The Nexus 4 Thread

[shawniiex]

Rooting and unlocking the bootloader sure has a lot of benefits. Whether the users want to take the leap is up to them. Some wants to use the phone without any hassle like a fruity phone, who is to comment otherwise? My 2c is that there is no point showing an elitist stance or shoving it down to others. Its like shoving down your religious belief down someone else's throat.

I rooted and unlocked my HTC Desire HD as well as HP Touchpad and played with it extensively enough to have a good feel of the android modding community, and occasionally tell people the benefits and problems (mostly related to non nexus phones, they can be quite a headache trying to root and rom it) of rooting and installing custom roms. People who are interested will come and learn more from me, people who arn't can continue living in their own happy world, nothing wrong with that.

Despite the Nexus being a developer phone, its a great phone to use by default. It touts top end SOC, decent battery, and pure stock android which is arguably better than any other forms of skins and extra bloat features you see on other phones. Why shouldn't it go mainstream? I for one would like to see Nexus become mainstream because its simply beautiful and streamlined unlike Touchwiz or Sense, which I feel have given Android a name of being messy/user-unfriendly.

I love my Gnex, 4.2 is out whereas all other phones gotta wait an "eternity" for it. That's the point of a nexus. Nothing else really. Updates straight from google.

Given the Android story, it's quite a pity to see that Android has been fragmented to skins like Touchwiz and Sense. However, i believe it was the only way to go to get Android popular enough.

If google did not let Samsung or any other manufacturer near their software, Android just wouldn't be what it is today.

 

[Ratix0]

I love my Gnex, 4.2 is out whereas all other phones gotta wait an "eternity" for it. That's the point of a nexus. Nothing else really. Updates straight from google.

Given the Android story, it's quite a pity to see that Android has been fragmented to skins like Touchwiz and Sense. However, i believe it was the only way to go to get Android popular enough.

If google did not let Samsung or any other manufacturer near their software, Android just wouldn't be what it is today.

It is indeed a sad thing. But think back into the days of Eclair, Froyo and Gingerbread when Android starts grabbing traction in the mobilephone market. The stock android UI isn't as polished as what we have right now and honestly speaking the manufacturer skins are doing android a big favor.

Enter ICS+ era, Android gains a **** load of polish which made it the way it is today. I feel that only at the ICS+ stage is when android skins stop functioning the way it ought to be and becomes a burden to android.

And yes, instant updates from google, but honestly how many users really care about this? Most android phone users don't really care about software updates if you ask me, probably not including those from HWZ but most other users probably don't know or care much about android 4.1 and 4.2.

Also, I read: AnandTech - Google Nexus 4 Review - Google's new Flagship

The Nexus One had extremely aspirational goals for a first-gen Googlephone — it tried to change the way that phones are sold in the US and tried to deliver a fully carrier-agnostic reference platform for developers and OEMs to build out from.

The nexus line is less of just being a series which is targeted at developers, it is more of touted as a revolutionary series of device meant to change the current trend of contractual based mobile phones, especially the bazillion versions of a single phone on different carrier with varied specs. Its purpose was much more than just being a developer phone, it was made to be the example in order to push towards their vision where you get a mobile phone and not get tied down to contracts.

 

[shawniiex]

It is indeed a sad thing. But think back into the days of Eclair, Froyo and Gingerbread when Android starts grabbing traction in the mobilephone market. The stock android UI isn't as polished as what we have right now and honestly speaking the manufacturer skins are doing android a big favor.

Enter ICS+ era, Android gains a **** load of polish which made it the way it is today. I feel that only at the ICS+ stage is when android skins stop functioning the way it ought to be and becomes a burden to android.

And yes, instant updates from google, but honestly how many users really care about this? Most android phone users don't really care about software updates if you ask me, probably not including those from HWZ but most other users probably don't know or care much about android 4.1 and 4.2.

Also, I read: AnandTech - Google Nexus 4 Review - Google's new Flagship



The nexus line is less of just being a series which is targeted at developers, it is more of touted as a revolutionary series of device meant to change the current trend of contractual based mobile phones, especially the bazillion versions of a single phone on different carrier with varied specs. Its purpose was much more than just being a developer phone, it was made to be the example in order to push towards their vision where you get a mobile phone and not get tied down to contracts.

Froyo... On my tiny X10 Mini Pro which i loved so much, haha.

Updates do matter bro, we dont talk about the insignificant upgrades from say 4.1 to 4.1.1. We talk about how long it'll take for a phone to get from ICS to JB at the point where JB is announced.

Simple example would be most LG and HTC phones, they'll probably never experience JB whereas JB was built around the gnex.
The different visuals between ICS and JB just made me want to get a gnex even more, that i sold off my S2 just to get a gnex.

At the end of the day 80% of users might not give a **** about those updates. But i'm in that 20% who wants the best from google when it's available.

 

[justln]

Nexus 4 sold in Europe has a recommended retail price of 599€ (760$)

LG's Nexus 4 price tag leaves European shoppers fuming | CNET UK

 

[Sauron]

Nexus 4 sold in Europe has a recommended retail price of 599€ (760$)

LG's Nexus 4 price tag leaves European shoppers fuming | CNET UK

That's why it's all sold out at the play store

 

[Ryecon]

so the white nexus 4 is rumored to be coming soon

http://www.androidauthority.com/white-nexus-4-listed-carphone-warehouse-image-leak-131235/

 

[52gdpl]

T-Mobile in the US is selling it without contract "unsubsidized" for 499 usd for 16gb. thats bad news for sg.

 

[captylor]

Bro, are you on XDA?
I've given up on proper Singaporeans using Android for what it is.
Sometimes when i'm on the train, i wonder how many people using their S3, Note are rooted.

Those two statements don't sit well with me. You don't need to root your phone to be an Android power user.

In the past, I root my HTC Dream and Nexus One because Android in those days was not that mature yet. Apps2SD was not baked in by default, Adobe Flash was not ready even though Google promised it will be supported, paid apps in the Android Market was only available to a few countries. Android in its current state is way much better than it was 3 years ago. Look at Jelly Bean. I don't root my Note 2 now because by default, it functions well as my daily driver. There is no feature that I sorely miss in Jelly Bean that will prompt me to root my phone. Sure, one of the main advantages of rooting is that one can replace the recovery manager and flash custom ROMs. But I am too busy with work nowadays to pay much attention to the custom ROM scene.

And how do I use my Note 2? Not for listening music or watching Youtube all the time. I use it to manage my calendar, my schedule, my tasks, to read up on technical documents, to read e-books, to keep in touch with friends and play some games once in a while. Does that make me a novice user?

Of course not. A smartphone is meant to help us manage our lives, to enable us to make better use of our time, be it for work or social activities or leisure. It is how you use your phone that determines whether you are a power user, not whether you have root your phone and are actively flashing custome ROM.

There. I have said my piece.

 

[emuji]

Those two statements don't sit well with me. You don't need to root your phone to be an Android power user.

In the past, I root my HTC Dream and Nexus One because Android in those days was not that mature yet. Apps2SD was not baked in by default, Adobe Flash was not ready even though Google promised it will be supported, paid apps in the Android Market was only available to a few countries. Android in its current state is way much better than it was 3 years ago. Look at Jelly Bean. I don't root my Note 2 now because by default, it functions well as my daily driver. There is no feature that I sorely miss in Jelly Bean that will prompt me to root my phone. Sure, one of the main advantages of rooting is that one can replace the recovery manager and flash custom ROMs. But I am too busy with work nowadays to pay much attention to the custom ROM scene.

And how do I use my Note 2? Not for listening music or watching Youtube all the time. I use it to manage my calendar, my schedule, my tasks, to read up on technical documents, to read e-books, to keep in touch with friends and play some games once in a while. Does that make me a novice user?

Of course not. A smartphone is meant to help us manage our lives, to enable us to make better use of our time, be it for work or social activities or leisure. It is how you use your phone that determines whether you are a power user, not whether you have root your phone and are actively flashing custome ROM.

There. I have said my piece.

quite well said. i was an ex-rooter too

 

[emuji]

so the white nexus 4 is rumored to be coming soon

http://www.androidauthority.com/white-nexus-4-listed-carphone-warehouse-image-leak-131235/

not again? black front and white back?

 

[shawniiex]

Those two statements don't sit well with me. You don't need to root your phone to be an Android power user.

In the past, I root my HTC Dream and Nexus One because Android in those days was not that mature yet. Apps2SD was not baked in by default, Adobe Flash was not ready even though Google promised it will be supported, paid apps in the Android Market was only available to a few countries. Android in its current state is way much better than it was 3 years ago. Look at Jelly Bean. I don't root my Note 2 now because by default, it functions well as my daily driver. There is no feature that I sorely miss in Jelly Bean that will prompt me to root my phone. Sure, one of the main advantages of rooting is that one can replace the recovery manager and flash custom ROMs. But I am too busy with work nowadays to pay much attention to the custom ROM scene.

And how do I use my Note 2? Not for listening music or watching Youtube all the time. I use it to manage my calendar, my schedule, my tasks, to read up on technical documents, to read e-books, to keep in touch with friends and play some games once in a while. Does that make me a novice user?

Of course not. A smartphone is meant to help us manage our lives, to enable us to make better use of our time, be it for work or social activities or leisure. It is how you use your phone that determines whether you are a power user, not whether you have root your phone and are actively flashing custome ROM.

There. I have said my piece.

yep, totally understand your point. i was just pointing out to the other guy, cause he was so frustrated with HWZ. saying all the people are like isheep.

but oh well, we're on the subject of the nexus 4 here, stock android experience

 

[shawniiex]

not again? black front and white back?

makes you wonder what will happen to the beautiful back design they have on the black model.

 

[emuji]

makes you wonder what will happen to the beautiful back design they have on the black model.

glittery i supposed haha but really, black front and white back? i take black anytime

 

[sakuragi8]

Anybody got their orders shipped?

 

[Ratix0]

Froyo... On my tiny X10 Mini Pro which i loved so much, haha.

Updates do matter bro, we dont talk about the insignificant upgrades from say 4.1 to 4.1.1. We talk about how long it'll take for a phone to get from ICS to JB at the point where JB is announced.

Simple example would be most LG and HTC phones, they'll probably never experience JB whereas JB was built around the gnex.
The different visuals between ICS and JB just made me want to get a gnex even more, that i sold off my S2 just to get a gnex.

At the end of the day 80% of users might not give a **** about those updates. But i'm in that 20% who wants the best from google when it's available.

Precisely, i care about my update and it breaks my heart when htc decide to pull their "ready" ics update.

But for most other common users, they dont really care. So why would nexus having fast updates be a factor that appeals to them?

 

[tan1688]

if need to ship back US for warranty repair => "free no charge repair "
also okay ahr i think should be less than 40sgd to and fro via comgateway.

world getting smaller...

 

[xonix]

if need to ship back US for warranty repair => "free no charge repair "
also okay ahr i think should be less than 40sgd to and fro via comgateway.

world getting smaller...

If shipping back for warranty, no need go through 3rd party liao

 

[ahse0w]

The yellow tint screen issue is back. Be sure to check your phone for it. It will happen if the phone is getting too hot. Not sure if lg Singapore will do replacement or not.
This issue does not go away and it will leave a permanent yellow tint.
Check out xda forum nexus 4 general.

 

[sakuragi8]

no movements in this tread..

 

[shawniiex]

no movements in this tread..

all awaiting the shipments to come mah. nothing else to discuss till then haha.