The Watch Thread - Part 9

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Find the hidden lion watch

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Bracelet looks to be of quite high quality. How does it compare to seiko's ss bracelet for the same price?

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Don't own a seiko with ss bracelet around the same price, so i can't advice... But i do think for its price its quite well made and comfortable!
 

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Been looking at some Grand Seikos. Was offered these prices from a friend residing overseas...

SBGH037 for S$5200
SBGV005 for S$3280
SBGA029 for S$6250

Haven't been to compare local AD prices yet. How many % discount they normally give?

Any advice from the GS gurus?
 

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I wonder why too. Selita first and now this. But consumer I think it's a great movement (no pun intended) to have accurate movement at affordable prices and no longer monopolized.

There may come a day for even simpler movement which are able to keep good time being even more mass market. Similar to the swatch auto. Hehe interesting time ahead.
一直以来我都有留意Fossil旗下Swiss Technology Production 2824机芯替代品的动向与发展。但有一点我必须要提出的是,STP1-11并不是第一个ETA28xx的替代机芯。

大家或许还记得两三年前STEINHART对外发布他们有“自家”机芯ST5的印象吧?当时也就引发了ST5的确实身份危机讨论。。。到底是修饰过的海鸥ST21还是杭州芯。那网上不同论坛的一番讨论还一度影响了Steinhart OOV的销量。“为何装入大陆机芯的表款还卖得比瑞士机芯的表款来得更加贵?” 于是就挑了表迷的网上调查。。。最终得到一个结论,ST5的真实身份也许就是“江湖传说以久”的由海鸥发展,瑞士后制加工的Valanvron VAL-24。

从发掘Valanvron的存在,我们在WUS的讨论之中也发掘了KADLOO也有在基于28xx工程设计上开发“自家替代芯”。

更早之前还有另一个28xx的“替代机芯”,Claro Semag CL888,多数用在由Zodiac, Invicta, Swiss Legend, Jaques Lemann的平价表款里。但是由于CL888建立在海鸥ST16的基础上,而海鸥又是参考Miyota 82xx而发展ST16。。。因此比较少受注意。

以下是我在香港论坛发表的资讯。。。在这里与大家分享。
于香讨经常提到嘅,唔是ETA就系Sellitas。。。其他嘅就真是少提又少。。。
ETA机芯嘅其他瑞士克隆公司除佐Sellitas之外,仲有Valanvron,Kadloo,Claro Semag,同埋最近发现的Inter-T。

Valanvron 同 Kadloo嘅
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http://valanvron.ch/download/VAL-24_Specs.pdf
http://www.kadloo-online.de/epages/61207767.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61207767/Products/KAD-17
构造就同ETA非常之相似。除佐25石,28千高频之外,其余部件几乎8成相似,几乎可以对换。


Claro Semag 就容易辨认,因为係21千低频机,构造方面也有些分别。
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Sellitas与Inter-T虽然也是8/9成相似,也是高频机,但系其石数就足以同ETA身份有分。

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Sellitas机用26石,
http://www.sellita.ch/images/stories/documents/SW200_1_33_20150226.pdf

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而Inter-T就用28石。
http://inter-t.ch/pdf/IT20/IT20_spec.pdf
 
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Any advice from the GS gurus?

Only managed to find the middle one at 2.8k sgd from yodobashi in Japan. Take it as you will. As for local ad, all carrot head price. Check with local grey shaggyangel seiko.
 

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Any advice from the GS gurus?

Get a quote from Seiyan or Higuchi. Their prices should be lowest; and Higuchi usually will be cheaper. Get them to quote in both USD and Yen and after conversion to S$, there is also some differences.

Both are well established and reliable sellers from Japan and you don't have to worry about shipping issues. After ordered, you should receive the watch within 1 week.

Happy shopping.
 

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Bracelet looks to be of quite high quality. How does it compare to seiko's ss bracelet for the same price?

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My orient black Raven had a similar bracelet and I feel it is very solid. Probably heavier than the seiko 5. For 200$ watch really no horse run.

I didn't feel my speedy to be much better hahaha

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something like this

Damn value for money brand
 
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一直以来我都有留意Fossil旗下Swiss Technology Production 2824机芯替代品的动向与发展。但有一点我必须要提出的是,STP1-11并不是第一个ETA28xx的替代机芯。

大家或许还记得两三年前STEINHART对外发布他们有“自家”机芯ST5的印象吧?当时也就引发了ST5的确实身份危机讨论。。。到底是修饰过的海鸥ST21还是杭州芯。那网上不同论坛的一番讨论还一度影响了Steinhart OOV的销量。“为何装入大陆机芯的表款还卖得比瑞士机芯的表款来得更加贵?” 于是就挑了表迷的网上调查。。。最终得到一个结论,ST5的真实身份也许就是“江湖传说以久”的由海鸥发展,瑞士后制加工。

can anyone translate what is being mentioned about Fossil? o_O
 
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