The Watch Thread - Part 9

[Donten]

not sure if i'm wols but support local anyway !

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/zelos-helmsman-watch

his latest item looks real good. carbon casing.

 

[JX1983]

My 1st time buying a mechanical watch today

 

[patryn33]

Sad to say mine was not upright even though is was fully screwed down.

I not particular whether the crown is upright or not, I more concern with the accuracy of the Soprod A10-2 movement. So far after more then 1 month of monitoring, I can say the accuracy is as good as a chronometer.

You are concern with soprod accuracy? U doubt the movement design (mod design from seiko 4L25 which powered many credor) or soprod QC or steinhart QC?

 

[noidea]

Honestly ask yourself, you will spend your four-digit buy ordinary movement, nothing outstanding design and brand it? I myself would not. I spend about two thousand, you can buy an Observatory level 39 two chronograph.

this is what I got after translation from Ed.YEO.

So In a way, you're saying that Hamilton is not worth buying?

 

[Ed.YEO]

除了Orient STAR之外。。。

。。。有些Aqua Tera味道的日本錶，该属Kentex了！
http://www.kentexwatch.com/espy

 

[Ed.YEO]

this is what I got after translation from Ed.YEO.

So In a way, you're saying that Hamilton is not worth buying?

的确。。。那些叫价过千的錶款，在本地买实在不值得。要买，去外国网站看，价格更有竞争性。
市价过千，机芯又没有什么打磨，修饰，28XX/649X 机芯，或者近两千买个 775X 计时錶，不如买Steinhart/Kemner/UHR 更加物有所值。
而且，你有必要了解，在本地，Hamilton的市场定位，只是高Tissot一点点。

 

[noidea]

的确。。。那些叫价过千的錶款，在本地买实在不值得。要买，去外国网站看，价格更有竞争性。
市价过千，机芯又没有什么打磨，修饰，28XX/649X 机芯，或者近两千买个 775X 计时錶，不如买Steinhart/Kemner/UHR 更加物有所值。
而且，你有必要了解，在本地，Hamilton的市场定位，只是高Tissot一点点。

understood ... thanks Ed.YEO
infact I'am keeping some 'bones' to get Hamilton Pan
I'm an sucker for blue ...

 

[gaoxing84]

Back in SG. Woohoo! It has been a hooting experience in Japan. Share the loots soon!

 

[Ed.YEO]

......to get Hamilton Pan
I'm an sucker for blue ...

举双手支持！！！
泛欧洲计时錶是目前 咸米顿 錶款之中最值得买的一款！
原因就在那錶盘底下的那个经过改造的机芯！在市面上其他品牌中完全找不到的！

不过咧。。。本地价格比较高。
如果你有机会去到日本公干的话，千万不要错失良机！折算过来，大约1500！
上次我去了大阪没有买。。。回来极度后悔！

 

[reikizi]

not sure if i'm wols but support local anyway !

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/zelos-helmsman-watch

thank you

I even more wols .... just join massdrop for this

 

[reikizi]

saw this last week wanted to try it out but they did not have the bronze one

yeah .. bronze better ,, but for me .. no fish prawn oso good

 

[Henabi]

。。。有些Aqua Tera味道的日本錶，该属Kentex了！
http://www.kentexwatch.com/espy

This is like Aqua terra plus Clifton (baume mercier)

And I just saw it's movement

Jpn automatic movement 3 hands
28800 High Beat Vibrations (24 Jewels)
42 Hours Power Reserve

 

[Henabi]

You are concern with soprod accuracy? U doubt the movement design (mod design from seiko 4L25 which powered many credor) or soprod QC or steinhart QC?

Iirc the accuracy is Soprod > ETA > Sellitas right?

 

[Ed.YEO]

我的看法是，SOPROD胜的地方不是在准确度上。任何机芯只要调整够好，准确度一定能够达到某个偏差水准。所以任何机芯，只要修錶师傅细心的做好重要点的润滑，加上调整，都能达到准确度的范围。

SOPROD是胜在其纤细的厚度。如果以厚度比较，2892，SW300，A10不分高下。
但是以目前的情形来看识得机芯的人，多数会选择289x机芯，因为能够包容不同复杂功能设计嘛。。。而且部件又容易找喔，又可互相对换。
SOPROD普及率还在攀升中，所以部件方面就显得不是那么容易找到。
SW300至到目前为止，我们还没“普及化”的看见犹如289x那么多衍生复杂功能。。。

 

[Ed.YEO]

And I just saw it's movement

Jpn automatic movement 3 hands
28800 High Beat Vibrations (24 Jewels)
42 Hours Power Reserve

Hmmm..... 9015, Orient Star?

 

[confusedboi]

Why not just change to one x 6?

Haha don't want to waste the existing watch box. Smaller watch box bought can be used for travelling purposes ( the one on top)

 

[Cursor]

You are concern with soprod accuracy? U doubt the movement design (mod design from seiko 4L25 which powered many credor) or soprod QC or steinhart QC?

As this is the first time I am getting a watch with Soprod A10-2 movement, it really surprised me on it accuracy as compare with the ETA movement on my Tissot Visodate. Kudos to Steinhart for using this excellent movement

 

[Henabi]

Hmmm..... 9015, Orient Star?

according to various watch review website about Kentex, the company also do OEM movement manufacturing.

any possibility this movt to be similar to seiko's High-beat?

 

[Henabi]

As this is the first time I am getting a watch with Soprod A10-2 movement, it really surprised me on it accuracy as compare with the ETA movement on my Tissot Visodate. Kudos to Steinhart for using this excellent movement

in fact, with SWATCH refusing to provide ETA movts to non-SWATCH group companies, more and more companies will turn to these companies. and slowly more and more people will realise that there are better and higher quality movts than ETA

And in fact, according to discussions in other watch forums, SWATCH used to employ Soprod and Sellita to make movts for ETA.

some impressive Soprod movts and calibres:

STOWA ANTEA 365 new movement Soprod A10

 

[xuan87]

Since we're talking about Saprod movements, here's a lovely view of my OT500's backside:

And also, I finally found the titanium strap to be slightly too heavy too, but I didn't want to switch back to the rubber strap, so here it is on a NATO strap!