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sometimes this kinda stuff.. will keep u waiting.. G3 . then G4 .. my style is, if the replacement or new one not coming out next month or so, i will just get the current one and start enjoying it..

but ofcos u hv to need it in the 1st place.. if u buy for fun only, then surely can wait :)
 

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Sorry, maybe I have missed some line or misunderstood the 'review' for the G3 but seems like the performance is not better than current crop of sanforce ssd (up to 270mb/sec write speed) Good if some senior can help explain... thanks!

the strength of the intel ssds is not in the read or write speed.. it has one of the best random access speed... which still beats the sandforce currently from what i understand..



[The Intel drives are of course architected for the type of performance needed on a desktop/notebook and thus they deliver very high random write performance.

Random write performance is merely one corner of the performance world. A drive needs good sequential read, sequential write, random read and random write performance. The fatal mistake is that most vendors ignore random write performance and simply try to post the best sequential read/write speeds; doing so simply produces a drive that's undesirable.]

quoted from anandtech

Research the SSD's Performance

SSDs are all about performance. This performance is typically specified by how well the SSD can access its data randomly or sequentially. Because certain data is inherently sequential (photos, music, and movies) and other data types are inherently random (applications, system log files, and OS files), there are different specifications for accessing each type of data. The random data read and write access performance is typically specified in IOPS (input/output operations per second). You should look for an SSD that has high IOPS for random data access performance - this will ensure that you have fast application launch times, faster user file access, and faster systems boots. Such advantages greatly enhance the user experience and limit how often you'll see the dreaded "hourglass". So what's a "good" IOPS rating for random read performance? You should aim for a drive that can randomly read 4 Kbytes of data at a rate of up to 35,000 IOPS. Think about an SSD reading data in 4Kbyte chunks -- the same way a cargo ship carries a specified payload back and forth between destination ports. A good random write specification is in the range of 6,500 to 9,000 IOPS at a minimum.

The sequential data read and write access performance is typically specified in MB/s (megabytes per second), which is a fitting way to measure sequential streams of data (as opposed to a random stream). Sequential read and write performance typically has less of a noticeable effect on performance. Sequential data access is limited by bus interfaces, protocols, devices such as USB 2.0, MPEG video and audio, and DVD optical devices. Such interfaces are limited by throughput capabilities and protocol specifications, so exceeding the sequential platform requirement does not necessarily enhance the user experience. So what kind of sequential performance should you look for when buying an SSD? A good sequential read performance is 250 MB/s. A 70MB/s to 100MB/s sequential write performance is adequate for most uses.

from intel
 
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Sorry, maybe I have missed some line or misunderstood the 'review' for the G3 but seems like the performance is not better than current crop of sanforce ssd (up to 270mb/sec write speed) Good if some senior can help explain... thanks!

I don't transfer huge files everyday so those are just marketing numbers to me. What important is random/sequential read/writes. A stable drive that delivers consistent performance (no performance degrade kind of BS even with TRIM) is more important than anything else. I want a drive that performs well in real life situation, not just benchmark numbers which look good. I buy a SSD for my OS, not to benchmark.

This is where Intel outshines others and gets my $$.
 

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SSD on MAC OSX like macbook all this, which doesn't support TRIM, will the SSD become slower and slower? :(
 

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I don't transfer huge files everyday so those are just marketing numbers to me. What important is random/sequential read/writes. A stable drive that delivers consistent performance (no performance degrade kind of BS even with TRIM) is more important than anything else. I want a drive that performs well in real life situation, not just benchmark numbers which look good. I buy a SSD for my OS, not to benchmark.

This is where Intel outshines others and gets my $$.

Haha look at it this way, the Vertex 2 running in degraded performance still faster than the Intel ...
 

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crucial c300 64gbor gskill phoenix 120gb? :/

if you got sata 3, which one u choose?

I will choose the higher capacity. My 120Gb Vertex 2 is already half filled.... just with Win7, Adobe Design Premium, MS Office, and few other small apps and 3 games.

But why u compare 64Gb vs 120Gb? Shouldn't it be the Crucial 120Gb?
 

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I will choose the higher capacity. My 120Gb Vertex 2 is already half filled.... just with Win7, Adobe Design Premium, MS Office, and few other small apps and 3 games.

But why u compare 64Gb vs 120Gb? Shouldn't it be the Crucial 120Gb?[/QUOTE

thinking of value for money or speed ma...
 

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I will choose the higher capacity. My 120Gb Vertex 2 is already half filled.... just with Win7, Adobe Design Premium, MS Office, and few other small apps and 3 games.

But why u compare 64Gb vs 120Gb? Shouldn't it be the Crucial 120Gb?[/QUOTE

thinking of value for money or speed ma...

Yea I'll go with higher capacity too, i have 2 x 60GB already, 1 was not enough.
Plus the Sandforce 1200 is a very very decent controller, it's not like you're buying
into inferior components.

Plus Intel's SATA controller is very good and has its own driver with TRIM, with SATA 2 i will use that over the 6Gbps controller.
 

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thinking of value for money or speed ma...

Go Newegg and compare price. The Crucial 128Gb is not much more expensive than the Vertex 2 120Gb. US$30 more. :)
That will give u more headache to compare. :s13::s13::s13:

Vertex 2 120Gb: (US$240) - price per Gb=US$2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551

Crucial 128Gb: (US$270) - price per Gb=US$2.11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348

However, now value for money has got to be the Phoenix Pro 120Gb. Now less than S$300 at Linke Computer. Newegg also occasionally drops the price for this, so if buying from Newegg can check often.
http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1010368/FM-25S2S-120GBP2/G.SKILL/

Else for best value for money, wait for Onyx 2. =:p
 
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anyone using ssd with netbook or notebook like asus pro23 series...any increase in performane?
 

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anyone using ssd with netbook or notebook like asus pro23 series...any increase in performane?

I have a friend using a Netbook, system too weak to really see the potential of the SSD, or perhaps the built in SSD is just not of good quality
 

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I will choose the higher capacity. My 120Gb Vertex 2 is already half filled.... just with Win7, Adobe Design Premium, MS Office, and few other small apps and 3 games.

But why u compare 64Gb vs 120Gb? Shouldn't it be the Crucial 120Gb?[/QUOTE

thinking of value for money or speed ma...
the speed is already high enough to not make a difference. you should be looking at cost per gb now.
 
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