The Watch Thread - Part 6

[ForumRider]

Spreading poison...

Very poisonous.....

 

[SpOrTsTeR79]

Just sharing some nice straps

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[widget]

Spreading poison...

Indeed very poisonous...
My 2 preferences

 

[RadEoNic]

hi guys
nong time no post
let me continue with a picture

 

[Strawberry_Cream]

hi guys
nong time no post
let me continue with a picture

heng I dun wear tag heuer

 

[gaoxing84]

That makes me a hipster! Lol

 

[Thai_Rak_Thai]

heng I dun wear tag heuer

mai ani kuan leh bro...i do!

 

[ComicBoy]

Wanted to share this this morning but for some reason, could not upload. Finally managed to do it when I got home.

Have not worn this for a while. Looks like it's going to be my companion for this week.

Hope everyone will have a good week ahead. Only 4 more days to the weekend!!

 

[balzebub]

Wanted to share this this morning but for some reason, could not upload. Finally managed to do it when I got home.

Have not worn this for a while. Looks like it's going to be my companion for this week.

Hope everyone will have a good week ahead. Only 4 more days to the weekend!!

Beautiful...was really tempted...but ceramic...scared of cracking it...

 

[Lezzare]

Been awhile since I checked this thread, here's what I hooted for my wife's birthday

Hope it'll make her happy.

 

[aerolord]

wa ruan... i am no body... tudor not even mentioned

 

[a562140]

Spreading poison...

They're very nice looking, very masculine lines. But I can't decide if its a sports watch or a designer watch.

When it was first launched, (the now iconic AP Royal Oak ) was a designer watch along the lines of Concord, Movado in the 70's with its unique design.

The original movement was an ultra thin automatic. So it was clearly about fashion not utility.

So fast forward today we have the extension of Offshore version for diver. Entirely based on design and looks, less so on diving needs (internal bezel).

At least prices are accessible today. The first AP RO (in white gold) was about a hundred times the cost of a Rolex Sub (in SS) then

Perhaps this sums up my confusion:

There is AP the watchmaker. There is AP Royal Oak - the watch launched in the early 70's as a fashion watch for the high net worth rich. Now there is AP Royal Oak offshore launched recently still inspired by design, not utility like Rolex, but more accessibly priced.

Any thoughts?

 

[All in a Day]

They're very nice looking, very masculine lines. But I can't decide if its a sports watch or a designer watch.

When it was first launched, (the now iconic AP Royal Oak ) was a designer watch along the lines of Concord, Movado in the 70's with its unique design.

The original movement was an ultra thin automatic. So it was clearly about fashion not utility.

So fast forward today we have the extension of Offshore version for diver. Entirely based on design and looks, less so on diving needs (internal bezel).

At least prices are accessible today. The first AP RO (in white gold) was about a hundred times the cost of a Rolex Sub (in SS) then

Perhaps this sums up my confusion:

There is AP the watchmaker. There is AP Royal Oak - the watch launched in the early 70's as a fashion watch for the high net worth rich. Now there is AP Royal Oak offshore launched recently still inspired by design, not utility like Rolex, but more accessibly priced.

Any thoughts?

Dont think the 1st AP RO was in white gold.

APs were never meant to be accessible regardless of the model and likewise rolex actually. Its your good fortune if u find the AP/rolex prices accessible. I count my blessings too in that aspect.

 

[njchay1981]

Happy Tuesday Guys!

Tuesday's T is for Tissot

 

[a562140]

Dont think the 1st AP RO was in white gold.

APs were never meant to be accessible regardless of the model and likewise rolex actually. Its your good fortune if u find the AP/rolex prices accessible. I count my blessings too in that aspect.

you're right, it was the prototypes that was done in white gold. but it accentuates the point in the original positioning of the AP Royal Oak as an exclusive watch based on design- Gerald Genta, the famous watch designer who also designed the Omega Constellation, the PP Nautilus and IWC Ingeniur.

(Just imagine - we could have ended up with the Omega Nautilus, IWC Royal Oak, AP Ingeniur and PP Constellation if Gerald Genta has progressed his ideas and designs differently).

The movement iirc was also not a pure in house movement but a collaboration with JLC and some other.

The company that comes close to mind in the modern context is Bell and Ross, inspired by a design and unique look (aviation dials) - who knows, B&R might become a top brand in 30-40 years time if they stick to their design principles.

and yes and i count my blessings being able to buy mechanical watches as all, just having some idle banter while clearing out the cobwebs in my mind.

 

[kurenai]

Tuesday's T is for Tissot

What model is tt? Looks cool

 

[coern]

you're right, it was the prototypes that was done in white gold. but it accentuates the point in the original positioning of the AP Royal Oak as an exclusive watch based on design- Gerald Genta, the famous watch designer who also designed the Omega Constellation, the PP Nautilus and IWC Ingeniur.

(Just imagine - we could have ended up with the Omega Nautilus, IWC Royal Oak, AP Ingeniur and PP Constellation if Gerald Genta has progressed his ideas and designs differently).

The movement iirc was also not a pure in house movement but a collaboration with JLC and some other.

The company that comes close to mind in the modern context is Bell and Ross, inspired by a design and unique look (aviation dials) - who knows, B&R might become a top brand in 30-40 years time if they stick to their design principles.

and yes and i count my blessings being able to buy mechanical watches as all, just having some idle banter while clearing out the cobwebs in my mind.

comparing B&R to AP??

i think the past decade's focus on "in house" vs "3rd party" etc are more about perceived value than actual value. in house movements cost more to own AND to service. That's an always-win situation for the manufacture and not the customer. that's why you have brands like hermes, mont blanc etc trying to jump on the manufacture bandwagon, and even tag heuer, by "adopting" a seiko movement as it's own.

there's some background to the JLC movements used in older AP watches - AP used to OWN 40% of JLC. to me, if you own part of the company, calling it a non in-house movement seems to be a little harsh.

Concept to Caliber: The Story Behind Audemars Piguet's Manufacture Caliber 3120 | WatchTime - USA's No.1 Watch Magazine

in any case, in the past two decades AP's been making all their movements in-house. like that still can compare to B&R??

 

[balzebub]

In house over rated la. Sometimes a high grade well regulated non in house is better in terms of performance and reliability, especially for companies with young manufacture movements. To me good to have if you don't mind paying the premium that companies slap on in house movement powered watches, but not necessary.

 

[a562140]

comparing B&R to AP??

in any case, in the past two decades AP's been making all their movements in-house. like that still can compare to B&R??

In house over rated la. Sometimes a high grade well regulated non in house is better in terms of performance and reliability, especially for companies with young manufacture movements. To me good to have if you don't mind paying the premium that companies slap on in house movement powered watches, but not necessary.

interesting points. and thanks for keeping this discussion civil guys.

totally agree that due to technology and progress we're at the point where a seiko $200 movement could best an in-house boutique movement for accuracy, reliability and serviceability. So its up to the customer to pay for what he wants - and that includes exclusivity.

if so then AP RO customers pay for exclusivity of movement and design, while B&R customer pay for exclusivity of design and standard movements.

haha the statement looks ridiculous i know but there is a lot of similarity there if you think about it. customers of both for sure don't go for common designs, and don't go for the history of the watch e.g. true sports watches = rolex sub and exp, omega, heuers.

btw i don't own either B&R nor AP though I wished I had the spare cash to

 

[charleslin]

In my opinion, in-house movement is kinda like getting a Ferrari instead of a Honda to drive on the streets, both serve the same purpose yet Ferrari costs more to service and may even lose out in accuracy (fuel efficiency in case of cars). But the thing that sets it apart and why people still buy Ferrari is entirely because of worksmanship, like having a special unique "artpiece" that isn't as mass manufactured.

Exactly same scenario as why I find it stupid that some people say it's stupid to buy a Ferrari/Lamborghini in Singapore when the street limit is barely 80km/h with so many traffic lights. It's not about the speed, just like buying a Patek perpetual calender vs a G-Shock, the Patek doesn't make time go by faster or anything.