Thinning Hair problem

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BJ101 <---If their methods work they would have patent and copyright and sell it "Over The Counter" liao...
They are just money suckers trying to leech off your money selling you their thousand dollar bundle products...

Like Beauty Parlour...
If it works people like our "Mark Lee" on tv would have ultra smooth skin already and people won't need to go for plastic surgery anymore...

If BJ101 works Teo Wen Long won't be balding so badly anymore and will be full of hair...

Most of these so called centre are using "placebo effect"
And tryng to con your money with their thousand dollar packages...

isn't it weird?? the shows in TV owas show ppl having a full head of hair after their treatment
 

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ok.. do explain.. i'm interested in learning as well..
too much sebum production might cause indirect effect of infection, inflamation and intrusion which might make hairloss worst.

as mention before, there are no real evident that clogging of pore does cause hairloss although this is an popular theory. it all base on people with hairloss tend to have oily scalp therefore clogging of pore is a cause. also, this is a common explanation by people trying to sell hairloss product design to cleanse your scalp.
 

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isn't it weird?? the shows in TV owas show ppl having a full head of hair after their treatment

My guess is their treatment is scalp treatment, treating hair loss problem due to bad or oily scalp. The reason why there's r so many people who undergo those treatments and not have any result probably tells you they don't tackle the problem cause by DHT. The ones we saw on TV are probably the few lucky ones who just have scalp problem.
This is just my speculation, don't quote me on this.
 

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isn't it weird?? the shows in TV owas show ppl having a full head of hair after their treatment

Photoshop or Wig...

I can simply get a normal guy and take a picture of him and then give him a hair cut to make him look balding and take another picture...

And when his hair grows back here is your before and after picture...

If their method works doctors will be using them and the stuff they use would be sold like over the counter drugs and they would monopolize the market...

Which do you think would be more profitable...?
Sell it over the counter worldwide or setup small places for treatment...?
 

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I had done a lot of research and tested a lot of methods to curb my hair loss. Currently hair is still thinning, and I can say after evaluation that most do not work.

1) BJ101 - went for a year. Every few mths they will do a scan on your head and tell you new baby hairs are forming. However I instead feel that its my hair thinning out, not new hairs coming out. There wasn't much noticeable improvement besides eliminating the problem of oily scalp. I feel this treatment will work if your hair loss is due to oily scalp or demodites (hair mites).

2) Minoxidil/Rogaine - Very messy to apply. You have to apply it diligently every morning and night. It gave me intense headaches and I stopped after a month. Hair fell out faster after that, which is a known side effect. My recommendation is not to try this at all.

3) Naturals - I followed the supplement regimen from ImmortalHair strictly for about 3/4's of a year. It didn't really help to stave off hair loss, but it sure as hell made me healthier.

4) Propecia - Was on and off on fin for a number of years. There's a reason I keep coming back to it, and that is because it works. This time I swear not to go off it again. The side effects I had were decreased libido and pain in the testicles after a few mths, due to increase in testosterone because of reduced DHT.

I feel that a combination of propecia and naturals (to combat any side effects) will work best, which is currently what I'm doing now.

Have fun!
 

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2) Minoxidil/Rogaine - Very messy to apply. You have to apply it diligently every morning and night. It gave me intense headaches and I stopped after a month. Hair fell out faster after that, which is a known side effect. My recommendation is not to try this at all.


Though i have read many good cases in improving hair loss under topical minox, i'm still pretty hesitant about jumping into minox due to the sides.

Hope u r doing alright now, all the best.
 

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The progress pics that i promised. This is before i took fin about a month ago.


This is taken on the 20th, two days ago.


In comparison, the new pics may look to have improvement. But i think is just my hair getting longer, cos i still feel my hair at the vertex to be thinner than than rest. But fin has certainly help in reducing hair drop, period. Keeping my fingers cross, hopefully fin can get into it full effect soon, I really really miss the days when i style my hair with gel:sad:
What do u guys think?
 

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The progress pics that i promised. This is before i took fin about a month ago.


This is taken on the 20th, two days ago.


In comparison, the new pics may look to have improvement. But i think is just my hair getting longer, cos i still feel my hair at the vertex to be thinner than than rest. But fin has certainly help in reducing hair drop, period. Keeping my fingers cross, hopefully fin can get into it full effect soon, I really really miss the days when i style my hair with gel:sad:
What do u guys think?

Is this your first time taking propecia? From what I've read, fin causes an initial shed about 4-6 weeks into the treatment. Basically it means that its working, and the shed will stop about 3-6 mths after starting the treatment.

Yes minox does work, but if you decide to go for it, you have to stick with it for life. If not, its best not to start at all.

Does your scalp itch? You might want to try this shampoo called Nizoral. Its been shown to reduce hair loss as well. I'm currently using it.
 

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Is this your first time taking propecia? From what I've read, fin causes an initial shed about 4-6 weeks into the treatment. Basically it means that its working, and the shed will stop about 3-6 mths after starting the treatment.

Yes minox does work, but if you decide to go for it, you have to stick with it for life. If not, its best not to start at all.

Does your scalp itch? You might want to try this shampoo called Nizoral. Its been shown to reduce hair loss as well. I'm currently using it.

Ya i read some experienced initial hair shed, some don't. I was thinking maybe the shed comes from minox, not fin, as initial shedding is known in minox treatment. This is what i gather after reading here n there so far, i might be wrong. Gladly i'm not suffering much from any initial shedding, yet.

Ya minox forever, it sux:s27:

The itch has reduced after i started my regime, which is fin and nizoral :)
 

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JimmyHand, if your itch reduced, very good news already, means the influence on DHT on follicles is reducing.
I just saw the progress pics. Power la, good responder
 

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jimmyhand, i think u r responsing to fin quite well. there is really a difference just almost 1 month of usage.

mine is stil shedding after 1 month plus..
 

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2) Minoxidil/Rogaine - Very messy to apply. You have to apply it diligently every morning and night. It gave me intense headaches and I stopped after a month. Hair fell out faster after that, which is a known side effect. My recommendation is not to try this at all.

4) Propecia - Was on and off on fin for a number of years. There's a reason I keep coming back to it, and that is because it works. This time I swear not to go off it again. The side effects I had were decreased libido and pain in the testicles after a few mths, due to increase in testosterone because of reduced DHT.

i wouldnt want to start topical minoxidil due to my sensitive scalp and when i try for 2 days last month, i feel my heart beating faster? i wonder why when i take oral minoxidil, i don't feel any side-effect like topical minoxidil.

i shedding slightly more perhaps due to oral minoxidil and not fin because i guessing that new hair has started growing, pushing out the current hair due to minoxidil effect.

just to share and ask, new frontal hair has continued growing,and the newly grown hair are slightly further than my current frontal hairline, about at least 1cm away. the hair are not fine type and look like my other hair. this cause me to wonder, is it some dormant hair follicles..

anyway i know that oral minoxidil is still not recommended at all, but i willing to take risk of side-effect due to desperation, so don't quote me on that alright
 

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Anyone can tell me where can i get proscar online? I didnt want to go to the doc for proscar as i doubt she will prescribe me with it since it a med used for prostrate cancer. I do have the prescription for propecia thou.. but its freaking ex..
 

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To Noinimod n Adrtech, thank you for the encouragement. You guys keep the faith too.


Just wanna share my story with the bros here. At the start of the year when i finally realized that i was thinning, my world collapsed, literally. 25yrs old, not yet into my prime, no spouse, and i am balding??! At first i couldn't accept it, i was telling myself there could be other reason for the thinning, not due to MPB. In this time of uncertainty, I was under a lot of stress. I'm not sure how much the stress has accelerate my hair loss, but for certain my controlled acne suffered breakout. Not to mention the stress of being under strong white light, stress of going down the escalator, stress of walking in front of your friends. I suddenly become very conscious of people looking at the "hole". After researching here n there, seeing this and that doctor, i finally resigned to the fate that it is mpb, and that's when i made up my mind to take fin.

Now i have keep the stress under check, mainly becos i know what i am dealing with and pretty much resigned that i can't style my hair anymore. But i still give myself sh*tty look every time i check my condition in the mirror, still a little wary of what people think of my hair. That's life, we can't live with/without stress. And i would be cynical if i advise those going thru the initial stage not to have stress. Keep it in check, life gets better, at least for me.

I have to write all this down now cos i predict down the road when i got accustomed to all this, i would have forgotten what i went thru initially. And i emphasis this is in no way mocking or being sarcastic to those who have more severe case than me. Lastly i hope every bro's cloud has a silver lining. Good luck everyone.;)
 

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To Noinimod n Adrtech, thank you for the encouragement. You guys keep the faith too.


Just wanna share my story with the bros here. At the start of the year when i finally realized that i was thinning, my world collapsed, literally. 25yrs old, not yet into my prime, no spouse, and i am balding??! At first i couldn't accept it, i was telling myself there could be other reason for the thinning, not due to MPB. In this time of uncertainty, I was under a lot of stress. I'm not sure how much the stress has accelerate my hair loss, but for certain my controlled acne suffered breakout. Not to mention the stress of being under strong white light, stress of going down the escalator, stress of walking in front of your friends. I suddenly become very conscious of people looking at the "hole". After researching here n there, seeing this and that doctor, i finally resigned to the fate that it is mpb, and that's when i made up my mind to take fin.

Now i have keep the stress under check, mainly becos i know what i am dealing with and pretty much resigned that i can't style my hair anymore. But i still give myself sh*tty look every time i check my condition in the mirror, still a little wary of what people think of my hair. That's life, we can't live with/without stress. And i would be cynical if i advise those going thru the initial stage not to have stress. Keep it in check, life gets better, at least for me.

I have to write all this down now cos i predict down the road when i got accustomed to all this, i would have forgotten what i went thru initially. And i emphasis this is in no way mocking or being sarcastic to those who have more severe case than me. Lastly i hope every bro's cloud has a silver lining. Good luck everyone.;)

You might want to try changing your diet as well.

1) Cut out sugary and starchy foods to about 30% of your overall diet. This includes white bread, white rice, soft drinks, pasta, macaroni. You can take brown rice and wholemeal breads still. The reasoning behind this is that high sugar foods give you an insulin spike, which besides causing diabetes in the long run, is also detrimental to hair health. Why? Because insulin sensitivity decreases over time if you keep spiking it. Its better to take in slow release foods. It makes you feel fuller and u eat less too.

2) get into the habit of reading the ingredient labels when you purchase stuff for consumption.

3) Drink green tea. Lots of it. This does not include fermented tea like oolong, or those canned green tea which contains sugar. Japanese sencha or chinese longjing is green tea. Dunno why but unflavored green tea you can find in 7-11 all over taiwan, but you can only get sugared ones here.

4) Get into habit of exercising. It builds up testosterone and reduces progesterone. Or something like that.

5) you can start by taking cod liver oil after a meal every day. the good fats from cod liver oil work as a transport medium for the proteins to get into your hair follicle cells. Or something like that. Im no doctor its just my general understanding.

Even if it doesnt help your hair loss, it can sure help your health. Better to be a bald, healthy and fit man than a sickly one with a full head of hair, dont you think? And its sexy to be bald and fit, like vin diesel.
 
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