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Crimsom

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This week the REIT all crashing down? What happened ah?

My portfolio from +4% last month crash to negative 3 percent today.
 

xuanweng

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This week the REIT all crashing down? What happened ah?

My portfolio from +4% last month crash to negative 3 percent today.

Overall market sentiments is down.. due to rising number of covid cases & poor earnings
 

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Syfe Reit bloodbath le this week. Down 3-4%. Their top 2 REITs: decision to buy Ascenda Reit and Capital Mall trust was bad...All drop like grapes
 

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Syfe Reit bloodbath le this week. Down 3-4%. Their top 2 REITs: decision to buy Ascenda Reit and Capital Mall trust was bad...All drop like grapes

This week there is bloodbath everywhere in the stock market. Try and check other asset classes. Majority were down.
 

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The underlying product are reits... People should understand the risk and volatility associated with reits especially with the march 20 crash but somehow they don't... I am confused.
 

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Mine too in the reds since mid Oct when I started this portfolio.. :(

But I guess for long term investment, 10 to 20 years? The portfolio will go up? *crosses fingers*
 

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Mine too in the reds since mid Oct when I started this portfolio.. :(

But I guess for long term investment, 10 to 20 years? The portfolio will go up? *crosses fingers*

Those who holding 100 % reits gg ... must be down >5%... Heng i took the ari one. I looking to transfer to global ari already. spore market bearish
 

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The underlying product are reits... People should understand the risk and volatility associated with reits especially with the march 20 crash but somehow they don't... I am confused.

It can't be explained. One needs to experience the risk and volatility first hand to understand their own risk appetite and behaviour.

Full reits portfolio is too risky for most people. But at least they are getting the better quality reits among the pool through this product. Those who go all in into wrong reit or individual stock suffers the most.
 

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It can't be explained. One needs to experience the risk and volatility first hand to understand their own risk appetite and behaviour.

Full reits portfolio is too risky for most people. But at least they are getting the better quality reits among the pool through this product. Those who go all in into wrong reit or individual stock suffers the most.

In this case, is it advisable to switch to the ARI one?
 

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In this case, is it advisable to switch to the ARI one?

The Managed REIT one is definitely relatively safer, but the trade-off is that you're also probably gonna get lower returns in good times, compared to the pure REITs.

Ultimately, if you're that worried about short term fluctuations, I'd suggest you avoid REITs altogether..

I have a comparison thread for Managed REITs vs 100% REITs, but it's still relatively new. Only like 3 weeks old. So far, the Managed REITs are winning, but that's to be expected, since we're in the downswing.
 

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If we react to every market swing, we are probably going to lose a lot of money.

Eg. If we thought last Friday that the market was going to fall more and sold out from REITs to buy bonds (which is what ARI might have done), then we would be feeling stuck now when it rebounded.

If the market keeps rising, then we may be forced to buy in at a higher price (or lose out on gains as the market rises). This would end up with the classic "Sell Low, Buy High" situation. (ARI may end up automatically doing this for you. The big question is how effective ARI is at predicting future market movements...)

It isn't just a question of rising or falling markets. That is more relevant if we are comparing 100% stocks versus a stock & bond portfolio. ARI has the added component of market timing, and so the big question is how good the system is at timing the market...
 
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