the past when I go for job interview.
I had criticized by HR and recruitment agency that a Diploma
holder without much working experience shouldn't be drawing that high.

I was ask for payslip to verify my last drawn salary as some find it dubios
and was question by some HR/coy how was I able to ask for such salary.
Some even told me straight to my face that my caliber should be earning
around $1.8k to $2.1k only.

Past contract job I did due to this fact, the coy offered $2.3k as the last drawn salary is very dubious to them.
I dare not share the above fact if not it will raise even more questions.

Any HR experts, now you tell me this is case of lying or false declaration of last drawn salary.
What salary range I was offered was actually another person contract so I do not know how to explain when they criticized I was overpaid for a Diploma holder.

This is one reason why I couldn't secure a employment easily as well as quite anger as if I was going around lying.

 

[PrinceY]

Hey TS, it’s very common to ask for payslip, only ppl in MOM still think that employer all guai guai and won’t ask for it after they encourage them not to.. Not sure if I understand ur problem correctly.. so u were paid higher in the previous contract and so thus facing problem for ur subsequent jobs? What’s ur expected? And what’s the expected range for the job u applied for (within the range? Above or under the range?)?? Since they call u for interview or process further, I suppose u are a good fit at least..

Most of the time they just want to lowball u la.. if ur last drawn too low, u think how many will bother to compensate u fairly, similarly if ur last drawn too high how many will pay u ur previous pay.. whichever situation works to their advantage they say whatever one la..

which is why, they should look at the role and how much they are offering in the first place.. but how many can practise that..

One of my precious workplace, my starting salary was 30% lower than someone else.. simply that person had more experience and a higher last drawn (but for the role itself, I was doing more stuff and it’s a heavier role.) even after promotion, I was still lower than her.. and probably after another promotion (which means I’m two level above, probably going to only draw the same as her nia..) if it’s some 50-60 auntie I can accept.. it’s only a girl in similar age as me wor and she don’t have NS that’s why she got a head start

Company that ask for payslip .. pls ignore

Then u got to ignore a lot and I mean by more than half at least.. at least those I applied so far, mostly will ask for payslip.. or at the very least get u to list ur previous salary in the application form..

 

[wwenze]

HR are usually unqualified to judge candidates.

It's actually one of those low value jods where they disguise themselves as ultra important and position themselves as gatekeepers to the company.

Sometimes they do some BS rike come up with schemes to assess canditates or assess employees (e.g. change appraisal format here and there), but truly it's all bullsh!t.

The change in formats will have countless fields to enter and some dubious method to calculate metric, yet also somehow make until the person assessing the employee have so much leeway to rate the employee/candidate, that format is totally useless.

Coz the HR know they are putting up a show, and ish no dare make their wayang become reality coz they know that will screw things up.

Honestly, in today's drive for innovation, unless HR hab years of experience in tech, engineering, and are founders of startups, etc... they are unfit to judge anyone.

The most they should do ish rubber stamp whoever the bosses of the company approve.

The tech MNC i work in, the interviewers and hiring managers are engineers themselves...

Only Singapore companies use unqualified people to interview and be boss.

Coz these people are unqualified themselves. The company itself is unqualified. Most sinkie companies wouldn't exist if this country is truly global. But we practice selective globalization.