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Too early to say that it will happen. Earlier this year the departing Chinese ambassador requested for reciprocal visa-free entry for Chinese in exchange for resuming our 15-day visa-free access to China. Nothing happened of her request, but Singaporeans received the 15-day visa-free access. Visa-free entry for Chinese is unprecedented, so SG better consider this thoroughly.
Unlike other countries, Singapore would not make announcement without proper assessment of the deal. Furthermore, the article also reported an envisaged implementation period.
 

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Unlike other countries, Singapore would not make announcement without proper assessment of the deal. Furthermore, the article also reported an envisaged implementation period.
True, but are we really ready?
Nevertheless, Chinese tourists will have a field day, with unprecedented 30 days visa-free travel for SG-MY-TH.
It has been a dismal Visit Thailand Year 2023 and it is uncertain if they will get a piece of the cake at all in 2024.
 

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I suppose we refers to ordinary citizens which is really broad depending on which profile we are talking about. Since we are expecting genuine and non-genuine travellers, it could bring in more social, crime and other issues. I would think DPM and his team would have assessed the pros and cons before taking up the deal from the upgraded free trade agreement. We can't possibly cherry pick and choose only the good ones while leaving the bad ones to the party we are signing the agreement with. :)

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...=internal_sharetool_androidphone_07122023_cna
 

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easier to have a Visa sticker tbh. less questions

Countless hotels, immigration officer, police checkpoints will hunt for it. They always look upset when they cant find it and you tell them "免签"
 

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easier to have a Visa sticker tbh. less questions

Countless hotels, immigration officer, police checkpoints will hunt for it. They always look upset when they cant find it and you tell them "免签"
No such problem for me. You only need to show the immigration entry date chop , that is why I always put a paper clip on the page.
You can also take a photo of the visa free news from official site like the SG China embassy and keep in on your phone to show them.
 

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I suppose we refers to ordinary citizens which is really broad depending on which profile we are talking about. Since we are expecting genuine and non-genuine travellers, it could bring in more social, crime and other issues. I would think DPM and his team would have assessed the pros and cons before taking up the deal from the upgraded free trade agreement. We can't possibly cherry pick and choose only the good ones while leaving the bad ones to the party we are signing the agreement with. :)

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...=internal_sharetool_androidphone_07122023_cna
I am surprised to read that the local tourism industry is only expecting a 10% increase from Chinese tourists and the numbers are not going to reach pre-Covid levels soon even with the visa-free arrangement.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...xemption-revenge-travel-tour-agencies-3974921
 

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I am surprised to read that the local tourism industry is only expecting a 10% increase from Chinese tourists and the numbers are not going to reach pre-Covid levels soon even with the visa-free arrangement.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...xemption-revenge-travel-tour-agencies-3974921
Their economic data has been contracting for many months this year. Many chinese tourists are taking the 穷游 option, e.g. Sleeping and showering at HK airport, camping instead of staying at hotel. I am more worried about the non genuine travellers. 😅
 

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Their economic data has been contracting for many months this year. Many chinese tourists are taking the 穷游 option, e.g. Sleeping and showering at HK airport, camping instead of staying at hotel. I am more worried about the non genuine travellers. 😅
Understand what you mean. From my observation, this year has seen a lot less of their corporate incentive tour groups (新马泰) and student trips in town. Independent couple, friend and family groups don't account for so much of the volume. There should be a lot of downgraders (those who could previously afford AU/NZ/EU) who shall still come?
 

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Understand what you mean. From my observation, this year has seen a lot less of their corporate incentive tour groups (新马泰) and student trips in town. Independent couple, friend and family groups don't account for so much of the volume. There should be a lot of downgraders (those who could previously afford AU/NZ/EU) who shall still come?
I won't know. 😅
 

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Don't need tour operator to arrange for 30 day.

When you reach Hainan, Customs will ask you 15-day or 30-day.

The stamp they give doesn't show 15 or 30 days visa, so need to self-remember, but already logged in their system

This was what happened to me back in August.
Yeah, before the 30 day visa free announcement.
It was 15 days where had to fill particulars for normal visa free stay, 30 days without requiring particulars at Hainan.
Was given a piece of blue card that states the conditions of the 30 days visa free stay that is restricted to Hainan only.

Appreciate the info and sharing!
 

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Very good then.
Next thing to try is to take the 30-day stamp and after 15 days, fly onward to the mainland and finally try to fly out of China. :p
pls dont do that, They explicitly remind those who opt for 30-days Hainan visa free cannot travel to Mainland with it.
 

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Understand what you mean. From my observation, this year has seen a lot less of their corporate incentive tour groups (新马泰) and student trips in town. Independent couple, friend and family groups don't account for so much of the volume. There should be a lot of downgraders (those who could previously afford AU/NZ/EU) who shall still come?

For the PRC, SEA is now known for Myanmar kidnapping and kidney harvesting (噶腰子) rumor in Thailand. A recent top-hit movie about a Myanmar scamming syndicate also makes the situation worse.

For now, they simply feel too insecure to visit SEA,
 

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For the PRC, SEA is now known for Myanmar kidnapping and kidney harvesting (噶腰子) rumor in Thailand. A recent top-hit movie about a Myanmar scamming syndicate also makes the situation worse.

For now, they simply feel too insecure to visit SEA,
ironic, considering many SEA spots such as Sihanoukville used to be the playground of Chinese nationals...
 

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IMHO, they probably consider Singapore and Malaysia as differentiated from Thailand, Cambodia and Myanmar.
 

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more atb will take advantage of 30days visa to come here to work and then Visa run to jb and return to sg.
so expect to see more cases eg like Han Fei Zi
 
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