The Watch Thread - Part 16

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Why do you need magnetic shielding??
I read that watches (due to the presence of a lot of metal, parts, and metal spiral) will get magnetized over time easily.

Also since Steinhart is not everywhere (unlike brands like Seiko), I am worried if I run into issues with Steinhart say 6 years from now, I will have nowhere to go for service. (reliable service that maintains the DIVER 300m rating)

hence worried about the magnetized part
 

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My gateway to Rolex watch. I got the Pepsi GMT which I wear sometimes still. Use a de-magnetiser (<$30) if it becomes magnetised.

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so pretty right
as a Steinhart owner, how does it wear overtime???

I've been reading about it across different platforms and most people fine Steinhart to be really high in quality.

But I was wondering if I should save a bit more and get the OEM Seiko SPB143
$900 Rolex Homage vs $1450+ Seiko OEM SPB143


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How come most people don't wear watches nowadays?

City Chain pays high rental, but now has to give up to 70% discount to generate some cashflow.

Is the watch business a dying industry, which is being replaced by smartphones which give a very accurate time?

Remember one time, everybody who was anybody would carry a compact digital camera (Olympus, Nikon, Canon, Casio...) but when the smartphone camera got better, the compact camera industry died.
watch wearing is now a minority hobby

functionally, people have access to a very very very accurate clock 24/7
Your Smartphone syncs the time with telco's time in realtime

functionally, there's also quartz
and now, people are into Apple Watch for both times telling and its sports tracking features

I am a new watch enthusiast, but I know we are all a dying breed
 

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How come most people don't wear watches nowadays?
City Chain pays high rental, but now has to give up to 70% discount to generate some cashflow.
Is the watch business a dying industry, which is being replaced by smartphones which give a very accurate time?
Remember one time, everybody who was anybody would carry a compact digital camera (Olympus, Nikon, Canon, Casio...) but when the smartphone camera got better, the compact camera industry died.

Do you have stats for that or based on own assumption?

High end watches are doing well, selling like hotcakes. Likewise for lower end ones. Go to bencoolen and ppl are still buying gshocks regularly. New models always oos
 

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I read that watches (due to the presence of a lot of metal, parts, and metal spiral) will get magnetized over time easily.
Also since Steinhart is not everywhere (unlike brands like Seiko), I am worried if I run into issues with Steinhart say 6 years from now, I will have nowhere to go for service. (reliable service that maintains the DIVER 300m rating)
hence worried about the magnetized part
Based on the link you provided above, the steinhart uses eta 2893. Should not be a problem for servicing in sg
 

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so pretty right
as a Steinhart owner, how does it wear overtime???

I've been reading about it across different platforms and most people fine Steinhart to be really high in quality.

But I was wondering if I should save a bit more and get the OEM Seiko SPB143
$900 Rolex Homage vs $1450+ Seiko OEM SPB143

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In my opinion, it wears well and I do get the occasional "what watch is that?".

If we're talking quality, I would probably say sub-par if you compare with Seiko. I had some dust and blemish on my Steinhart when it first arrived. Sending it back for service (within warranty period) wasn't too difficult and it was all paid for by Steinhart but the wait time was about a month.

Hope this helps to compare with getting a Seiko which has decent quality and ease of service locally.
 

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Based on the link you provided above, the steinhart uses eta 2893. Should not be a problem for servicing in sg
oh wow, thanks for sharing

but the DIVER 300m part, from my limited knowledge, not many people in SG can guarantee this after opening a watch up. Do you happen to know of service providers who do high-quality work and also keep the DIVER rating?
 

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In my opinion, it wears well and I do get the occasional "what watch is that?".

If we're talking quality, I would probably say sub-par if you compare with Seiko. I had some dust and blemish on my Steinhart when it first arrived. Sending it back for service (within warranty period) wasn't too difficult and it was all paid for by Steinhart but the wait time was about a month.

Hope this helps to compare with getting a Seiko which has decent quality and ease of service locally.
oh wow, as a Seiko fan, I am surprised to read this
because there is so much online chatter complaining about Seiko (some watches the crown is misaligned).

so you have to pay for shipping to Germany, and have them serviced it in Germany and then be sent back to you? Is that why it took a month?
 

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Do you have stats for that or based on own assumption?

High end watches are doing well, selling like hotcakes. Likewise for lower end ones. Go to bencoolen and ppl are still buying gshocks regularly. New models always oos
I don't have stats or former data
but in my circle of friends (I have a healthy diversity of friends from various income groups),
most of them are into Apple Watch and/or bare essential cheap quartz watch

when I posted on Facebook about Seiko, I get comments like "just get an Apple Watch" and it makes me roll my eyes
 

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oh wow, as a Seiko fan, I am surprised to read this
because there is so much online chatter complaining about Seiko (some watches the crown is misaligned).

so you have to pay for shipping to Germany, and have them serviced it in Germany and then be sent back to you? Is that why it took a month?
Think you misread my post. I paid nothing for service. It took long maybe cause Germans take their own sweet time perhaps?
 

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Think you misread my post. I paid nothing for service. It took long maybe cause Germans take their own sweet time perhaps?
sorry I read it too quickly
haha, that would mean when the warranty is over, I can send watches over to service as well (if they are still around). Good to know.

I am still surprised to hear that Seiko is of higher quality than the Steinhart
I guess I made the mistake of judging a watch's quality solely based on the calibre (ETA 2893-2 accuracy is better than SPB143's 6R35)
 

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sorry I read it too quickly
haha, that would mean when the warranty is over, I can send watches over to service as well (if they are still around). Good to know.

I am still surprised to hear that Seiko is of higher quality than the Steinhart
I guess I made the mistake of judging a watch's quality solely based on the calibre (ETA 2893-2 accuracy is better than SPB143's 6R35)
Not sure about Steinhart vs Seiko quality. I guess what is important is if either of them are willing to replace or fix the watch if you do have concerns.

As for accuracy, it was pretty important when I first got into buying watches, then along the journey, I came to understand and realise that it isn't as important (unless we are talking +/-30s).

I learned to appreciate the watch and what it represents as I wear it on my wrist.
 

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Not sure about Steinhart vs Seiko quality. I guess what is important is if either of them are willing to replace or fix the watch if you do have concerns.

As for accuracy, it was pretty important when I first got into buying watches, then along the journey, I came to understand and realise that it isn't as important (unless we are talking +/-30s).

I learned to appreciate the watch and what it represents as I wear it on my wrist.
man I wish I am at your level of collection
this is going to be a big purchase for me and I want it to mark a turning point in my life

that's why I am so hesitant over which to get
 

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I don't have stats or former data
but in my circle of friends (I have a healthy diversity of friends from various income groups),
most of them are into Apple Watch and/or bare essential cheap quartz watch
when I posted on Facebook about Seiko, I get comments like "just get an Apple Watch" and it makes me roll my eyes

My qns not directed at you lah hahha

Anyway, to each his own. Maybe they have their hobbies which you may not understand too
 

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My qns not directed at you lah hahha

Anyway, to each his own. Maybe they have their hobbies which you may not understand too
no la not directed at me but since I have similar sentiments
it is good to discuss!!!

trading opinions respectfully is after all what we are all here for, in a forum <3
 

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How come most people don't wear watches nowadays?

City Chain pays high rental, but now has to give up to 70% discount to generate some cashflow.

Is the watch business a dying industry, which is being replaced by smartphones which give a very accurate time?

Remember one time, everybody who was anybody would carry a compact digital camera (Olympus, Nikon, Canon, Casio...) but when the smartphone camera got better, the compact camera industry died.
Erm..no??
Just look at the stupid games AD playing now and popularity of grey market, you know liao whether watches are dying or not
 

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watch wearing is now a minority hobby
functionally, people have access to a very very very accurate clock 24/7
Your Smartphone syncs the time with telco's time in realtime
functionally, there's also quartz
and now, people are into Apple Watch for both times telling and its sports tracking features
I am a new watch enthusiast, but I know we are all a dying breed
Just remember that nowadays, watches are worn as a clothing accessory and not really to tell the time. You wear a watch to complement your outfit - raise it to the next level... lol. It shows that you appreciate the artistry of that tiny 'machine' that you are wearing on your wrist. In a business setting, it contributes to your professional image.

If there is any one who derides watch wearing because "you can equally tell the time from your phone", you can only look on the person in pity. He/she does not know the true value and purpose of a watch in the modern context. But to each his own ...
 
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