The Watch Thread - Part 9

[Ed.YEO]

Oh so only the powermatic 80 arh... sad I don't really like the design, classy but too plain for me. Got other automatic quite nice tho.

How about Oris? I heard they are quite reputable brand, maybe even higher than Seiko and Tissot, they do all in house movements?

豪利士唯一的自家机芯，该是那十天续航，手搅上链款。基本款，白钢表壳+皮带，叫价大概8000。
其他的表款，都是采用ETA，SELLITAS高量生产的机芯。不过值得一提的是，豪利士买下这些机芯之后，进行自家改造，将平平无奇的机芯价值提高，却又不如IWC那样将最终价格提得高高的。
豪利士值得买，但，还是要看款式。。。

 

[kinbalight]

You could buy the SGDZ013 for about 2.4 if you pre-ordered before it sold out like hotcakes

The SBGA011 is about 4.5 after discount and evading GST direct from JP. (Cheating a bit here)

bro which shop did u get the snowflake from in japan?

i got mine there and after discounts also about 6k

share share shop lei

 

[Ed.YEO]

今时今日的品牌多数无论大小，已经不像7，80年代，卖的是工艺，卖的是信誉。而只是在卖品牌，卖历史，卖设计。所以市面上许多品牌，用的芯都大同小异，除了等级，还是功能，还是有修饰的分别了。
只要你用心爬文，从WatchThread5开始直到WT8，你不难会发现有不少对于售后服务的不满。买得起“老叻”又如何，最终，一旦进去“老叻”客服中心，取回表后再发觉“老叻”维修部给你的表留下“永恒的纪念品”。。。你说值不值得？

今时今日的大型表厂，来来去去只是在卖表。要像ORIS，Maurise Lacrox那样卖工艺的。。。难找了。

现在卖工艺，卖信誉的，多数为新进，多数人称为Microbrand的小表家。相比之下，小品牌必须在售后服务上尽心尽力。要不然一旦某些负面评语在各个网络交流平台上烧开的话，要立足就不如大公司那样平稳了。

 

[estrangable]

May i?

250 - SKX 007J
500 - Seiko Sumo
1K - Citizen Autozilla
2K - Ball Hydrocarbon series (2nd hand though, else may reach ard 3k for first hand)
4K - Omega Planet Ocean or Sping drive tuna

u mean the orange color planet ocean? I don't think it's that cheap at 4k...unless u are referring to pre-owned

 

[coern]

many people in this thread speaking out against "brand whoring" somehow just reeks of hypocrisy to me, especially when the same people are sporting AP, PP and minimally rolex/omega watches.

affordability is one thing but IMO one wouldn't really spend 20-30k on a watch if he is not a brand ***** to a certain extent

also in before "love for horology"

Same for any other luxury goods.

e.g. handbags: Hermes > Chanel > Prada > Bonia

all serve same purpose, to carry things. but the other purpose is to signal whether the person carrying it is a person with resources/cash/money to burn

 

[estrangable]

今时今日的品牌多数无论大小，已经不像7，80年代，卖的是工艺，卖的是信誉。而只是在卖品牌，卖历史，卖设计。所以市面上许多品牌，用的芯都大同小异，除了等级，还是功能，还是有修饰的分别了。
只要你用心爬文，从WatchThread5开始直到WT8，你不难会发现有不少对于售后服务的不满。买得起“老叻”又如何，最终，一旦进去“老叻”客服中心，取回表后再发觉“老叻”维修部给你的表留下“永恒的纪念品”。。。你说值不值得？

今时今日的大型表厂，来来去去只是在卖表。要像ORIS，Maurise Lacrox那样卖工艺的。。。难找了。

现在卖工艺，卖信誉的，多数为新进，多数人称为Microbrand的小表家。相比之下，小品牌必须在售后服务上尽心尽力。要不然一旦某些负面评语在各个网络交流平台上烧开的话，要立足就不如大公司那样平稳了。

In your opinion, what do you think of baume and mercier watches? It's part of the richemont group.

 

[coern]

You were so lucky to own the first Swiss in a day before madcap inflation.

Speaking with a colleague, she talked about those days a long time ago, when an Omega could be had for under 2k. Those days are now over...

priced to extract whatever the market can bear... the only reason it worked is because of chumps like us.

 

[weixiang80]

u mean the orange color planet ocean? I don't think it's that cheap at 4k...unless u are referring to pre-owned

ah... then maybe the Omega speedmaster? havent go into the arena yet

but Omega's co axial movement seems nice

 

[coern]

Got sia. Haha carousell. haha.
$40 bucks though.
http://carousell.com/dlw.watches/
But not like the Rolex cerachrom standard. Haha

basket!!! make me gian!!

OMGWTFBBQ

 

[coern]

Yeap haha. I know the last one. At least the watch landed on the moon.
I never force ah. I said no offence lol

russian cosmonauts still wearing speedy in space?

 

[coern]

Juz to add.. there's been a very unhealthy undercultutre amongst sales personnel wearing rep watches..

From Courts, Harvey, to Credit Card and all sort of salespersons.. it's either stupid to blow more than 5X monthly pay for a gen TT Sub or stupid to spend hard earned money on illegal reps.

no offense intended to the humble, honest hardworking bona fide salespersons..

F-f-f-fake it till you m-m-m-make it...

 

[zXioNGz]

豪利士唯一的自家机芯，该是那十天续航，手搅上链款。基本款，白钢表壳+皮带，叫价大概8000。
其他的表款，都是采用ETA，SELLITAS高量生产的机芯。不过值得一提的是，豪利士买下这些机芯之后，进行自家改造，将平平无奇的机芯价值提高，却又不如IWC那样将最终价格提得高高的。
豪利士值得买，但，还是要看款式。。。

看来Oris是不错的哦！昨天看了看，就在Tissot后面有一家， 但不知道好或不好， 谢了师兄！。Oris 我看了会很多是ETA，有好多啊。你能大概说说那个比较好？ ：D

 

[Panzerf]

今时今日的品牌多数无论大小，已经不像7，80年代，卖的是工艺，卖的是信誉。而只是在卖品牌，卖历史，卖设计。所以市面上许多品牌，用的芯都大同小异，除了等级，还是功能，还是有修饰的分别了。
只要你用心爬文，从WatchThread5开始直到WT8，你不难会发现有不少对于售后服务的不满。买得起“老叻”又如何，最终，一旦进去“老叻”客服中心，取回表后再发觉“老叻”维修部给你的表留下“永恒的纪念品”。。。你说值不值得？

今时今日的大型表厂，来来去去只是在卖表。要像ORIS，Maurise Lacrox那样卖工艺的。。。难找了。

现在卖工艺，卖信誉的，多数为新进，多数人称为Microbrand的小表家。相比之下，小品牌必须在售后服务上尽心尽力。要不然一旦某些负面评语在各个网络交流平台上烧开的话，要立足就不如大公司那样平稳了。

Can agree with what you said. Who can brand better nowadays, come out with some historical stories about the brand even when the brand was already finished way back then can ironically command a following.

Most important dun be chop carrot. If a watch cost is x amount, dun pay more than necessary.

 

[gaoxing84]

basket!!! make me gian!!

OMGWTFBBQ

Means Mai tu liao.
Anyone wanna buy together? Lol

 

[Panzerf]

I did enquire abt it like last year in Seiko vivo...
$11k retail , - 10 or 15% nia so will be about 8.xx k in SGD...

Singapore price really is chop carrot. I got a gs i ask in thiong sia after 20% discount is 6800. I bought in osaka for 4300.

 

[estrangable]

ah... then maybe the Omega speedmaster? havent go into the arena yet

but Omega's co axial movement seems nice

speedy will set u back at 5k plus after discounts... if u want co axial movement, then prepare to pay another extra 2 to 3k...it's ridiculous pricing

 

[Ed.YEO]

In your opinion, what do you think of baume and mercier watches? It's part of the richemont group.

印象中，

机芯方面，B&M似乎没有什么工艺可谈。(也许他们有自家机芯，但是又有多少人知道。) 相比之下，ML虽然用的是高量生产的机芯，但是有些却有经过自家修饰，外表修改，给平淡无味的机芯不止增值，还添加趣味。

价格方面，两个品牌都是属于中档品牌。以机芯论标价方面，不相上下。基本上其他表厂有的，B&M也有，由于是中档品牌，也是市面上叫“稀有”品牌，标价方面自然高过其他中低档品牌，如ORIS/FORTIS/MIDO/RADO/LONGINES/Raymond WEIL/TITONI/FC还有其他林林种种的。。。
但是给我选的话，ML是我中档品牌的首选。机芯有经过自家提升嘛。。。

样质，工质方面，ML由于在表盘布局，设计，机芯修改方面有下些功夫，自然的样貌会比较现代化，摩登。。。但是会随着时间流逝而过了一段日子之后新鲜感会慢慢淡化。B&M在设计上就比较保守，也就因为如此，几乎每只表都会变成“经典”。有机会，到二手商那里看看，拿B&M与ML的表款来比比。。。你就明白我的意思啦。

 

[Panzerf]

speedy will set u back at 5k plus after discounts... if u want co axial movement, then prepare to pay another extra 2 to 3k...it's ridiculous pricing

That is the reason why omega price increase much. After all,it has been the "poor man" daytona .

 

[TheCaffeEspresso]

any fashion or trend comment on my casio edifice efr 535bk?

Sent from Mount Everest Base Camp using GAGT

 

[a562140]

Source to get direct from jp?

Search Rakuten. I bought many direct from Rakuten including the SGDZ013, SBDC027 and limited edition mm300 with gold hands. I vaguely remember buying two limited editions at a go and getting a further discount from the shop to offset shipping.

But buyer beware, its like any other web purchase. I've bought vintage stuff that turned out fake too, but my transactions with the main seiko shops e.g. Seiko3S.

There was this shop that even did an escrow and bidded used stuff for me. Too bad he encountered a few cheats from Singapore and stopped providing the service.