The Watch Thread - Part 6

[Spartanz.]

I was also thinking, do u guys feel confident n safe buying a expensive watch with inhouse movement ? Watches with complicated functions like chronograph, pr reserve indicator etc ?when service centers can't solve simple issues? Sending in a watch with a easily repaired basic Swiss movement already is a problem

Servicing a omega moon watch cost around 900 bucks, imagine having defects after a costly service, would anyone be happy ?


This is also why there are certain brands i avoid that doesn't have local service centers. Imagine sending watch back to the watch's oversea headquarters n coming back with issues? It'S a pity cause i like brands like Sinn and Grand Seiko but when it comes to servicing i worry .. U guys can read so many horror stories of Sinn servicing online....


Thoughts anyone?

 

[Daniel.Y]

I would prefer the watches I buy to have a local service centre. At least the shipping won't kill me. Next up would be the servicing costs. For instance, I read that a typical AP royal oak servicing would cost almost 2-3k. I don't think I will want to service my watch a short 4-5 years cos I believe because of the premium we pay, the watch should made to last longer than the usual servicing period

Noted on your point, maybe I will buy something next time.

 

[bob83hello]

i bought thru a friend working inside swatch, so need to order.

so have staff discount? u keen to sic?

 

[Henabi]

Citizen? They are bigger than Seiko.

Citizen bigger than seiko?! Sauce??

 

[Spartanz.]

I would prefer the watches I buy to have a local service centre. At least the shipping won't kill me. Next up would be the servicing costs. For instance, I read that a typical AP royal oak servicing would cost almost 2-3k. I don't think I will want to service my watch a short 4-5 years cos I believe because of the premium we pay, the watch should made to last longer than the usual servicing period

Noted on your point, maybe I will buy something next time.[/QUOTE

No lah not suggesting u to buy something.. Make full use of the warranty n make sure to check the watch very carefully after servicing ...check not only the defect u reported but also other areas like scratches caused, any dirt stuck in the watch n timekeeping...


Price wise i don't mind paying more if it comes back to me in a excellent condtion .. Ap royal oak is a chrono , of course it's more costly... Even a moonwatch cost around 900 ..imagine having yr serviced watch back with timekeeping issues, cosmetic issues etc

 

[runningman.snsd]

anyone knows where to get the cheapest snzh51 53 or 55, or skx007 at the cheapest price?

 

[exxondus]

Latest hoot

The strap super lomg. In the end had to cut the tail. Hai.

 

[a562140]

that an innovation? the manuf process is innovative

Both isn't it ... less parts longer power reserve that can be mass produced. Even I can engineer one of a kind 1,000 hour power reserve watch with in house movement that takes special servicing. But a bullet proof mass produced movement - that's a real leap forwards.

convenience and mech watches? with good auto wind, a pwr res of 38-42hrs is enough for most ppl. ppl nuts about convenience will be spending time adjusting the time as its slower or faster by 1 min.. 90hr pwr res does not solve this issue. if winding is inefficient it may not even hold 90hr of pwr res watch may still die after 38hrs.
that an innovation?

from another POV most people find mechanicals leh chey and therefore don't want to own too many pieces. if not they wear one for a long time so that the auto movement requires them to use it at least once in two days i.e. two a week. Say if everyone owned an auto 8 -day movement, its forseaable that folks could up the rotation schedule to 4-5 different watches a week. Aside from price increases, giving people to own more mechanicals is the other way to grow the business.

ETA has not shipped to our fashion brands anyway. China movement killer no way. there are SW etc out there design to fill this gap. citizen is also in the market to fill this gap.

All I can say is that cost to quality - Chinese will be there in no time. Japanese are biggest movement makers today but the watch business has been struggling since 2010. Its evident that Chinese movements are growing rapidly. Lines are also blurring because a lot of Chinese companies are buying over Swiss Watch companies. But don't underestimate the Chinese - they have a thriving aerospace industry, the Swiss don't. Japs have paved the way, Chinese will follow in tow.

Swatch is just trying new production process, bring cost down.. hire few ppl to run the factory and be producing more mechanical. repurpose these ppl to ramp up supply for their own brands.

They have to do something...Swatch the watch brand is dying... just do a quick corridor check.

Swatch the group derives most profits from ETA movement sales, so to cut external supply is a risky decision, especially since the Luxury Business is 100% correlated to the state of the global economy. Recent years have been fueled by growth of affluent in China disproportionately.

 

[kinbalight]

Latest hoot

The strap super lomg. In the end had to cut the tail. Hai.

Where did you get it from? I went to waterloo street over the weekend and popped by Bencoolen but none of the shops carried it....

Actually would be nice if this model came with bracelet...but only the white one does

 

[a562140]

I was also thinking, do u guys feel confident n safe buying a expensive watch with inhouse movement ? Watches with complicated functions like chronograph, pr reserve indicator etc ?when service centers can't solve simple issues? Sending in a watch with a easily repaired basic Swiss movement already is a problem

Servicing a omega moon watch cost around 900 bucks, imagine having defects after a costly service, would anyone be happy ?


This is also why there are certain brands i avoid that doesn't have local service centers. Imagine sending watch back to the watch's oversea headquarters n coming back with issues? It'S a pity cause i like brands like Sinn and Grand Seiko but when it comes to servicing i worry .. U guys can read so many horror stories of Sinn servicing online....


Thoughts anyone?

lets be frank this is a luxury hobby and we thrive on a sense of owning something special that others can recognise.

if you're living on an island with no one around, i'll bet my life you will value your solar-charged g-shock than your white gold patek philip

the good thing about this hobby is that watch movements are truly an antiquated piece of technology that hasn't changed much and therefore there are movements at every price level, accessible to all.

so buy what you like what you can afford, and be happy sharing it with those who can appreciate, stay away from those who can't

because mechanical watches are bound to fail and fail faster than a g-shock.

 

[Lezzare]

it was a whopping $180 for the FC logo strap, be it sliver or rose gold. Decided not to purchase it as i find it overpriced and i prefer to have my watch lay out flat.

Crazy price. I paid $75 for it at THG.

 

[exxondus]

Where did you get it from? I went to waterloo street over the weekend and popped by Bencoolen but none of the shops carried it....

Actually would be nice if this model came with bracelet...but only the white one does

From 3D. Nw bencoolen only left the yellow n the ss version.

 

[Lezzare]

Another rainy day

 

[patryn33]

Citizen bigger than seiko?! Sauce??

Wiki it not hard right?

 

[patryn33]

because mechanical watches are bound to fail and fail faster than a g-shock.

Electronic watch also will fail, things getting smaller there are issue with doping. Fail faster u mean without service? If so ya

 

[njchay1981]

My Personal Favourite Dress Watch Among my Humble Collection ...

Happy Rainy Day Guys

 

[Spartanz.]

lets be frank this is a luxury hobby and we thrive on a sense of owning something special that others can recognise.

if you're living on an island with no one around, i'll bet my life you will value your solar-charged g-shock than your white gold patek philip

the good thing about this hobby is that watch movements are truly an antiquated piece of technology that hasn't changed much and therefore there are movements at every price level, accessible to all.

so buy what you like what you can afford, and be happy sharing it with those who can appreciate, stay away from those who can't

because mechanical watches are bound to fail and fail faster than a g-shock.

thats true, buy wad u can afford.. but luxury watches should come with "luxury" service and maintainance mah..

of course mechanical watch are more fragile, all the more they need better n more detailed servcing. How would u guys feel if yr newly serviced watch come back with dirt in dial/ scratches/ misaligned hands /poor timekeeping etc..Of course there are occasional slip ups but having to go in n out of service centre numerous times, having to pay for unsastisfactory service doesnt make a consumer happy mah..

its so ironic how my serviced afforable watch come back to me in a better conditon than my more expensive watches...

thoughts??

 

[Daniel.Y]

Crazy price. I paid $75 for it at THG.

Can recommend which SA you bought from via pm if inconvenient ?

 

[info_guy]

I was also thinking, do u guys feel confident n safe buying a expensive watch with inhouse movement ? Watches with complicated functions like chronograph, pr reserve indicator etc ?when service centers can't solve simple issues? Sending in a watch with a easily repaired basic Swiss movement already is a problem

Servicing a omega moon watch cost around 900 bucks, imagine having defects after a costly service, would anyone be happy ?


This is also why there are certain brands i avoid that doesn't have local service centers. Imagine sending watch back to the watch's oversea headquarters n coming back with issues? It'S a pity cause i like brands like Sinn and Grand Seiko but when it comes to servicing i worry .. U guys can read so many horror stories of Sinn servicing online....


Thoughts anyone?

I think service issues would not be a problem for someone who sees it as a hobby.

People who would think twice because of the costs involved about sending their precious watch probably is just an "user who worries about depreciation of his watch more than enjoying it

But don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being an investor, flipper or hobbyist.

I'm a hobbyist for watches but a user for cars.

 

[kwaychapy]