The Watch Thread - Part 5

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Funny how his own brand of watches didn't take off. Conversely its also odd to think that Patek and AP's signature designs were done by a competitor i.e. in some way outsourced :)

Well.. life is like sitting on the toilet bowl..
 

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I'm guessing you're referring to me haha!

Well as someone has mentioned earlier, watchmaker wouldn't really be an appropriate term for myself. I'll probably introduce myself as a microbrand owner or watch designer. Watchmakers would be a term reserved for those who build or design their own movements from ground up IMO. As a small brand this is almost impossible. Even larger swiss brands priced in the couple of thousands use stock ETA movements as well.

The challenges would more more on the case and dial design side. A lot of micros take the easy way out and use off the shelf parts which is why lots of small brands look the same.

Production is also a consideration as your design has to be within realistic limits. You're stuck with the same movement choices so not much could be done there. Certain design features like cutouts in my case proved tricky for normal manufacturing processes. By adding one cutout I added another 3 more manufacturing steps and also about 20% more in price!

Even the use of bronze also has its difficulties as its mechanical properties are different from steel. Tried stamping the cases but didn't work for my design so that caused a whole delay. Ended up having to use investment casting which is more expensive but gives finer detail.

Now I'm trying to design a 2-3000m diver using bronze but the commercially available pressure testers are rated to ard 1500m(and cost like 10k). So in the process of building my own now, rated to about 3500m. That's another challenge altogether!

wow... that's Deep Sea Level bro... and developed by Singaporean.

let me know if its successful. I try as much as possible to support local products (except Mediacorpse :s13:)
 

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my rolex daytona clock starting to ship from daigou.

total cost around $90 sgd. not sure if buying in SG is cheaper.
Sweeping second hands with full stainless steel body. Closed back.
hope the lume is good.

if quality good, maybe can try a group buy.
 

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my rolex daytona clock starting to ship from daigou.

total cost around $90 sgd. not sure if buying in SG is cheaper.
Sweeping second hands with full stainless steel body. Closed back.
hope the lume is good.

if quality good, maybe can try a group buy.

Lol! U so cute can... Really go n buy the clock... :s13:
 

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Lol! U so cute can... Really go n buy the clock... :s13:

ok ma. have been looking for it. wanted the panerai deal clock but ex. $200 plus. so didn't hoot.
this clock like interesting. my closest to owning a daytona now. LOL

put in my room quite satki although only i see lol
 

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ok ma. have been looking for it. wanted the panerai deal clock but ex. $200 plus. so didn't hoot.
this clock like interesting. my closest to owning a daytona now. LOL

put in my room quite satki although only i see lol

Ya tried the daytona... Kinda like it too tho i m not really a rollie person..:D
 

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ok ma. have been looking for it. wanted the panerai deal clock but ex. $200 plus. so didn't hoot.
this clock like interesting. my closest to owning a daytona now. LOL

put in my room quite satki although only i see lol

You want people to see ah?

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I'm guessing you're referring to me haha!

Well as someone has mentioned earlier, watchmaker wouldn't really be an appropriate term for myself. I'll probably introduce myself as a microbrand owner or watch designer. Watchmakers would be a term reserved for those who build or design their own movements from ground up IMO. As a small brand this is almost impossible. Even larger swiss brands priced in the couple of thousands use stock ETA movements as well.

The challenges would more more on the case and dial design side. A lot of micros take the easy way out and use off the shelf parts which is why lots of small brands look the same.

Production is also a consideration as your design has to be within realistic limits. You're stuck with the same movement choices so not much could be done there. Certain design features like cutouts in my case proved tricky for normal manufacturing processes. By adding one cutout I added another 3 more manufacturing steps and also about 20% more in price!

Even the use of bronze also has its difficulties as its mechanical properties are different from steel. Tried stamping the cases but didn't work for my design so that caused a whole delay. Ended up having to use investment casting which is more expensive but gives finer detail.

Now I'm trying to design a 2-3000m diver using bronze but the commercially available pressure testers are rated to ard 1500m(and cost like 10k). So in the process of building my own now, rated to about 3500m. That's another challenge altogether!

and if anyone wants some context, check out this post
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/83917367-post4252.html

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my rolex daytona clock starting to ship from daigou.

total cost around $90 sgd. not sure if buying in SG is cheaper.
Sweeping second hands with full stainless steel body. Closed back.
hope the lume is good.

if quality good, maybe can try a group buy.

Hand wound anot.. Lol..!!!

Nice buy and do review when it arrive.. :)
 

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@elsan I think Sinn has a 2000m pressure tester. If I'm not wrong.

Sinn is a pretty large company so I'm sure they would have one for their ux models etc. Small companies like myself aren't so lucky though, the one being used by AP service centre in Singapore only tests till 1500m and costs about 10k haha.
 

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Sinn is a pretty large company so I'm sure they would have one for their ux models etc. Small companies like myself aren't so lucky though, the one being used by AP service centre in Singapore only tests till 1500m and costs about 10k haha.

so that means the only way to test 3000m is overseas? :eek:
 

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Sinn is a pretty large company so I'm sure they would have one for their ux models etc. Small companies like myself aren't so lucky though, the one being used by AP service centre in Singapore only tests till 1500m and costs about 10k haha.

not able to ask them test for you?
 
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