The Spectacles Thread. - Part 2

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More Blue light researches on diseases are out. Proven blue light plays a part. More clinical trials are needed to prove new coatings, but they do no harm, in fact might even be good over long term.
No evidence to also show its useless
Hoping for more results in future to further confirm the benefits. Lets keep our options open guys!

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More Blue light researches on diseases are out. Proven blue light plays a part. More clinical trials are needed to prove new coatings, but they do no harm, in fact might even be good over long term.
No evidence to also show its useless
Hoping for more results in future to further confirm the benefits. Lets keep our options open guys!

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This is actually a bit ambiguous. Because like someone here said.. All research has to be backed.. And funds come from people who want results
 

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Sorry if I confused. To clarify. Blue light does affect our eyes. Not talking abt blue lenses effectiveness. Regarding lenses still not proven

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yes you are right. the blue-violet spectrum of visible light + UV light does have impart on eyes and our lives.

Lenses at the moment are based on cutting out the blue-violet spectrum + UV light. No exact studies have been conducted to prove if these lenses indeed help us by reducing the effects of blue-violet light whether on eye disease prevention or sleep cycle.

All these are liken to the seat belt theory. you can choose to wear a seat belt in the car. but there is not 100% guarantee that you will not die when there is an accident.
 

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yes no evidence to prove good or bad yet. one fact is no harm. lets wait for more results in future, give it more time to gather the results they need to convince us to buy it. before that happens, lets not push it away and say its useless. pang chance a abit. prevencia just come out only, nid more ppl to wear and give feedback first.
im sure everyone's comments will bring all this to a whole new level of knowledge on these topics.
 

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True. We need more results. Not enough results so far.

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there are no results to begin with. only studies conducted with blue blocking lenses used in the eye post-cataract surgery have been conducted. No significant results have been obtained in those studies.

Studies have to be conducted on spectacle lenses before anything can be concluded.

So, like I've said so far. Everything is based on the seat belt theory. you won't know if blue blocking works until something happens to your eyes (in the future - IF ANY) if you wear glasses without blue blocking lenses.
 
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i understand your point that no results to prove the effectiveness of the lens. we all know. they are tryign to address the issue with blue light affecting eyes which happens as studied. hopefully in future with more numbers/researches they can prove/disprove the blue lens or prevencia lenses!
 

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i understand your point that no results to prove the effectiveness of the lens. we all know. they are tryign to address the issue with blue light affecting eyes which happens as studied. hopefully in future with more numbers/researches they can prove/disprove the blue lens or prevencia lenses!

Yea that should be the case. But there definitely is false marketing in certain black sheeps in this industry. Not only do they not weight the pros and cons of the lenses, they vouch for the lenses with their lives.:s13:

As eye care professionals, there must be evidence based advice given to patients/customers. Some might say that the optical industry is only sales based. However, I believe that one day it will go in the direction of healthcare based (just like western countries).
 

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hope so too.

Recently I noticed oliver peoples frames getting more and more like rayban. I mean of course they are all brands of Luxottica but recently really the frames getting lousier.

Especially the italy made ones. the plastic getting more and more rayban like. The made in japan one can feel that the plastic more premium. Detailing also look better.

Anyone else notice that?
 

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I dun know about blue light for lens and usually quite skeptical about all the marketing gimmick but i recently changed my screen protector on my phone to a new one and realized that when i use it especially in the dark, it was not so straining on the eye as my previous one.

Then i went to check the product literature, it mentioned about blue light reduction.
 

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hope so too.

Recently I noticed oliver peoples frames getting more and more like rayban. I mean of course they are all brands of Luxottica but recently really the frames getting lousier.

Especially the italy made ones. the plastic getting more and more rayban like. The made in japan one can feel that the plastic more premium. Detailing also look better.

Anyone else notice that?
Well I dont follow ray ban frames, but I saw a few recently and yes, it seems to be made of some kind of lousy plastic.

Even for the augusto valentini frames I got... im not impressed at all even though it states Made in Italy. But for a $200 frame... okay lah, I buy. The eeally good acetate ones I have seen are usually 300 and above.

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hope so too.

Recently I noticed oliver peoples frames getting more and more like rayban. I mean of course they are all brands of Luxottica but recently really the frames getting lousier.

Especially the italy made ones. the plastic getting more and more rayban like. The made in japan one can feel that the plastic more premium. Detailing also look better.

Anyone else notice that?
Been happening for the last ten years
And Italians are known for wood and leather
Not really other stuff
 

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Could you kindly list about 5-10 brands with quality materials and workmanship? How is Silhouette?

Thank you!

I like Viktor and Rolf materials but screws will go loose quite often. Ic berlin, mykita,999.9.

All these I aiming. Sihoulette too flimsy for me.
 

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Recently Alain mikli also getting bad after the buyover. Stark eyes still going strong despite the buy over.

Don't know if people noticed.

the bad part, or what seem "bad" stems from the acetate, supposedly was "aged" before being used so the frames are made from a harder material .
nowadays it's much softer, likely the material is "fresh"

another thing would be the spring hinges, it used to be looser , the spring is harder these days ,
my guess is the manufacturer is using their own factories or other factories ? no info can't be sure

i'm into toy collecting, sometimes changing the factory due to cost can hurt QC standards

beyond these two points i do not see much differences, i think it's really what people expect from them rather than sliding standards. the differences are there but it's not a drastic slide.

starck is an ok frame but if say i were to step onto a super cheap nylon frame as opposed to a mikli/starck the nylon frame will survive better

so quality materials and workmanship is generally differently perceived
should glasses last longer because of the price?

most of the time we pay more for a lot of other stuff, silk dresses
electronics
you'll noticed even for cheaper brands of electronics they last as long
if properly designed .
no one is going to assume the silk dress last better than a t shirt
no matter the workmanship
 
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