Syfe Core - Growth vs Balanced (Journal)

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Syfe Growth (30%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 4.49%

Syfe Balance (70%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 2.93%

Syfe Cash+
Start date: Feb 2021
RTD: +0.469 %

Equity 100
Start date: 14 Apr
RTD: +0.54%
 

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I must admit the equity is a bit of a disapptmt

they shdnt hve sell off and change their strategy recently
Blame you lah. Pressure me to open equity :p This week finally green... my equity only $3k+. Ill observe how it moves this following months..
 

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Blame you lah. Pressure me to open equity :p This week finally green... my equity only $3k+. Ill observe how it moves this following months..
3k sgd is alot to u, cos i rem u initially started the other pf with small sums right? Hope i rem correctly

anyway 3k when converted to usd will be lesser

The initial eqty was ok de! But then syfe made some changes by selling off some and getting new ones at the height of everything hence all the eqty became stagnant or slightly worse…. But of cos in the Long run or mid-term, the eqty wont disappt u

if you have faith in your Core, i did recommend u to combine/merge your Balance (70%)
Into…growth
 

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3k sgd is alot to u, cos i rem u initially started the other pf with small sums right? Hope i rem correctly

anyway 3k when converted to usd will be lesser

The initial eqty was ok de! But then syfe made some changes by selling off some and getting new ones at the height of everything hence all the eqty became stagnant or slightly worse…. But of cos in the Long run or mid-term, the eqty wont disappt u

if you have faith in your Core, i did recommend u to combine/merge your Balance (70%)
Into…growth
Btw, hows the Reits folio coming along? What returns % so far
 

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Btw, hows the Reits folio coming along? What returns % so far
The reits pf is 6.5% nia but i started at diff time 1dec 2020 so now is abt half yr

We opted for div payout quarterly!

but it will still sbj to the news of sg daily covid report
https://www.sgx.com/indices/products/sreitlsp
now all eyes on after fathers day, will sg govt tighten the phase2 or ….??
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/sing...zLQAKUc-BVNtCKVqU-Gfv_XJyCzqCtcXCG9fsueJOATho
I started parents on another new set of syfe eqty100 too on 21apr which is really not far from your date of inv too
The return is abt 1.08%…
Equity 100
Start date: 14 Apr
RTD: +0.54%
 

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eqty her top choice (me tooooo!!!u cant go wrong w this esp b4 their recent changes) Next is reits!

although Syfe growth is the 3rd she shortlisted - Sorry to say but hardly see a woman into Investmts, she has brains!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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eqty her top choice (me tooooo!!!u cant go wrong w this esp b4 their recent changes) Next is reits!

although Syfe growth is the 3rd she shortlisted - Sorry to say but hardly see a woman into Investmts, she has brains!!!!!!!!!!!

Didnt know Malaysians could open Syfe account...
 

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Syfe Growth (30%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 4.96%

Syfe Balance (70%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: +3.58 %

Syfe Cash+
Start date: Feb 2021
RTD: +0.565 %

Equity 100
Start date: 14 Apr
RTD: +0.80%

Portfolio all-time HIGH :devilish:
 

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I wish to top up my Syfe Core portfolio. Is it recommended to top up 1 lump sum or perform DCA?

Personally I think for less volatile portfolio like Core Defensive, one lump sum is fine. For portfolio with bigger weightage on equities, then perhaps can split into a few deposits.
 

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Syfe Growth (30%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 4.67%

Syfe Balance (70%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: +3.80 %

Syfe Cash+
Start date: Feb 2021
RTD: +0.598 %

Equity 100
Start date: 14 Apr
RTD: +0.03%

Love how Cash+ is moving
 

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Syfe Growth (30%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 4.67%

Syfe Balance (70%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: +3.80 %
u dont like how your Core is movg?

eqty is hvg alot o Flux lately

my Syfe Cash+ ; 0.842% bought in End Jan i hope Edwus Ultra can beat it after a yr
 

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u dont like how your Core is movg?

eqty is hvg alot o Flux lately

my Syfe Cash+ ; 0.842% bought in End Jan i hope Edwus Ultra can beat it after a yr
This week was FOMC. Expected for equity.. Cash+ shot up past few weeks. Market rewards the patient and confident :)
 

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Syfe Growth (30%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 4.67%

Syfe Balance (70%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: +3.80 %

Syfe Cash+
Start date: Feb 2021
RTD: +0.598 %

Equity 100
Start date: 14 Apr
RTD: +0.03%

Love how Cash+ is moving

Thanks for sharing. Might be a good destination for me to shift my funds once the SingLife's reduced rate starts next month.
 

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Syfe Growth (30%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: + 6.50%

Syfe Balance (70%)
Start date: Mid March 2021
RTD: +4.43 %

Syfe Cash+
Start date: Feb 2021
RTD: +0.618 %

Equity 100
Start date: 14 Apr
RTD: +2.95%

All time high :devilish:

Note: Converted all % frome time weighted return to cumulative return %. Not sure what TWR means
 
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Not sure what TWR means

Why TWR? - very difficult to understd though this time-wt ret. esp if u Dca & wdraw some in betwn​

It can be so difficult to determine how much money was earned on a portfolio when there are multiple deposits and withdrawals made over time. Investors can't simply subtract the beginning balance, after the initial deposit, from the ending balance since the ending balance reflects both the rate of return on the investments and any deposits or withdrawals during the time invested in the fund. In other words, deposits and withdrawals distort the value of the return on the portfolio.
The TWR provides the rate of return for each sub-period or interval that had cash flow changes.

Examples of Using the TWR​

As noted, the time-weighted return eliminates the effects of portfolio cash flows on returns. To see this how it works, consider the following two investor scenarios:


Scenario 1 taken fr ivestopedia site​

Investor 1 invests $1 million into Mutual Fund A on December 31. On August 15 of the following year, his portfolio is valued at $1,162,484. At that point (August 15), he adds $100,000 to Mutual Fund A, bringing the total value to $1,262,484.


By the end of the year, the portfolio has decreased in value to $1,192,328. The holding-period return for the first period, from December 31 to August 15, would be calculated as:


  • Return = ($1,162,484 - $1,000,000) / $1,000,000 = 16.25% but .....

The holding-period return for the second period, from August 15 to December 31, would be calculated as:


  • Return = ($1,192,328 - ($1,162,484 + $100,000)) / ($1,162,484 + $100,000) = -5.56%
The second sub-period is created following the $100,000 deposit so that the rate of return is calculated reflecting that deposit with its new starting balance of $1,262,484 or ($1,162,484 + $100,000).


The time-weighted return for the two time periods is calculated by multiplying each subperiod's rate of return by each other. The first period is the period leading up to the deposit, and the second period is after the $100,000 deposit.

  • Time-weighted return = (1 + 16.25%) x (1 + (-5.56%)) - 1 = 9.79%

Difference Between TWR and ROR($-wt ret)​

A rate of return (ROR) is the net gain or loss on an investment over a specified time period, expressed as a percentage of the investment’s initial cost. Gains on investments are defined as income received plus any capital gains realized on the sale of the investment.

However, the rate of return calculation does not account for the cash flow differences in the portfolio, whereas the TWR accounts for all deposits and withdrawals in determining the rate of return.
 
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